oleschoolaggie
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 11, 2009 14:16:52 GMT -5
Honestly with your larger fan base, making full-time move to the GC would have been a more logical move for A&T then UNCG. no, not really. generally, on campus students don't like catching shuttle buses to the coliseum, so student participation would decrease. it is far more convenient for them to go to corbett at their own leisure. uncg students don't have that problem because the coliseum is very close to campus. plus, even though they curtain off a bunch of seats, the atmosphere at the coliseum can't match corbett unless it's near capacity. i was a freshman the last year a&t played its games at the coliseum and the atmosphere between the two are like night and day. even when we played nccu or wssu at the coliseum, it couldn't come close to matching the atmosphere at corbett... |
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Post by aggiejazz on Jun 11, 2009 14:24:21 GMT -5
Guys, A&T tried to do just that a few years ago with games being played in the Coliseum like a holiday tournament. None of the other area schools would bite, not Elon, not High Point and not UNCG. Someone told me the same thing last year. Oh well. I think there's real money to be made with the idea. Honestly with your larger fan base, making full-time move to the GC would have been a more logical move for A&T then UNCG. I should have added that A&T probably wouldn't do it now if asked, unless a big sponsor will guarantee a certain amount of money for each school. Pre-conference schedule for MEAC schools are now full of guaranteed games with one or two cupcakes (normally D-II teams) thrown into the mix. |
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Post by dashspartan on Jun 11, 2009 14:30:28 GMT -5
Honestly with your larger fan base, making full-time move to the GC would have been a more logical move for A&T then UNCG. no, not really. generally, on campus students don't like catching shuttle buses to the coliseum, so student participation would decrease. it is far more convenient for them to go to corbett at their own leisure. uncg students don't have that problem because the coliseum is very close to campus. plus, even though they curtain off a bunch of seats, the atmosphere at the coliseum can't match corbett unless it's near capacity. i was a freshman the last year a&t played its games at the coliseum and the atmosphere between the two are like night and day. even when we played nccu or wssu at the coliseum, it couldn't come close to matching the atmosphere at corbett... We're going to be facing a similar issue. Even though Fleming is a small place, it's fun when there's some electricity in the air and it's a home court advantage. I'm afraid we're going to spend several years trying to recreate that atmosphere at the GC and may just not be able to do it. Of course a good product on the court will definitely help. |
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Post by Aggie Monster on Jun 11, 2009 14:56:54 GMT -5
Naw, not really. Corbett cost nothing to play in. A move to the GC only benifits us if we can draw over 8000. Only way we would do that is play Duke, UNC, NC State, or Wake in the GC as a home game.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 11, 2009 14:59:25 GMT -5
[I don't know if the change in leadership at both of our universities might not change some of the issues that have plagued our series. I think that one of the drawbacks for G is how a game @ A&T is looked at by the RPI. It would be viewed as semi-home for G instead of road. I believe that this is much of the reason that teams in Philly play each other at the Palestra (sp?). dashspartan, i very much appreciate your diplomatic observations, you seem to be a very cool dude. but let's be real for a second. do you really think uncg's rpi is the reason uncg won't play a home and home series with a&t? i mean, we're talking about 1 single game out of about 30 games on uncg's schedule. do you truly think 1 single game can pull your rpi down so far that the other 29 games won't matter? i don't know for sure why uncg won't come to corbett, but it ain't because they fear it may hurt their rpi. in my "opinion", they won't come to corbett because they probably fear their athletes will be exposed to a hostile crowd. and they would be, just like every a&t rival that comes to corbett. but it wouldn't be abnormal hostilities. it would just be a very lively crowd cheering for the home team to win, just like a good home crowd should. my honest opinion is that there may be some racial reasons why uncg won't come to corbett. no need to sugar coat it. it is what it is. i honestly believe that if a&t was a pwc, uncg would play a home and home series with us in a heartbeat. corbett is just as nice as fleming, so it can't be the physical structure itself. i mean, we're both d1 and we're right across town from each other. i think you probably know as well as i do that rpi has very little if anything to do with uncg not coming to corbett... |
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jun 11, 2009 15:05:56 GMT -5
Does UNCG schedule home and home games with High Point U or Elon? I honestly don't know the answer but that might show their overall scheduling philosophy.
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Post by dashspartan on Jun 11, 2009 15:12:41 GMT -5
my honest opinion is that there may be some racial reasons why uncg won't come to corbett. no need to sugar coat it. it is what it is. i honestly believe that if a&t was a pwc, uncg would play a home and home series with us in a heartbeat. corbett is just as nice as fleming, so it can't be the physical structure itself. i mean, we're both d1 and we're right across town from each other. i think you probably know as well as i do that rpi has very little if anything to do with uncg not coming to corbett... Honestly, I could see your point if we didn't just finish up with a home and home series with Norfolk State. So, I'm trying to figure out what the justification would be and the RPI seem like a logical thought process. In the end, you may be right. But I'd assume that we'd likewise avoid other HBCU's if that was the case. It may be as simple as our previous Coach/AD/Chancellor had issues with someone within A&T or vice versa. Guess we'll find out if/when the series starts back up. I'll be honestly with ya, though, oleschool ... when I saw UNCG had a home game with Webber International last year, I almost lost my mind. I thought, "I'd much rather drive over to A&T to watch my Spartans play then see them play a NAIA team." |
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Post by dashspartan on Jun 11, 2009 15:17:13 GMT -5
Does UNCG schedule home and home games with High Point U or Elon? I honestly don't know the answer but that might show their overall scheduling philosophy. We are required to with Elon. We share a division in the SoCon. We played HPU home-and-home probably 5 years ago (our previous coach signed the deal). High Point hired away our head recruiter last month. I doubt we'll play them again anytime soon. |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 11, 2009 15:32:27 GMT -5
i did a little research and it looks like we use to play uncg once every season from 1989 until 2002. and it was a very competitive rivalry from what i can see.
a&t leads the series 7 games to 6 over uncg. so why in the hail did they stop the series? we played 13 years in a row, but my information doesn't show where the games were played. and most of the games were close games...
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jun 11, 2009 15:34:21 GMT -5
I think all of those games where in the GC. I went to a lot of them when I was in school.
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Jun 11, 2009 15:34:53 GMT -5
A&T and UNCG played in Corbett when Corbett was the coach. They didn't care much for that atmosphere. Corbett held about 7500 at that time. Then the Greensboro Sport Commission got involved and the games move to the coliseum under the Wrangler banner, where Corbett continued his winning ways. During that time, fan support from UNCG was almost nonexistent. When Thomas took over the program, he didn't consider it to be a game of any importance. Fort advised him after about 3 or 4 years later, that the game did mean something. Thomas considered the conference games as being his primary concern. Not the UNCG game. To him it was no big deal if he lost that game. Fort didn't like his attitude about that particular game.
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Post by dashspartan on Jun 11, 2009 15:39:25 GMT -5
I think towards the end of the series ('01 or '02) UNCG had designs on moving to the GC full time. We played A&T, App State and Davidson there in one of those seasons.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jun 11, 2009 15:39:39 GMT -5
That sounds about right, because I know Thomas even hated playing the NCCU game.
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Post by dashspartan on Jun 11, 2009 15:46:47 GMT -5
Our previous coach, Fran McCaffery (now at Sienna) didn't care for the game at all. He only wanted to play at places he was into recruiting. That guy trashed out APR and constantly complained about everything.
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Post by The Professor on Jun 15, 2009 17:20:36 GMT -5
Thrill, remember when I pointed out to you that Matt Brown was at an A&T basketball game. Told u my friend, these jokers around here think they are slick.
UNCG and the city of Greensboro are out for themselves. I hope if A&T agrees to anything our payout is large and upfront
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