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Post by Brandmasta on Aug 9, 2010 11:14:38 GMT -5
It'll just have to be harsh then. I'll be more than happy to take back those words if they produce flawless shows that are creeping upon them. It seems to me that I'm the only one that realizes the brutal schedule the band has the first six weeks of the season. Maybe some of you should check it out...I'm sorry they had all summer to swim. Now ain't the time, that's just me. I guess I'm the only one that feels this way. You didnt have a pool party, but Im quite certain that you had a cookout followed by a freshman vs. upperclassmen football game just like we did. I guarantee that had NOTHING to do with 8 to 5 or intonation. I think its a great idea to bring the FAMILY together before the season starts, whether its over a burger or by the pool. The band is not just a collection of horn players, just like a song is not merely a collection of notes on a page. Work hard, play hard...these are the friendships that you will have for the rest of your life. By all means...let the kids have the pool party. They will have each other's backs on the field, in the stands, on campus, in the classroom, and in life. Speech over now
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Post by The Professor on Aug 9, 2010 11:52:55 GMT -5
Yeah...the other tubas were probably getting ready for the pool party. lol.................lol!!! Yo ohsixrain...you were right "alot" of upperclassmen did not return to the band. That has to deal with funding and folks trying to graduate. You have to make it that they wanna come back
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Post by Aggie One on Aug 9, 2010 13:10:21 GMT -5
Refer to my last post.
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Post by ohsixrain on Aug 9, 2010 13:33:19 GMT -5
Brandmasta...I get that, I really do. Nothing wrong with rewarding students for a job well done. But, nothing has been produced and we have major competition coming up. Now be honest...was your cookout at the end of bandcamp or in the middle??? You had to put the work in first then, the reward came that's all. But hell...I don't know, it's a new breed of students now-a-days. They just don't have the respect for their craft like they could or should. Yell at them loud enough and they quit and go home.
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Post by Bigboy on Aug 9, 2010 13:41:54 GMT -5
Just because the band had a pool party does not mean that they have not been working hard. It might mean that they have been doing so well that Dr. Ruff felt they needed a reward. I don't know why he did what he did concerning the party but I just past by the stadium and thoses kids were out there working hard in the heat of the day. I guess we will all know how hard they have worked when we witness their first performance (the old proverbial "the proof is in the pudding"). From what I have heard from them so far the "pudding" will be rather sweet!!
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Post by ohsixrain on Aug 9, 2010 13:56:24 GMT -5
Okay...I'll be the out-cast on this one. I really do hope they prove me wrong....it can be done. Maybe I'm one of the ones Allen Iverson was talking that day when he said..."they talking about practice, not a game, not the game...Practice!" AI was talking about me huh?
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Post by aggiebred09 on Aug 9, 2010 14:11:14 GMT -5
I hope all the band Alum on this site give as much money as they do lip service.... If everyone answered with their wallets as well as their opinions it would make a bigger difference than a pool party or a cookout.
But im pretty sure Alumni giving for the band is on an increase and this message is in vain. Right?
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Post by Bigboy on Aug 9, 2010 14:37:54 GMT -5
Ohsixrain, it only shows that you really care about the "Machine" and that you and all of us want to see them function like a well-oiled-machine. I don't think anyone has a problem with that. Aggie Pride!!!!!
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Post by blessedaggie84 on Aug 9, 2010 15:12:08 GMT -5
You are not the only one ohsixrain I agree with you.
Aggiebred09
If all the band alums on here did give back would the product on the field still be the same? If the band does a subpar job on Aug 28 or by the first game is that because of lack of money? Why should I as a band alum give to the current program? (and i want something more then money for better players)
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Post by ohsixrain on Aug 9, 2010 16:12:25 GMT -5
I'm simply stating that the band should be practicing instead of having a pool party. I'm not saying b/c they had the party that they are gonna suck but, they put themselves behind the eight ball considering what's ahead of them. But hell, if they can pull it off then cool. But now Aggiebred09 is going to draw a correlation between the band practicing and funding....go ahead, I'll wait for you! Go ahead! Help me understand. Or are you handicapping them with an excuse before the performance so they can "PRACTICE" saying it when people ask what happened to the band? No need to go down that road b/c that's always the convenient excuse.
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Post by Brandmasta on Aug 9, 2010 18:42:45 GMT -5
Brandmasta...I get that, I really do. Nothing wrong with rewarding students for a job well done. But, nothing has been produced and we have major competition coming up. Now be honest...was your cookout at the end of bandcamp or in the middle??? You had to put the work in first then, the reward came that's all. But hell...I don't know, it's a new breed of students now-a-days. They just don't have the respect for their craft like they could or should. Yell at them loud enough and they quit and go home. Our cookout was after band camp and several weeks of practice before our first performance. But actually, I said nothing about rewarding anything. Its about fostering a sense of brotherhood/sisterhood/comraderie that b-flat concert scales simply cant do. To build a total band, you have to have the mentality of being part of something bigger than oneself. As with the military, we recognize the importance of building the total force, not just honing our individual war fighting tasks. We have events that are purely for "unit cohesion". Does it help us more effectively work together to accomplish the mission? I say yes.
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Post by B&GMM 80 on Aug 9, 2010 21:45:08 GMT -5
Very well stated Brandmasta!
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Post by ohsixrain on Aug 10, 2010 8:00:29 GMT -5
Sure is Brandmasta...but, let me clarify. You mentioned millitary using such an action with the intent to create fellowship, team-building and comraderie and that point is well understood and taken. BUT...before you get to that point, I'm 99% sure the millitary has something called boot camp. And I'm willing to bet that one week into boot camp, your drill sargent didn't give you guys a party. If he did then I'll just lose the bet, but I seriously doubt it. Let me just say, I know the band is not the millitary but, the band does try to implement a process similar to millitary forces because, those processes have been proven through the years to be effective in properly training with an emphasis on discipline. Sure the band's process isn't as rigorous and in no way am I trying to compare our band to the millitary. But the whole point of mine is, there is a time and place for everything. You must put the work in first then party later. That's all.
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Post by Brandmasta on Aug 10, 2010 16:11:09 GMT -5
Boot camp is a totally different animal and I think it might be a stretch to compare it to band camp. We are sending these kids to Bowman-Gray and Bragg, not Baghdad and Balad! 2 things they have in common? Early mornings, and the word "camp".
Just so you know, just about every friday during pilot training the class got together at the officers club to have a beer or 2, throw darts, shoot pool, blow off steam, etc, even though we still had to put in study time over the weekend to get ready for the next week.
Now, is the band performance ready? Probably not. Were we performance ready at the end of band camp at the time we had our cookout? Hail naw! lol! Was your band ready? But you best beleive that we were ready to put a foot knee deep up in NCCU when the season started.
Preseason training doesnt begin and end with band camp. They still have work to do, but they will be ready. Lets not forget what happened last time the Machine showed up at a preseason competition in Charlotte. That was Dr Ruff's first season.
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Post by ohsixrain on Aug 10, 2010 20:27:33 GMT -5
Again, I'm not comparing band camp to any millitary boot camp. But, I do think our band should be preparing to go to war...not in the literal and physical sense of the word but, mentally. I think that's where we fall short. All I know, A&T rolling out on a 5th quarter was unheard of now...that's all they do. WSSU was straight cranking on us in the 5th and we rolled. And the band was satisfied with the decision to roll out. Thank God Cold Steel saved a little face. Man you that's ridiculous....Winston??? That's why people initially started quitting the band in Dr. Ruff's early years. You had folk in the band that marched for Dr. Hodge and wanted to go to war in a 5th, but Dr. Ruff wanted to roll out with the opposing band blowing on them. Plain and simple A&T needs to get it's SWAG back!!!!! All this letting Winston and Central blow while we leave and go and eat is for the birds. ANYBODY WIT ME?? DADLAMMIT!!!!
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