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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 14, 2006 9:10:08 GMT -5
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Post by trues on Sept 14, 2006 9:47:30 GMT -5
You right. Everyone else that is in front of us have had winning programs in the last 5 years.
Can you image if we start winning.
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Post by DOOMS on Sept 14, 2006 9:57:16 GMT -5
Remember we played the equivalent of a homecoming game for our first game. Common sense says that skews the numbers quite a bit.
That being said, we should average enough to be end up in the top 15 by the end of the year.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 14, 2006 9:57:49 GMT -5
I think this is a credit to Keith McCluney and the efforts that the A&T Sports Marketing department made in promoting the Winston game. It also shows that we as an athletic department made the right choice in ending the Labor Day Classic contract with Raleigh and Central. With the average ticket price for the Winston game at $20 dollars a pop, I'm sure we made some pretty nice coin from this home opener, especially since we didn't have NCCU or NC State in our pockets.
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Post by AggieWJM on Sept 14, 2006 14:16:21 GMT -5
With the average ticket price for the Winston game at $20 dollars a pop, I'm sure we made some pretty nice coin from this home opener, especially since we didn't have NCCU or NC State in our pockets. Thank You!! Thank You!!! Thank You!!!!
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Post by captaggie on Sept 14, 2006 16:39:09 GMT -5
IMO, this game was a good front office decision. I wouldn't have planned it this way, but our loss enhances the rivalry, thereby imcreasing the potential to generate more revenue in coming years.
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Post by numberonebrave on Sept 14, 2006 19:43:56 GMT -5
Next year the game is in Winston and the gate is $$$0.00
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Post by Aggie77 on Sept 14, 2006 20:25:14 GMT -5
Next year the game is in Winston and the gate is $$$0.00 Wrong! We get half of the gate. $0.00 parking and concessions.
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Post by JeffAggieFan on Sept 15, 2006 8:35:37 GMT -5
That why it so important that we beat Norfolk in three weeks so we can have a crowd over 12K against Morgan St. Morgan also need to win the Bowie Game also
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Post by Babynupe on Sept 15, 2006 8:57:23 GMT -5
^^^Since it's University Day, attendance should be around 12K or close to 15K.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 15, 2006 9:06:10 GMT -5
I don't think it matters what Morgan does. There fans are not making that trip down 85 regardless if the team is doing good or not. If we have a respectable showing against Hampton this week (scored some offensive touchdowns, don't give up 60) and then upset Norfolk two weeks later, I think our fan base will come out in pretty strong for the Morgan game.
Remember this will also be University day, which has traditionally been our biggest non-homecoming draw each year. There will be bussloads of high school kids and parents/chaperones in attendance.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 15, 2006 9:21:28 GMT -5
What we need to hope for is that FAMU is having a decent season. If they can will a few big games between now and our meeting with them on Nov. 4, then I can see a nice caravan of Rattler fans making the trek up for that game. There's still a trace of the heated rivalry we had with them at the start of this decade and I think our fans would be exicted about seeing them come back to Aggie Stadium. Especially if they bring the 100.
Morgan could draw at least 15K, Howard will be a sell-out, and if the stars are aligned properly, FAMU could draw another 15K. Elon would be good to draw 10K but it might be close to 8K if both teams are bottom-feeders again this year.
All in all, I think it's more that possible to average 16.5 K this season which should have us in the top 10 in attendance nationally. That's especially impressive when you consider that this team will be hard pressed to win 3 games.
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Post by exterminator on Sept 15, 2006 9:50:54 GMT -5
Aggies still owed money 2005 game GREENSBORO -- A year after it was contractually obligated to do so, the non-profit organization that ran the now-defunct Aggie-Eagle Classic has failed to pay N.C. A&T $53,190 for its participation in the 2005 football game.
Reginald Wade, A&T's assistant vice chancellor for business services, said Thursday that the university has received $96,810 of the $150,000 described in the contract as a minimum guaranteed payout.
N.C. Central, A&T's opponent in the game, has received its $150,000, said Kyle Serba, a spokesman for that school's athletics department. Both universities must use the game revenue for scholarships.
In 2002, A&T and N.C. Central ceded administrative duties of the event to the Capital Area Sports Foundation, a tax-exempt arm of Raleigh city government chartered specifically to operate that one football game at N.C. State's Carter-Finley Stadium.
Federal tax returns name Lawrence Wray, a Raleigh assistant city manager for more than 20 years, as the foundation's chief operating officer. Wray did not return telephone calls or an e-mail seeking comment. Dee Todd, A&T's athletics director, declined comment Thursday.
The contract specifies that full payment is due on the day of the game -- Sept. 5, 2005, in this case. A&T lost the game 23-22.
When A&T announced Sept. 13, 2005, that it would suspend the Central football series and end the Aggie-Eagle Classic, Todd cited a desire to eliminate the middle man and play a home game on Labor Day weekend, among other factors.
The end of the rivalry elicited some anger, mostly from Central. Bill Hayes, who became the Eagles' athletics director shortly after A&T fired him as its football coach in 2002, called it "a shame" and spoke of an impending "void" in the landscape of black college football.
Instead of facing Central, which A&T first played in 1924, Todd signed a deal to renew a rivalry with Winston-Salem State.
The Aggies and Rams played Sept. 2 before an Aggie Stadium crowd of 21,005 -- the largest attendance for any game hosted by a Division I-AA school that weekend. A&T kept almost all of the revenue from that game.
The university has not provided ticket sales information requested by the News & Record. Assuming the school sold 15,000 tickets at an average price of $15 each, A&T made about $225,000.
A&T won't collect a big payday next year because it will play at Winston-Salem State. But A&T's two-year average revenue of about $112,500 equals the highest single-year receipt from the Aggie-Eagle Classic. For now, it's greater than what the university got from the 2005 game.
A&T and WSSU have informally discussed a revenue-sharing agreement starting in 2008 that would give the visitor a greater cut of the gate receipts than it has earned in the past.
"Maybe it wouldn't be 50-50," Todd said. "Maybe 70-30. But at least you'd get something every year."
Cursory examination suggests A&T can equal its revenue from the Aggie-Eagle package if the series with Winston-Salem State remains popular. The Rams play at Bowman Gray Stadium, a 17,000-seat municipal facility that can be sold out if Aggies supporters are as numerous (7,500 or so) as Rams fans were Sept. 2 at Greensboro.
As for the Aggie-Eagle contract, tax returns suggest the foundation had made money in the past three years. The 2002 game registered a profit of $90,951, the 2003 event lost $42,607, and the 2004 Classic, the most recent one for which records are available, produced a $13,255 surplus. That works out to a net profit of $61,599 over three years.
The contract calls for the universities to receive an unspecified bonus payment in any profitable year. As of Thursday afternoon, A&T attorneys were checking athletics department records and studying the contract to determine if the school is owed money in either of the two profitable years.
A&T officials had not seen the foundation tax return that covers the 2005 Aggie-Eagle Classic as of Thursday.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 15, 2006 10:02:18 GMT -5
Actually, the average ticket price was $20 which would bring that figure to about $300,000. And as Dex stated on the meacfans board, that's not including parketing and concessions. I know I dropped at least $35 dollars on food and souvenirs for me and the Mrs.
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Post by Aggie One on Sept 15, 2006 18:40:19 GMT -5
It still amazes me when NCCU fans want to rag on us for dropping them. It's all about the the bottom line..... show me the money (without the middle man grabbing up the profit)!
Now if our AD would just follow suit with the SCSU game, the program could actually be in the black by season's end.
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