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Post by 4XLAGGIE on Sept 5, 2006 9:14:42 GMT -5
Pastpirate, I could go thru that list for you one by one and give you the reason why they are not here. I don't have that kind of time. I will tell you that there are 8 seniors on that list, 3 on the list who dressed on saturday so they are still on the team. You got about 10 or 12 that had academic problems of one kind or another and the rest decided to go elsewhere. William Carter was really the only one who could have helped us that left and he did so after last football season, almost before the coach was hired.
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Post by aggiejazz on Sept 5, 2006 10:19:52 GMT -5
It is funny how everyone is talking "this is a rebuilding year" when weeks leading up to this game only about three people said we have to be patient for about 3 to 4 years. We got glowing reviews about what people saw the Aggies do in football practice. I even begin to believe it against my better judgement. Now people are talking about 18 -19 year old were going up against 23-25 year old players and that is why the Aggies got stumped. That is an exaggeration of what happen last Saturday.
For the general fans this program will not look better because the tasks ahead will get tougher. Now, the coaches for the next four weeks, until they meet a less diificult opponent, are going to have to keep the football players emotional psychic up after each beat down and at the same trying to coach them for the next game and teach them fundamentals. I am a basketball man and I know during the season it is hard to teach fundamentals and prepare for the next game because you don't have enough time to do it all in a satisfactory way. Just imagine the difficult week the coaches will have trying to get themselves and the players prepared for Bethune Cookman.
It is going to take time and the clock is ticking ask any fired head coach.
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Post by DECKS on Sept 5, 2006 10:48:37 GMT -5
In retrospect I think our expectations were over-inflated because we were playing WSSU. We should have know better than to expect a win coming off of a down year with a new coach and 19 new starters!! Also remember that a lot of these guys didn't get to participate in spring drills! Hell, there probably a'int but a handful of programs on any level that could overcome those obstacles. About an hour before the game I was breaking down our lineup with a couple of buddies and the light bulb finally came on,........ we all came to the conclusion that Winston might put up 50 pts on us. After the first two plays I was sure they would. When you have team with so many new faces in the starting lineup they'll tend to look slow, weak, confused and will miss assignments. Bottom line this game went exactly as it should have. We were picked last for a reason. If the situations had been reversed I would have expected us to put up no less than 60 points on Winston. At this point about all Fobbs can do is continue to tweak his lineups and simplify his schemes as much as possible. I think this will be a much better team by seasons end which is about all we can hope for.
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Post by treese on Sept 5, 2006 11:12:46 GMT -5
dex check your pm!!!
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Post by dj98 on Sept 5, 2006 12:15:47 GMT -5
I heard the strength and condition coach was fired, in the summer time. The team did not have a weight lifting program. The team was tired in the second quarter, Weights is the difference between a beat down and a respectiful game. If this is true the team can't catch up the weight program during the season. What was the staff thinking about by not getting the team in Physical shape.
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Post by DOOMS on Sept 5, 2006 12:36:14 GMT -5
It's a lot more than weights or seniors and juniors or grades or anything, but it's a lot simpler too.
The root of this comes down to dollars and cents. We had a coach who could navigate the landscape without the proper financial support and get us to eight wins. So we fired him and gave the next guy a few extra bucks to pay his assistants but no more money for recruiting. Then we fire him (after not paying for summer school courses so he could retain his players) and bring in the new guy. From what I understand the athletic department budget still hasn't increased. I don't think it's increased substantially since 1998.
Do you make what you made in 1998? Could you live off of that?
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Post by trues on Sept 5, 2006 18:49:39 GMT -5
Dooms, in one way you are right but when I look at WSSU,SHAW and NCCU players they are bigger,agile and stronger. Those team can and will beat us today. All of those school budgets are half of what we bring in.
Although I agree finance could possibly be one reason you can't convince me that it is the only reason why our Football program is in such bad shape.
What black coach don't complain about lack of funding to there program. Yet they have to be creative enough to have a winning program in spite of lack of resources.
Let's not forget Fobbs salary ranks either 2 or 3 highest paid coach in the MEAC.
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Post by DOOMS on Sept 5, 2006 19:35:23 GMT -5
trues, salary don't pay the bills.
salary don't pay for a strength coach.
salary don't recruit bigger better faster players.
salary don't pay for tutors to make sure kids are up on their classes and eligible to play.
salary don't make kids that are eligible to play in the d-2 level eligible to play d-1
salary don't teach an undersized kid how to cut block or angle block or make a tackle.
See what I'm saying. I think this sentence sums it up:
We are seeing the results of a long underfunded program that was held together by bbq sauce and ribs made by one Mr. William Hayes. When we got rid of him we should've immediately massively increased the budget to compensate for the loss, cause buddy was a hell of a lot more than just a dude that told funny jokes at press conferences.
We didn't raise the budget, we didn't properly plan, and that is why we currently have the worst athletic department in the meac and that is why it will take years to fix.
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Post by bluehaze on Sept 5, 2006 19:36:42 GMT -5
Dooms, in one way you are right but when I look at WSSU,SHAW and NCCU players they are bigger,agile and stronger. Those team can and will beat us today. All of those school budgets are half of what we bring in. Although I agree finance could possibly be one reason you can't convince me that it is the only reason why our Football program is in such bad shape. What black coach don't complain about lack of funding to there program. Yet they have to be creative enough to have a winning program in spite of lack of resources. Let's not forget Fobbs salary ranks either 2 or 3 highest paid coach in the MEAC. That's his salary. That's not the salary of his assistants, the lack of salary for an offensive co-ordinator, the recruiting budget, the scholarships, the coaching clinics....
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Post by dj98 on Sept 5, 2006 20:28:27 GMT -5
Mr. William (Bill) Hayes
is laughing at us right now. You never know what you have until it's GONE, Long GONE. You can also tell that Bill Hayes has touched those players at NCCU. They are mentally and physically tough like the 1998,1999 and 2000 teams. Bill made it happen with his talk game. That made up the other half of the money the program needed. I hate he's gone!!!!!!!!!
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Post by dj98 on Sept 5, 2006 21:02:26 GMT -5
Quante Speight (may as well be off the team)
I heard he's Thrid String, (What!!!) he is the best back we have besides Sweeney. Something is wrong with that picture. Who can explain that move by Fobbs!!!!!!!!
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Post by aggie75 on Sept 5, 2006 22:10:15 GMT -5
Let me get this straight, some of you guys think that Fobbs came to A&T and decided that the first thing he needed to do was get rid of his upper classmen. Later he found out who his best runnng back was and immediately decided to put him on third string. I think we have a great coach who just dosen't have what he needs in the trenches quite yet. That being said, I thought our play selection on Saturday was the best I've seen in years. Our team need lots of work but I think we are headed in the right direction.
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Post by Aggie77 on Sept 5, 2006 22:28:52 GMT -5
Quante Speight (may as well be off the team) I heard he's Thrid String, (What!!!) he is the best back we have besides Sweeney. Something is wrong with that picture. Who can explain that move by Fobbs!!!!!!!! Speight may very well be the most talented RB on the team. However, it is my understanding this will be his second or third week practicing, I also understand that he is still rehabing a hairline fracture, he also got married over the summer. Don’t forget the player with the most talent is not always the best player.
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Post by Maxell on Sept 5, 2006 23:18:07 GMT -5
Speaking of RBs, how is Ferguson's knee?
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Post by aggiejazz on Sept 6, 2006 7:34:06 GMT -5
I was told a funny thing last night. The strength and conditioning coach whom A&T did not re-sign this spring, was hired by WSSU and started working this summer with the Rams. A&T new strength and conditioning will be on campus later this fall. He was hired back in July. Maybe, he could not get a early release date from his current job. I heard the strength and condition coach was fired, in the summer time. The team did not have a weight lifting program. The team was tired in the second quarter, Weights is the difference between a beat down and a respectiful game. If this is true the team can't catch up the weight program during the season. What was the staff thinking about by not getting the team in Physical shape.
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