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Post by aggieblackie on Mar 27, 2018 22:29:43 GMT -5
Under Cal Irvin and also the history of A&T basketball there has never been a season that was not played.
All of Cal Irvin teams won 20 plus games per year under stiff competition. No division II schools to pad
the rescords. Winning 20 plus games per year was a "given".
The 1968 team at A&T was just as loaded as the 1967 team but did not win the CIAA Tournament. From the
1967 team we lost at least 4 to 5 seniors.
I can't really remember if Guilford had black players in 1967 but I do know they had a smoker. They did
get players like M. L Carr, Greg Jackson, World B Free later on. They were great also.
Back in the 60's the CIAA was loaded with top black players is all I am saying. All teams had great players
and the competition was stiffer than it is today. I ain't talking about the money games but conference and
HBCU talent.
Hell, people don't even go see games at the CIAA Tourney anymore because the talent level is not like it was in
the 50 and 60's. The CIAA Tourney is nothing but a big party
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Post by aggieblackie on Mar 27, 2018 22:52:39 GMT -5
Side Note: Teddy Campbell was a beast playing center for T. He was the all time leading rebounder in Aggie history.
Hi is possibly the best center to play also. William Gilmer better known as "Big G" was a great center on the 1967
team.
I read in a book on the career of Henry Logan who was the first black player to play on an all white team in the
south that when the fans called him the "N" word his freshman year he would hit 35 and 40 points on them. He said
he faced all kind of racial strife playing in the Carolina Conference and other white schools. Logan was the all
time leading scorer in North Carolina colleges for years after he left Western Carolina. He averaged over 30 points
per game for his entire career. He was only 6 feet tall and jumped center in every game against the opposing teams
center and won 90% of the tips.
When we talk about Aggie guards don't forget George Mack 1967, James Outlaw, June Harris, Al Carter and more.
We have had some great teams and talent at A&T.
Coach Cal Irvin won the first ever MEAC Tournament and retired.
Earl Monroe who averaged over 40 points a game his senior year was a monster.
Great HBCU talent in the 60's. I could name a bunch of names but I am sleepy now.
Oh, Aggiegroove, they just inducted the 1967 Winston Salem Rams Championship team into the CIAA
Hall of Fame at the 2018 CIAA Tournament. That team had "8" Grooves on that team. I wonder why
it took them 50 years to honor them? As you know Earl "The Pearl" Monroe is a Groove also.
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Mar 27, 2018 23:54:12 GMT -5
So in the 1967 season, we lost to Guilford 84-84......what was the makeup of Guilford College, with respect to color? Also, when looking back in the record books, the 1968 season is not recorded.....the records show the 1966-67 season, then skip to the 1968-69 season Was there something going on (probation; civil rights strife) in 1968 that prevented basketball from being played in 1968?? The basketball season of 1968-69 was played. The racial riot was in the spring of the school year of 1968-69. Sections of the bullet riddle wall of Scott Hall are mounted and preserved at the reflection fountain across from the new student center. |
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Mar 28, 2018 0:17:36 GMT -5
One of the great teams of all time would have been the 1958-59 team that played in the NCAA DII final four. There have been other great teams that came after'59. We need to capture and preserve our history whether in athletics or student achievement. As someone suggested, every year a selected team of yesteryear should be invited back during football or basketball season to commemorate and celebrate their past. Our archives on athletics history leaves a lot to be desired. Most schools do a great job of collecting, preserving and organizing their history. We can do that with assistance from the library or some other discipline that researches history. There is an archives at A&T on football but it needs updating and some corrections made. Basketball too.
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Post by aggie2ru on May 11, 2018 20:02:09 GMT -5
Henry Logan was from Asheville, NC and he would drop 50 on you like it was nothing. Logan went to Western Carolina. After the 58-59 team featuring Al Attles from A&T who played with Wilt Chamberlin in the NBA. Al later won an NBA Championship as the coach of the San Francisco Warriors. He stayed with the organization as GM/President until his retirement. After Al left T the mantle was turned over to Hugh Evans and Jerry Powell who were backcourt teammates. Hugh never played in the NBA but was an NBA official (one of the first black officials) for a long time. Hugh was one of the officials in the 1984 NBA Championship series (Bos vs. LA). JP (Jerry Powell) was from Brooklyn and played at Boys High School with the famous Connie Hawkins ("The Hawk"). Coach Cal Irvin from Newark, NJ had a NYC/Philly pipeline during those days and his brother was Baseball Hall of Famer Monte Irvin. Monte Irvin was the first black to play baseball in the American League.
The old timers still talk about the 2 OT game between T and Norfolk State. They narrowly beat us 134-132. Some say it was the greatest college game ever,
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Post by aggierattler on May 11, 2018 21:38:09 GMT -5
Henry Logan was from Asheville, NC and he would drop 50 on you like it was nothing. Logan went to Western Carolina. After the 58-59 team featuring Al Attles from A&T who played with Wilt Chamberlin in the NBA. Al later won an NBA Championship as the coach of the San Francisco Warriors. He stayed with the organization as GM/President until his retirement. After Al left T the mantle was turned over to Hugh Evans and Jerry Powell who were backcourt teammates. Hugh never played in the NBA but was an NBA official (one of the first black officials) for a long time. Hugh was one of the officials in the 1984 NBA Championship series (Bos vs. LA). JP (Jerry Powell) was from Brooklyn and played at Boys High School with the famous Connie Hawkins ("The Hawk"). Coach Cal Irvin from Newark, NJ had a NYC/Philly pipeline during those days and his brother was Baseball Hall of Famer Monte Irvin. Monte Irvin was the first black to play baseball in the American League. The old timers still talk about the 2 OT game between T and Norfolk State. They narrowly beat us 134-132. Some say it was the greatest college game ever. |
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Post by SixtiesAggie on May 30, 2018 18:09:50 GMT -5
Henry Logan was from Asheville, NC and he would drop 50 on you like it was nothing. Logan went to Western Carolina. After the 58-59 team featuring Al Attles from A&T who played with Wilt Chamberlin in the NBA. Al later won an NBA Championship as the coach of the San Francisco Warriors. He stayed with the organization as GM/President until his retirement. After Al left T the mantle was turned over to Hugh Evans and Jerry Powell who were backcourt teammates. Hugh never played in the NBA but was an NBA official (one of the first black officials) for a long time. Hugh was one of the officials in the 1984 NBA Championship series (Bos vs. LA). JP (Jerry Powell) was from Brooklyn and played at Boys High School with the famous Connie Hawkins ("The Hawk"). Coach Cal Irvin from Newark, NJ had a NYC/Philly pipeline during those days and his brother was Baseball Hall of Famer Monte Irvin. Monte Irvin was the first black to play baseball in the American League. The old timers still talk about the 2 OT game between T and Norfolk State. They narrowly beat us 134-132. Some say it was the greatest college game ever, There were five or six players that played the first year that Jackie Robinson made it to the majors in 1947. He started at the beginning of the season in early spring. The other came during late summer. Hence, he was the first. The second was Larry Doby of the Cleveland Indians,followed by the others. Monte Irvin came later, either 1948 or 1949. Henry Logan was drafted by Seattle but signed with the an ABA team. They were the first to travel to the mountains and offer money, he needed an agent or someone to represent him. His career ended with bad knees that he received in high school and reinjured. He still holds all of WCU records and probably the conferences. |
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Post by aggie2ru on Jun 3, 2018 19:28:04 GMT -5
Henry Logan was from Asheville, NC and he would drop 50 on you like it was nothing. Logan went to Western Carolina. After the 58-59 team featuring Al Attles from A&T who played with Wilt Chamberlin in the NBA. Al later won an NBA Championship as the coach of the San Francisco Warriors. He stayed with the organization as GM/President until his retirement. After Al left T the mantle was turned over to Hugh Evans and Jerry Powell who were backcourt teammates. Hugh never played in the NBA but was an NBA official (one of the first black officials) for a long time. Hugh was one of the officials in the 1984 NBA Championship series (Bos vs. LA). JP (Jerry Powell) was from Brooklyn and played at Boys High School with the famous Connie Hawkins ("The Hawk"). Coach Cal Irvin from Newark, NJ had a NYC/Philly pipeline during those days and his brother was Baseball Hall of Famer Monte Irvin. Monte Irvin was the first black to play baseball in the American League. The old timers still talk about the 2 OT game between T and Norfolk State. They narrowly beat us 134-132. Some say it was the greatest college game ever, There were five or six players that played the first year that Jackie Robinson made it to the majors in 1947. He started at the beginning of the season in early spring. The other came during late summer. Hence, he was the first. The second was Larry Doby of the Cleveland Indians,followed by the others. Monte Irvin came later, either 1948 or 1949. Henry Logan was drafted by Seattle but signed with the an ABA team. They were the first to travel to the mountains and offer money, he needed an agent or someone to represent him. His career ended with bad knees that he received in high school and reinjured. He still holds all of WCU records and probably the conferences. SixtiesAggie......................... My bad....... you are absolutely correct about Larry Doby. Monte Irvin came behind Doby. Hey man.....I try to keep it 100 but sometimes I fall short and come in around 90---95  ......old age?  ??  . Seriously, there is sooooo much that is unknown about our school's history that leaves us the right to be proud. Aggie Pride!!!!! |
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Jun 4, 2018 12:39:49 GMT -5
I agree with all of those exclamation points!!!!! Aggie Always!
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Post by AggieGroove on Jun 4, 2018 14:26:13 GMT -5
I was just checking.....this post is 10 yrs old and has 37k views...amazing.
Thinks it speaks mightily about A&T as a BB power, CIAA and beyond!
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Post by jcotton on Dec 27, 2019 12:20:10 GMT -5
Good picture of Al, Joe Cotton and Hugh Evans. The best back court combo was Al Attles and Joe Howell. Howell could play the point, but was a big time scorer and played the two position mostly. Attles was the master orchestrator. He was a defensive genius, a master passer (blind or any type) and ballhandler who could score. But he loved to facilitate. Both he and Howell had a lot speed and leaping ability. Aggierattler, nice of you to remember Pedro. He was a diehard loyal Aggie. He would drive down from Philly to track meets. Home Boy of Joe Howell, Vince Miller (who played with Wilt at Overbrook) and few others who played at A&T. 60's ............Remember the backcourt combo of Hugh Evans (NBA ref for over 25 yrs) and "JP" Jerry Powell (who played w/the unbelievable Connie Hawkins at Boys High in Brooklyn). JP was a close friend of NBA legend Lenny Wilkins amd was on his ATL Hawks staff for a number of yrs. |
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Post by jcotton on Dec 27, 2019 12:21:17 GMT -5
Please share the pic of Joe Cotton. I am his son in law
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Post by jcotton on Dec 27, 2019 13:16:12 GMT -5
Please share the pic of Joe Cotton. I am his son in law Both of his grandsons wanted to play for T but Joyner was very messy. |
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Post by Aggie77 on Dec 27, 2019 16:45:53 GMT -5
Please share the pic of Joe Cotton. I am his son in law The older old timers can confirm if this is Joe Cotton, but this is my best guess,  This 1959 Aggie Team won the CIAA and made it to the Final Four of NCAA Division II Men's Basketball Championship. Regional Quarterfinals: Tuskegee, W 101–87 Regional Finals: Florida A&M, W 98–75 Elite Eight: American, W 87–70 Final Four Semi: Evansville, L 92–110 National 3rd Place Game: Cal State Los Angeles, W 101-84 All-tournament team Hugh Ahlering (Evansville) Paul Benes (Hope) Joe Cotton (North Carolina A&T)Leo Hill (Cal State-Los Angeles) Jack Israel (Southwest Missouri State) |
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Post by jcotton on Dec 27, 2019 18:01:19 GMT -5
Please share the pic of Joe Cotton. I am his son in law The older old timers can confirm if this is Joe Cotton, but this is my best guess, This 1959 Aggie Team won the CIAA and made it to the Final Four of NCAA Division II Men's Basketball Championship. Regional Quarterfinals: Tuskegee, W 101–87 Regional Finals: Florida A&M, W 98–75 Elite Eight: American, W 87–70 Final Four Semi: Evansville, L 92–110 National 3rd Place Game: Cal State Los Angeles, W 101-84 All-tournament team Hugh Ahlering (Evansville) Paul Benes (Hope) Joe Cotton (North Carolina A&T)Leo Hill (Cal State-Los Angeles) Jack Israel (Southwest Missouri State) |
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. Seriously, there is sooooo much that is unknown about our school's history that leaves us the right to be proud. Aggie Pride!!!!! 
