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Post by Aggie Monster on Dec 13, 2006 10:40:18 GMT -5
That was not Fobb's fault at all, but I think he will have to share the blame if it continues. Make workouts and training mandatory or at least seem mandatory. Have coaches do surprise visits to workouts, you got some paperwork to do....Do it in the weight room. You got to stay on these boys to get them where they need to be. Most people dont have self driven workouts, especially D1AA kids.
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Post by jaffejoffa on Dec 13, 2006 11:18:51 GMT -5
I disagree with it not being the "programs" fault. If you are an 18-22 yr old kid, who has to manditorily(is that a word?) lift weights and run 5 times a week in a decent program headed by professionals, then you really have no choice but to see an increase in strength, size and speed. These kids dont have an option to work out, its required, and manditory, just like at any other D-1 or D1aa school in the nation. We have failed our athletes by failing to provide the proper strength professionals that know what the hell they are doing and by not having a proper supplement program and dining table. You cant be a d1 athlete, train everyday and then go and feed your body burgers and fries from the cafe...Hamptons weight room pales in comparison to ours, but they have a great strength coach, have their kids on protein/supplements and have them eating right and their players look like bodybuilders compared to ours.....We've gotta get some organization going on in Aggieland and I didnt see anything close to that this season or from Fobbs staff...Just my 2 cents
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Post by 4XLAGGIE on Dec 13, 2006 11:49:46 GMT -5
That was not Fobb's fault at all, but I think he will have to share the blame if it continues. Make workouts and training mandatory or at least seem mandatory. Have coaches do surprise visits to workouts, you got some paperwork to do....Do it in the weight room. You got to stay on these boys to get them where they need to be. Most people dont have self driven workouts, especially D1AA kids. The workouts are mandatory, just like other institutions, but you cannot monitor them 24 hours a day to see what they are eating and things like that. You have to have some drive inside, the will to want to get things done. When the coaches want it for the player more than the player wants it for themselves, then you have a real problem. Those are not the players I would want in my program. Just my 2 cents...
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Post by Maxell on Dec 13, 2006 12:13:49 GMT -5
That was not Fobb's fault at all, but I think he will have to share the blame if it continues. Make workouts and training mandatory or at least seem mandatory. Have coaches do surprise visits to workouts, you got some paperwork to do....Do it in the weight room. You got to stay on these boys to get them where they need to be. Most people dont have self driven workouts, especially D1AA kids. The workouts are mandatory, just like other institutions, but you cannot monitor them 24 hours a day to see what they are eating and things like that. You have to have some drive inside, the will to want to get things done. When the coaches want it for the player more than the player wants it for themselves, then you have a real problem. Those are not the players I would want in my program. Just my 2 cents... You're making my point. If the kids don't work out and eat right, they shouldn't be on the team. But it's Fobbs' job to motivate them to want to do it and have a nutrition and conditioning program for them to plug into. They are still kids and they need "motivation". Fobbs has to create an environment that energizes kids. For example, if you walk into the weight room at the Air Force Academy you just feel like you need to work out, even in your street clothes. It's crazy. There's music playing, slogans on the wall, championship banners, etc. (I know we have some stuff,too) But all of that is Fobbs' job. If he can't motivate, then he needs different kids that respond to his motivation techniques. Most of the 300 lb guys we have are short(6'3" or under) and should be playing at closer to 280 lbs. IF they are still on the team and have not gotten into better condition, then it IS Fobbs' fault because if they are not in condition their scholarships should be taken away IMO.
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Post by aggiejazz on Dec 13, 2006 12:45:17 GMT -5
Appalachian State football team below:
OFFENSE
LEFT TACKLE 61 MARIO ACITELLI (6-2, 255, Fr.) 51 Kyle Knox (6-3, 270, Sr.) LEFT GUARD 76 KERRY BROWN (6-6, 300, Jr.) 60 Brad Coley (6-4, 270, So.) CENTER 66 SCOTT SUTTLE (6-0, 260, Jr.) 52 J.T. Holleman (6-0, 250, Sr.) RIGHT GUARD 70 JEREMY ROBERTSON (6-3, 295, Sr.) 67 John Holt (6-2, 260, Jr.) RIGHT TACKLE 62 MATT ISENHOUR (6-1, 275, Sr.) 72 Jonathan Bieschke (6-5, 285, So.) TIGHT END 80 DANIEL BETTIS (6-3, 245, Sr.) 88 Nic Cardwell (6-1, 225, Jr.) WIDE RECEIVER 2 DEXTER JACKSON (5-10, 170, Jr.) 3 Hans Batichon (6-0, 165, Jr.) WIDE RECEIVER 12 T.J. COURMAN (5-10, 190, So.) 7 James Hill (6-0, 160, So.) WIDE RECEIVER 9 WILLIAM MAYFIELD (6-2, 220, Sr.) 82 Josh Johnson (6-3, 185, Fr.) QUARTERBACK 14 ARMANTI EDWARDS (6-0, 165, Fr.) 15 Trey Elder (6-1, 190, Jr.) RUNNING BACK 28 KEVIN RICHARDSON (5-9, 190, Jr.) 30 Devon Moore (5-9, 190, Fr.)
PROJECTED TWO-DEEP DEFENSE
LEFT END 44 MARQUES MURRELL (6-2, 245, Sr.) 46 Tony Robertson (6-2, 210, Fr.) LEFT TACKLE 95 OMARR BYROM (6-2, 255, Sr.) 54 Tommy Sofield (6-1, 250, Sr.) RIGHT TACKLE 90 DANIEL ORLEBAR (6-3, 295, Sr.) 98 Anthony Williams (6-1, 272, Fr.) RIGHT END 96 GARY THARRINGTON (6-1, 255, Fr.) 58 Daniel Finnerty (6-2, 250, Fr.) WEAKSIDE LINEBACKER 31 PIERRE BANKS (6-0, 210, So.) 49 Chris Johnson (5-10, 220, So.) MIDDLE LINEBACKER 40 JACQUE ROMAN (6-1, 240, Fr.) or 27 CAM SPEER (6-0, 215, Jr.) 56 Ellis McDowell (5-9, 200, Fr.) BANDIT 38 MONTE SMITH (6-0, 215, Sr.) 13 Mike King (6-1, 212, Sr.) NICKEL 8 JEREMY WIGGINS (5-9, 190, Sr.) 36 Titus Howard (5-11, 193, Jr.) SAFETY 47 COREY LYNCH (6-0, 205, Jr.) 29 Seth Breitenstein (5-10, 175, So.) LEFT CORNERBACK 18 JUSTIN WOAZEAH (5-10, 175, Jr.) 5 Cortez Gilbert (5-11, 175, Fr.) RIGHT CORNERBACK 6 JEROME TOUCHSTONE (5-7, 155, Jr.) 22 Leonard Love (5-10, 180, So.) SPECIALISTS PLACE KICKER 91 JULIAN RAUCH (5-11, 215, Jr.) 26 Jason Vitaris (5-11, 165, Fr.) PUNTER 91 JULIAN RAUCH (5-11, 215, Jr.) 99 Adam Kassouf (5-9, 170, Fr.) PUNT RETURNER 2 DEXTER JACKSON (5-10, 170, Jr.) 8 Jeremy Wiggins (5-9, 190, Sr.) KICK RETURNER 7 JAMES HILL (6-0, 160, So.) 5 Cortez Gilbert (5-11, 175, Fr.) LONG SNAPPER 59 RUSSELL WILSON (5-11, 230, Jr.) HOLDER 10 HUNTER STEWART (6-0, 185, Fr.)
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Post by Maxell on Dec 13, 2006 13:17:53 GMT -5
As you can see, they are not a BIG team at all.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Dec 13, 2006 14:45:08 GMT -5
I'm with Maxwell on this one. He has got to motivate. That's what coaches are suppose to do. He gets $160,000 and he has help. Make sure those boys are doing their workouts. It's not that hard, well maybe it is. But so is everyone elses job. You go to work and do what you are suppose to do. Now, he may do just that. We just have to wait and see. He didn't have that opportunity to show us that side of his skills yet. If whats on the field next year is weak then he didn't get it done.
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Post by DOOMS on Dec 14, 2006 8:19:13 GMT -5
Man we really get off on a tangent sometimes...
The fact that most lower-division championship level teams have smaller linemen is something I've been aware of for 20 years having grown up in Georgia and watching Georgia Southern win with small, athletic, disciplined and fundamentally sound linemen.
As far as expecting today's spoiled teens to do anything without being motivated constantly, good luck finding some.
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Post by Maxell on Dec 14, 2006 11:20:29 GMT -5
What tangent? Effective offensive linemen is what we need more than a QB coach right now.
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Post by DOOMS on Dec 14, 2006 11:28:13 GMT -5
I was just tripping out because I often look to the top of the screen to see what the original topic was when I respond to make sure I respond to the correct topic. When I looked at this one it threw me off for damn near a minute.
But yeah, qb coach is at the very bottom of my list. It's unfortunate that there are soooo many defensive minds out there that have become available over the last few weeks and we haven't found a place for any of them. My thoughts would be to shore up the defense first and foremost.
That being said part of shoring up the defense involves controlling the ball on offense.
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Post by Maxell on Dec 14, 2006 11:31:47 GMT -5
When I looked at this one it threw me off for damn near a minute. LOL!
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Post by blackcaesar2k5 on Dec 17, 2006 2:10:32 GMT -5
I believe Coach Fobbs need to hired former Southern Jaguars Offensive Coordinator David Oliver as his quarterback's coach.. He did wonderful with Jags offense back in 2003 and 2004...
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Post by Bornthrilla on Dec 17, 2006 9:42:35 GMT -5
Oliver also did an excellent job helping Richard improve at quarterback. He might be a good fit for us.
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Post by DECKS on Dec 17, 2006 15:39:42 GMT -5
That was not Fobb's fault at all, but I think he will have to share the blame if it continues. Make workouts and training mandatory or at least seem mandatory. Have coaches do surprise visits to workouts, you got some paperwork to do....Do it in the weight room. You got to stay on these boys to get them where they need to be. Most people dont have self driven workouts, especially D1AA kids. The workouts are mandatory, just like other institutions, but you cannot monitor them 24 hours a day to see what they are eating and things like that. You have to have some drive inside, the will to want to get things done. When the coaches want it for the player more than the player wants it for themselves, then you have a real problem. Those are not the players I would want in my program. Just my 2 cents... The kid must want it for himself but the coach sometimes have to use positive and negative reinforcement to control behavior. When we allow a kid to balloon up to 50 lbs over ideal playing weight and he's still allowed to play what kind of message does that send?
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Post by truthseeker on Dec 17, 2006 17:47:16 GMT -5
Yes we do need a proven qb coach---- shoring up the def. & off. lines is just as critical! But the qb coach has to be someone who can teach the kids how to find the secondary targets---- I've been to too many games where our qb locks in on 1 receiver and throws into double & triple coverage when others are wide open. Studying film doesn't help because he did the same thing each week!!! Knowing how to keep the chains moving is something we lack at the qb position!!!
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