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Nov 29, 2006 15:57:49 GMT -5
Post by truthseeker on Nov 29, 2006 15:57:49 GMT -5
I ask again who in there right minds would give an unproven coach a salary that you can't afford to give in the first place, and then ask everyone to bless they're decision. The powers that be have made a mockery out of everyone who loves A&T, and I assume that includes everyone on Bluedeath who just want to know what the hell is going on and to see what solutions can be provided to the problem! But the powers that be will listen to outsiders who haven't got a clue about A&T's situation, but who will give advice on how to handle matters. The people they should be listening to are the coaches themselves, not some wannabe bigshot. But listening to ideas the coaches may have makes to much sense---- and we all know, if it makes sense A&T ain't gonna do it-----but then again how can you look a coach in the eye knwowing you are trying to fire them because you can't do your job by getting the coaches the resources they need to be sucessful. I mean when has anyone seen an administator fire themselves for incompetency---- not when you have a coach to use as a scapegoat!! Again---- what a waste of power
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Nov 29, 2006 16:15:50 GMT -5
Post by Aggie Monster on Nov 29, 2006 16:15:50 GMT -5
First I would like to welcome all these new guys. I was just as hostile when I first found this board too. I was like "Finally!, a place to talk about MY school and not some ACC or Big Ten school that I give 2 shits about".
Anyway. Just wanted to say welcome and calm down a little. Yall are hostile man. We all on the same side. A garbage season will do this to people. Lets see what Fobbs and this new S&C coach do and we can be back in the stands laughing and having fun again soon enough. To comment on a previous post:
That's what bosses do. You dont let someone know you are going to fire them. What job does that? Your a$$ is just walked out. Coaching aint no different. Some people may warn you, but not most.
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Nov 29, 2006 17:45:34 GMT -5
Post by truthseeker on Nov 29, 2006 17:45:34 GMT -5
To Monster: It's one thing to fire someone for being incompetent, it's uethical to fire someone when it's the person doing the firing who's incompetent. Officials at "T" have been blaming coaches for yrs for not winning when they themselves have created a system that is designed for coaches to fail. Example, when baseball won the title year before last Renick could not figure out how---- he was in disbelief. When a coach . wins at "T" it's not because of administration's help , it's inspite of---- why---- because the politics at "T" are deadly! The key for a coach to keep winning is to have administration's support---- the problem is we have a lame duck administration!!! Read my post carefully, I think .you got the wrong meaning out of it. Our AD killed a promising mens tennis program. Those kids were representing dispite the lack of resources!! The kids along with the coach were recruiting kids themselves!! The coach, who did a hella've job with the program, going from last in the MEAC to fourth---- And on top of it all, was spending his own money to boot---- and what thanks did he get ? Well he and the mens tennis program got the boot------ Again---- what a waste of power----
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Nov 30, 2006 7:48:35 GMT -5
Post by DOOMS on Nov 30, 2006 7:48:35 GMT -5
Damn, take one day off from the board and I miss all this?!?
I call it "the Howard paradigm." The school barely invests money in athletics while making the buildings a little prettier. Then make announcements as to coach's salary (if it's high) or experience or whatever you can say about the coach to make him look like Vince Lombardi. Then they leave the coaches to their own designs as far as getting money to build a winner. When the coach is unable to win you fire him and get a new guy. The whole time the majority of the alums only blame the coach 'cause they didn't know better. Stir, and repeat ad nauseum. It seems to work especially well on black folks.
Reading this brought up a troubling spot for me. I can't in good conscience take a dime from what I give the English dept. to prop up the athletic department. I've never given a dime to the general fund. Every dollar I've given has gone to the English dept. and athletics, period (plus an ill-advised donation to band once).
It sounds like a fine idea to give half and half, but knowing the budgetary problems the English dept. has it's difficult for me to reconcile taking money out of their mouth to feed an athletic dept. that had zero part in getting me where I am and hasn't responded to a single communication I've sent since I sent one ripping them to shreds (with a check enclosed).
Help me reconcile this thang fellas.
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Nov 30, 2006 8:59:50 GMT -5
Post by Aggie Monster on Nov 30, 2006 8:59:50 GMT -5
Truthseeker, Dont get me wrong man. I wasn't saying it was right. I was saying that it happens and thats the way it works. Bosses NEVER blame themselves. "I think I hired the wrong guy, so I'm going to fire myself". That makes no sense. So I'm not disagreeing, I'm just saying you shouldn't expect anything else.
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Nov 30, 2006 11:04:14 GMT -5
Post by truthseeker on Nov 30, 2006 11:04:14 GMT -5
Dooms: I feel your pain brother----- there are a lot of good ideas on Bluedeath. The "HBCU WAY" has always been to underfund your programs and blame coaches for not building a winner. I never realized that when I was a student, you always thought everything was OK---- I never took into consideration the unfair conditions our coaches were subjected too. I had a chance to talk to Coach Corbett before he hungem up and what he said then is coming to pass now. I talked to Coach Hayes in "99" and he pretty much echoed what Coach Corbett had said---- neither one painted a rosie picture. So I guess it's up to those of you on Bluedeath to really get to the bottom of the problem---- is money the only solution to our problem? Is it the people running the show? Are egoes getting in the way that clouds good judgement or do you have people on these committies who don't give a flip about athletics so you keep throwing good money after bad? Maybe it's a combination of all the questions above. If anyone from the athletic reads this here are a couple of suggestions.
1) Have a meeting with all your coaches and get ideas from them on how to improve the department. They may have some ideas that fits your budget. I mean as long as "Spaceman" had been operating track with no facilities and limited funds---- I'm quite sure he could teach our AD a few leasons, but not only our AD could learn but the BOT as well!!!
2) Next have a town-hall meeting with the BOT, admistrators, coaches and those who love AGGIE SPORTS and put ideas on a blackboard---lets see what problems can be solved right away and those that can't put them on the back burnner for another time. I'm sure with these collective minds under one roof alot could get accomplished. Then I think people would feel comfortable giving because they would actually know those dollars would effect positive change!!!
3) Address the coaches needs, they are the ones one the firing line!!!
4) JUST A THOUGHT!
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Nov 30, 2006 11:12:12 GMT -5
Post by truthseeker on Nov 30, 2006 11:12:12 GMT -5
MONSTER: I understand Brother, the main thing I was trying to point out was that our administration has let us down more so than any coach has---- and, they have failed the coaches too. Now mind you this my opinion, so you can take it for what it's worth.
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Nov 30, 2006 12:57:26 GMT -5
Post by Aggie Monster on Nov 30, 2006 12:57:26 GMT -5
I feel ya, We singing the same song
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