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Post by aggielove on Oct 8, 2009 16:08:13 GMT -5
I agree with a lot of what has been said by Thrilla and Blues up on here. I listen to all types of music, and unless they plan on bringing in the Jonas Bros, Miley Cyrus and some other Disney acts, there aren't any Adult acts, non-Gospel, that would fall into the universities "moral standards." Every adult act contains some reference to sex/love-making, whether it be implicit or explicit (if you can find one, please let me know). Every hip-hop artist (non-gospe) curses in their songs, usues the B or N word. The majority of the top artists come from or write about stories they heard from the streets and hustling/dope dealing. I think they had a problem because this homecoming concert blows a$$ and having Gucci Mane as a headliner is not a good business move. I could be wrong, but I don't think he has that kinda pull to headline this concert and get a sellout or near sellout. I can't stand his music, because I think it sucks, not because I think it falls beneath some moral/ethical standards befitting our instituition. A&T ain't the Bible college or you wouldn't have all them youn women walking round on campus seeded up (or at least they were back when I was in school). I spent enough time up in Morrison, Holt, and Barbee that they could have charged me rent while I was on campus.
Talk about morals!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2009 19:34:08 GMT -5
Congratulations, dude. You are the one who opened Pandora's box. I said that in Facebook like 2 weeks ago LOL. But thrilla you are right. This kinda effectively ends the A&T Homecoming Concert as we know it. It's kinda sad too. This was one of the reasons why I said our homecoming was better than Howard's. Also, wouldn't this mean we would stop doing our Comedy Shows and Fashion Shows during Homecoming week because of the graphic language & sexual content? We should if we aren't going to have a Homecoming Concert. If our homecomings become worst than WSSU's, I am blaming Syene!!! Man they should have voted for the Alpha instead.
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Post by aggie2008 on Oct 8, 2009 20:20:10 GMT -5
for those that dont know, SGA was against the move to remove A&T's name from the concert. Administration was trying to prevent half of the artists from performing and basically shutting the concert half-way down. Thanks to SGA and signed contracts, they will still be performing. For once, I thought A&T had found the correct chancellor. This is one move that i do not agree with and will have a BIG impact on downgrading "The Greatest Homecoming on Earth"
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 8, 2009 21:24:34 GMT -5
History will now show that Harold Martin's first major action as chancellor of A&T was not to announce a new plan to increase enrollment or improve the graduation rate or to unveil some new doctoral program, but rather to cancel the student homecoming concert.
Huh?
With all the major issues concerning this university right now, it sure seems like he is being consumed by distractions.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 8, 2009 21:32:57 GMT -5
And your boy Syene Jasmin will surely go down as the worst SGA president in A&T history.
As SGA president all you really have to do is two things: walk around the track waving your hands during the homecoming football game .... and put together the homecoming concert. That's really about it. You don't have any other real power.
And this cat is going to now be responsible for having the entire concept of a student homecoming concert canceled on his watch. All because he couldn't handle his business behind closed doors and just wait for the drama to die down after Nov. 1.
That's almost as bad as the SGA president who had Aggie Fest canceled on his watch.
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Post by aggiejazz on Oct 8, 2009 21:51:47 GMT -5
History will now show that Harold Martin's first major action as chancellor of A&T was not to announce a new plan to increase enrollment or improve the graduation rate or to unveil some new doctoral program, but rather to cancel the student homecoming concert. Huh? With all the major issues concerning this university right now, it sure seems like he is being consumed by distractions. Huh Dr. Martin has addressed all of those issues you stated in your first paragraph.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 8, 2009 22:08:16 GMT -5
We have a new doctoral program? I'm sorry, how did I miss that?
I also missed the official announcement about the plan to increase the graduation rate.
Can you please point me to where I can read some more about that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2009 0:44:49 GMT -5
for those that dont know, SGA was against the move to remove A&T's name from the concert. Administration was trying to prevent half of the artists from performing and basically shutting the concert half-way down. Thanks to SGA and signed contracts, they will still be performing. For once, I thought A&T had found the correct chancellor. This is one move that i do not agree with and will have a BIG impact on downgrading "The Greatest Homecoming on Earth" This is exactly what Syene and the E-Board gets for going over Adminstration's head to speak to WXII about this and not working effectively with Travis to decide the best artists to book for the Concert. If they weren't bickering and in-fighting, they probably would have a concert that pleases everybody! BTW: I bet we wouldn't be having this issue if the SGA was relieved of their Homecoming planning duties. The SUAB should have the "U" dropped from their name and be allowed to fund and plan major activities like Homecoming and Aggie Fest. They have one damn good programing Chair over there and he has a GO-GO this weekend in Moore.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 9, 2009 7:49:09 GMT -5
I just heard a new radio commercial for the concert on my way to work this morning.
They are now calling it the "Swag City Homecoming Concert" and it is still featuring Gucci Mane, Ninki Minaj and OJ the Juiceman.
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Post by captaggie on Oct 9, 2009 10:21:51 GMT -5
I thought the purpose of the university is to education vs. entertain. Appears some of us have our priorities out of order.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 9, 2009 10:53:58 GMT -5
I don't really think that's the debate here.
I believe most of the people who posted in this thread are not really fans of Gucci Mane and don't find his brand of music entertaining.
My problem with this issue is that the university again allowed the outside media to dictate its internal policy. When are we going to realize that the News & Record is just playing chess with us? They are banking that we react to their negative publicity on a small issue ... and then they write more articles about our reaction to the issue that they themselves helped build up in the first place.
I fault Martin and the SGA president for not being able to see how big this issue would become and not being able to handle the problem behind closed doors.
I repeat: no one here would even be talking about a Gucci Mane after Nov. 1 if A&T wouldn't have gotten all religious all of the sudden. Plus, the whole thing reeks of hypocrisy once you consider the long list of other thug artists who have been welcomed to perform at our past homecoming concert.
Hell, we had Flava Flav perform with the Machine at halftime of the homecoming game not too long ago, and his entire career over the past 7 years has been based solely on his penchant for exploiting women of color. Where was the outrage then? As I recall, he drew a standing ovation from the Aggie Stadium crowd when he came out on the field.
Now you are basically going to have to cancel all future student homecoming concerts because of the stance you took against Gucci Mane. To me, that is like throwing the baby out with the bath water.
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Post by Aggie One on Oct 9, 2009 11:07:22 GMT -5
Maybe, but Martin wasn't the chancellor then either. I'm a conservative on these types of issues. I agree with him and the action that he took.
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Post by aggielove on Oct 9, 2009 11:31:03 GMT -5
You can't take that kind of stand on this type of concert. The concert is for the current students and draws in other members of their age group to the show. They're gonna wind up having 2 separate concerts like they did when I was there (1997-2001), where no one shows up to the one that's on campus and everybody goes to the show the Coliseum is having. Got to think about your audience before taking that kind of approach, especially if your history shows that this new moral stand is hypocritical.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 9, 2009 11:34:35 GMT -5
I think most of us on this board are conservative about these types of issues.
Why? Because most of us are over 30, have settled down, are raising families now, and have mortgages to pay each month.
Personally, I am 34 years old and my social life can best be described in one word: lame.
However, how many of us were really conservative when we were 19 - 20 years old and still in college?
Yes, my musical tastes have changed now that I've become old and wack, but back when I was in school I would have loved to see some Wu Tang or Nas or whoever was the biggest act at the moment.
That's all these kids today want.
BTW: For all you older members of the board, let me ask you this: how many of the artist you listened to when you were in undergrad are still around today and would fit Martin's moral standard?
How many of your favorite artist of yester year died of drug overdoses ... or their dad shot them ... or they got locked up for beating up their woman or not paying their taxes .. or they used to be real-life pimps and criminals.
Would Sam Cooke, Jimi Hendrix, Al Green, Barry White, Marvin Gaye and others fit Martin's criteria?
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 9, 2009 12:15:09 GMT -5
BTW: I need to do some research and see who WSSU had for their homecoming concert when Martin was the chancellor there from 2000-2006.
I better not see any Cash Moneys or No Limit Soliders on the bill during that time.
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