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Post by Maxell on Sept 4, 2006 14:14:27 GMT -5
Was Saturday's lost due to? a) lack of talent b) talented but inexperienced players c) coaching d) all of the above e) other I actually work in Winston so I'm sure i will hear about this lost until we are able shut them up with a dominate win! It was all about the trenches. The front 5 on offense and the front 7 on defense were undersized and overmatched. They need a full year in the weightroom and a full year of fundamentals. They'll get better as the year progresses.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 4, 2006 16:18:54 GMT -5
Honestly, it might have been in the best interest of the senior players who left. This will definitely be a rebuilding year and I wouldn't want all those kids to end their careers at A&T on such a down note. Plus, Fobbs would probably prefer to begin his tenure with the slate completely wiped clean. Let's not forget that this was a 3-8 team each of the past two years. It wasn't like he lost a whole squad of All-Americans.
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Post by DOOMS on Sept 4, 2006 16:38:41 GMT -5
I'd rather go down fighting, but that's my personal preference.
As far as the trenches, it might be time to change the game plan a little. Since we don't have the size, strength, or depth to go mano a mano on the lines, perhaps we should be utilizing plays that don't call from mano a mano blocking. Cut blocking, angle blocking, anything but straight up.
On defense, the guys are just going to have to make tackles. It appears some guys were switched so that we could take advantage of their speed. They were getting to the ballcarrier and just letting him run through or over them. Fundamentals fundamentals fundamentals. We have to play solid basic football if we'd like to win a game before 2008.
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Post by numberonebrave on Sept 4, 2006 16:53:21 GMT -5
Agree w/ 4xla , he did not run off anyone...provide the list name 5
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Post by Aggie One on Sept 4, 2006 17:22:05 GMT -5
Keep in mind we lost 20 plus some seniors through graduation from the start. Everyone is jumping and down about dropping this game but if you are playing 18 and 19 y/o kids against 23-24 and couple of cases 25- and 26 year-olds, the result was predictable.
We must play better especially on defense, no question about that, but honestly can anyone say that the offense was worse than last year 's with all the seniors we had then?
No way. Last year's group wouldn't have scored.
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Post by pastpirate on Sept 4, 2006 17:26:48 GMT -5
For 4XLaggie and numberonebrave: Here is the list of Jr & soph listed on the 2005 roster that are not on the roster now. 1. Tyrone Braxton 2. Brandon Burris 3. William Carter 4. Andre Corbett 5. Monte' Daniels 6. Antonio Goode 7. Oritz Green 8. Brandon Greeson 9. Darrell Hamilton 10. Kelvin Haywood 11. Curtis Jackson 12. John Kato 13. Omar Kinnebrew 14. Brandon Long 15. Jarrett Marlin 16. Cedric Maynor 17. Kendric Maynor 18. Justin McAdoo 19. James Newby 20. Orlando Norman 21. Ean Pino 22. Edward Purnell 23. Lammon Ringold 24. Tim Shapshire 25. William Short 26. Roderick Stevens 27. Theron Thomas 28. Tiwan Twitty 29. Brandon Wade 30. Quentin Watkins 31. Maurice Weaver 32. Juan Williams 33. Jonathan Metcalf (name on roster but not on team) 34. Quante Speight (may as well be off the team)
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Post by trues on Sept 4, 2006 17:47:22 GMT -5
Aggie One ,I would agree for the most part that I think we have better skills players that we need to continue to mature but where I would disagree with our last year players would be the size. If you just talking pure size I don't think WSSU would have been as physical with us with the likes of Rick Lewis,Brandon Greese, Sith etc... Now would we have won the game problem not when you had Mashall Gleen playing like he was in the beginning of the last year season.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 4, 2006 18:01:04 GMT -5
7. I could have sworn Trey Green was out there against WSSU Saturday night.
BTW: I was out at practice today and Marshall Glenn, Theron Thomas, Doug Brown and Brandon Reliford were all working as volunteer coaches. Glenn, believe it our not, was working very close with our young QBs and may have a bright future in coaching once he completes his degree this fall. Despite his physical shortcomings, I think we can all agree that Glenn always showed a lot of heart and character during his four year here, and now it appears he may also have some techincal knowledge of the game that he's willing to give to the next crop of Aggie Qbs.
I glad that Fobbs is reaching back to some of the former players and giving them a chance to contribute to this program.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 4, 2006 18:16:07 GMT -5
15. Jarrett Marlin was a senior last year and, academically, it was a small miracle that he was even eligible to play last season.
6. I'm pretty sure Sleep was a senior last year. He played on the same Dudley team as Rickie Lewis and Theron Thomas.
12. John Kato was a senior last year. He was recruited by Hayes.
10. Kevin Haywood was listed as a receiver in the WSSU game.
18. McAdoo had academic problems the minute he stepped on campus. You never knew until the eleventh hour if was going to be eligible or not.
19. James Newby - totally garbage. He probably wasn't even offered a scholarship this year.
32. Juan Williams was always injured. He was in seen in T-shirts more than he ever was in pads. You can't miss something you never had.
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Post by aggiejazz on Sept 4, 2006 20:14:11 GMT -5
In my best Allen Iverson impersonation: "Man, we're talking Winston Salem State, we're talkin' Winston Salem State!
This WSSU team is weaker this year than last year and last year they lost to Catawba 20-10, Howard U, man we're talkin' Howard U! 20-6 and finally got a beat down by SC State 52-12. Then WSSU began feasting on the weak of the CIAA for wins like Livingstone, ST Aug and VA Union.
I don't care what excuses anyone bring up about the players on the field. It is not the players on the field fault for this debacle. It is the people who put the players out there on the field who are the blame. I can accept the loss as an Alunni but this beatdown indicated pure sorriness from people in charge.
If you buy a table from a furniture maker and after the delivery you put a pot of greens on the table and then the table falls apart, are you going to blame the table or the furniture maker who put it together and sold it to ya?
The Aggie defense were not a bunch of 18 year olds and the offensive line were not all 18 year olds and even if they were, this program is not suppose to be a Savannah State program that lost to Benedict College this past Saturday.
A&T has a nice fieldhouse and nice pretty weights and they have been there for awhile. Yet, the players were pushed around. Where's the beef? What you saw this past Saturday was a Savannah State program. You better be happy that WSSU was penalty prone in the second half or the score would have been worse.
So get out your crying towel, in fact have spare because this going to be a long suffering year.
Here is a news flash (but it shouldn't be new news), you are going to need some new towels for next year, too.
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Post by Aggie One on Sept 4, 2006 23:36:39 GMT -5
Green started Saturday at fullback( Qrtiz is his given name but goes by Trey) so did Brandon Long at LB, Twitty's type -1 diabetes halted his career, Corbett, Hanilton, Daniels, Goode, Kato, Short, Maynor, Marlin, Weaver, and Kinnebrew were all seniors, the rest were academic causualites, couldn't pass the drug tests (Greeson for one), transferred or quit.
You play with what you have. True freshmen and red shirts.
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Post by Aggie E on Sept 5, 2006 6:29:40 GMT -5
Thanks Aggie One for clearing this up for us! Got to face reality fellas....this is truly a rebuilding year. Fobbs is working with what he's got. I just hope the Hampton game can at least be respectable. I have a co-worker and HU fan that's been talking trash to me every since the schedule came out!
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Post by JayBee on Sept 5, 2006 8:44:28 GMT -5
Rebuilding takes time...even Bill Hayes had to rebuild before he was successfull. But I believe Fobbs will be successful. He is a hellified recruiter and check out this statement: "By the end of this year, this A&T team will be pretty good. I'm glad I had them early and not late." -- Kermit Blount, WSSU coach
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Post by Aggie Monster on Sept 5, 2006 9:00:34 GMT -5
Give this man time. His recruiting class looked great to me, but like someone stated earlier 18/19 year olds can not handle 21-25 year olds. We call that "grown man strength". All yall remember how your out of shape uncle with the beer gut could toss your slim cut-up a$$ around with ease. LOL
I'm really not surprised at the outcome. I had hope, but when I saw our roster it was enevitable. Especially after looking at the ages.
We'll be back. It wont be this year, but as long as I see improvement each game this year I'm satisfied.
We should see improvement until Hampton takes the air completely out of us. Then we will bounce back some more.
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Post by BigtimeAggie on Sept 5, 2006 9:04:23 GMT -5
Okay I did see some positives. I did notice the coaches on the sideline with the chalk board trying to teach and make adjustments. That is a good sign...and noone seemed to panic when we fell behind
As everyone has said it will tkae time to rebuild...its just painful to watch.
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