Why are you voting for Obama?

[aahhbigboy]

To be honest and.....as usual, I'm not thrilled by either candidate. I feel like I can vote blindfolded and it won't matter one way or another. Both have socialist agendas. I find that when I ask most people this question about Obama, it's very rare that someone can give an intelligent answer.

Are you just impressed by his speeches, or have you done research on the guy? Just wondering why you are voting for him.

[Aggie Monster]

LOL, are you kiddin? come on man, you have to be kidding? ROFL.

You could actually vote "blindfolded" between McCain and Obama? LOL, ROFL.

I can run of a slew of things on how they differ on and you say you can vote "blindfolded". aahhbigboy I respected your straight-up football talk, but just stick to that. Politics aint your thing.

[aahhbigboy]

Jul 16, 2008 20:44:07 GMT -5 Aggie Monster said:

LOL, are you kiddin? come on man, you have to be kidding? ROFL.

You could actually vote "blindfolded" between McCain and Obama? LOL, ROFL.

I can run of a slew of things on how they differ on and you say you can vote "blindfolded". aahhbigboy I respected your straight-up football talk, but just stick to that. Politics aint your thing.

Come on Monster, I'm not trying to turn this into that. I know they are different in a lot of ways. When I said "blindfolded", I just meant that they both have things I like and I don't like, i.e. I'm not crazy about either.

But your response is the typical one I referred too. You said that you could name a slew of things.....but you didn't name even one. Bandwagon perhaps? I don't know. I just want to see what other peoples' perspective is on Obama. Not trying to debate anything.

Oh and btw Monster, I don't post on the football board.

[DOOMS]

I’m leaning towards voting for Obama for several reasons. While I’m always leery of putting somebody with scant experience in a position, he will have adequate support. Furthermore, his scant experience will in my opinion be far better than McCain’s bad experience. Obama seems like a man of character (although that appears to change with each passing day as he becomes more entrenched in politics). McCain is a character. Obama’s still on his first wife. McCain dumped his when he found out she was crippled and got a trophy wife. Furthermore, no person that could actually be in a position to bomb Iran should be joking about it. He, like our current president, does not seem to realize that some isht ain’t funny to some people. The whole world knows that he fully intends to stay in Iraq. While I think Obama will stay in Iraq two, at least he won’t intend to. I also admire Obama’s statement (that he has since backed off on due to most of this country being full of jerks) that he would go to Iran and talk to the leaders. This country has a real problem when a potential leader is chastised for daring to attempt diplomacy.

I actually like Bush’s personality, if he was…. a security guard. The cat is personable and funny and dumb. I do not like him as president. I can say the same about McCain. It’s ok for me to joke about things and act a certain way, but presidents and potential presidents shouldn’t be jauning on other countries like I jaun on people on the board.

When people first began talking about the vote, Obama was at the bottom of my list, right behind Hillary, who also sucked in my opinion. I was looking to vote for Rudy, until the stupid @ss dissed the very neighborhood I lived in at the time. Since then the Republican Party has kind of taken the attitude that if it comes down to a black and a woman there’s no way they can lose. McCain is an afterthought. Watching him run is like watching a pickup basketball game where one guy is standing there and nobody really wants to pick him, but he’s picked to even the teams. Meanwhile, Obama has spoken directly to me as an American. If he was all pro-black I would steer so far away from him you’d think I was wearing a klan outfit. I realized a long time ago that what’s best for black folks ain’t necessarily what’s best for this country. We need to handle our own business at this point, and the prez needs to handle the business of the country.

Private school vouchers? Why not just take that dang money and fix the public schools? Gas tax breaks? I’d rather pay more in the short to mid term and come up with a long term SOLUTION. McCain is full of gimmicks. This country is teetering on absolute destruction due to our deficit spending ways, and this cat’s willing to continue it so we can “feel” better. I can’t vote for that.

[aahhbigboy]

I can't disagree with anything you wrote Dooms. That was a really good read. I just hate that all of the candidates are so wishy washy on everything. Another thing is, we knew Bush was in the oil industry's pocket in 2000, but who's pockets are these candidates in? I'm leaning more towards Obama myself, but I can't stand the tax increases he plans for the rich while he also plans to expand the social programs at the same time. And what will he do about China literally raiding our industries? What will he do about the open borders? He has great speeches, but he rarely exposes any of his real plans. And most people don't care.

McCain on the other is talking really tough about downsizing government etc and improving education, but like you said, he looks like a character. HE doesn't even believe what he is saying! Have you seen this guy read off of the teleprompter? It's sickening. Let's not forget that he led the crusade to NOT have a MLK day in Arizona.

How can anyone be thrilled with the choices? I really like to hear what people have to say about Obama though. There are a lot of misconceptions out there about him.

[Aggie Monster]

I feel you, and I figured you wer just trying to spark some type of discussion.

First, let me explain why I DID NOT list my reason. To many for me to list at the time of posting. It was 9:44pm and I could have wrote 2 pages worth of stuff. If we were face to face I could talk about this thing for hours.

So now that I have some time. Let me run off a few. There will seem to be a lot of light harded humor in these, but I'm really serious.
Experience - McCain is a vet and POW. People keep saying that, but why does getting your face busted up qualify you to run a country. Thats like saying Fobbs would be a great coach for the Panthers. His ideas are just he same old thing for the past 8 eight years. Obama doesn't have a lot of experience, but with the main focus being "Change" in America I'd rather have new ideas than the same ol stuff. If he fails then at least he tried to help by trying new/different things


2)War- this is obvious. Got fooled going in by Bush. We need to leave. Obama says he will at lest try to leave. It may not be possible, but at least he is going to try.

Let me touch on the stuff Dooms mentioned.
Gas Tax Break Months during peak travel - Anyone who thinks this is a good idea is crazy. The gas companies will just raise prices during those months. How much will 1 person actually save over 3-4 months of no federal tax on gas. About $50/year?

I actually was on Hilary at first - Then I started listening to the guy. He just made sense all the time. Then Hilary blew it with the "Snyper Fire" comment. Let me tell you my turning point. When asked about a certain way to turn around the ecomony(cant rember the exact question) he answered with the following: "We tried that strategy before in Chicago. It Failed miserably and was a MISTAKE. so we went back and had to draw something else up". The at the FIRST time in my ENTIRE life I heard a politician admit he made a mistake without being force to do it. If you listen he does that quite often.

Iran and Global - Not talking to countries hasn't worked. It actually makes no sense. Talking doesn't mean that you are saying you will give them everything they want. But I dont see anything wrong with counter offering. but not talking at all? In what other setting would that work? I cant think of one. Not talking is like just hoping they will go away, which is not going to happen.

I just like the guy - he seems like he really wants to do a good job and he seems passionate about it.

I have to have reason NOT to vote for a black guy - with him being the "black candidate" he would have had to say something to mess himself up in my eyes. he hasn't done that yet. YES, I want to be able to tell my 4 year old son he can be President one day and actually believe it myself.


I could go on

[DOOMS]

Jul 17, 2008 8:02:40 GMT -5 aahhbigboy said:

I can't disagree with anything you wrote Dooms. That was a really good read. I just hate that all of the candidates are so wishy washy on everything. Another thing is, we knew Bush was in the oil industry's pocket in 2000, but who's pockets are these candidates in? I'm leaning more towards Obama myself, but I can't stand the tax increases he plans for the rich while he also plans to expand the social programs at the same time. And what will he do about China literally raiding our industries? What will he do about the open borders? He has great speeches, but he rarely exposes any of his real plans. And most people don't care.

McCain on the other is talking really tough about downsizing government etc and improving education, but like you said, he looks like a character. HE doesn't even believe what he is saying! Have you seen this guy read off of the teleprompter? It's sickening. Let's not forget that he led the crusade to NOT have a MLK day in Arizona.

How can anyone be thrilled with the choices? I really like to hear what people have to say about Obama though. There are a lot of misconceptions out there about him.

I was telling my wife the other day how ridiculous the taxes on the rich are. It's patently unfair already and Obama wants to make it worse. That I do not like. And I ain't even rich!!!! I just know fair from foul, and it's foul to play Robin Hood economics. Of course, this country has always played that way.

I do like the fact that he appears to be willing to enlist, heck, maybe even require, the help of every American in fixing this country. McCain seems to be willing to pretend to fix our problems for us. The fact that we don't want to take care of ourselves is one thing that is killing the character of this country. My belief is that Obama isn't exposing real plans because he plans to work our @sses to death. I don't mind, but again, I'm the barely middle class gov't worker that thinks overtaxing the rich is unfair. My opinions aren't quite normal.

I like the thought of expanding the social programs. I hate to put it like this, but we need fake jobs like when FDR hooked up the Works Progress Administration. People need to feel useful and need to make a contribution to the nation. I don’t really believe in handing people money they ain’t earned (see my comments on donating to the football team). But I do believe in paying people whatever you can afford or feel like paying them over a minimum wage.

In my conservative opinion, the country needs to quickly go back to emphasizing the family (married father, mother, and children) and get away from the poor morals we are mired in. While the Democratic Party generally supports poor morality (…cough…liberal…cough) issues, the Republican Party candidate is the one that’s living it. If the prez divorced his ex-wife who stood by waiting and praying while he was in Vietnam eating bread and getting tortured with unbottled Aquafina, why can’t the rest of the country get a divorce? How are you going to be the face of the party that espouses family values and you ain’t got none? Granted, Bush’s faithful @ss ain’t gotten us anywhere, but he’s been too busy getting his oil portfolio straight to worry about family values.

[aggielove]

Jul 17, 2008 8:02:40 GMT -5 aahhbigboy said:

He has great speeches, but he rarely exposes any of his real plans. And most people don't care.

aahhbigboy, most candidates running for office don't detail any real plans to the general public during speeches. They work in soundbites. The objective is to push forward a (VERY) general idea of what they would like to accomplish. What most folks fail to realize is that what they say is all propaganda. None of what they claim they'll do can get done without Congress, so you can whoop and holler all you want (unless you get that George bush, bash the Constitution upside the head, type of power as Pres).

[Bigboy]

A lot of us will simply vote for Obama because he is a black man (kinda-sorta) just to see history made.

[oleschoolaggie]

i intend to vote for obama but i'd like to know why he's not in favor of nuclear energy, i'm figuring its because of nuclear waste. i agree with obama that offshore drilling is not necessary, there's already plenty of land available for that. i'd like to know how he intends to pay for his health plan and middle class tax cuts. i think he was wrong about the iraq surge but made up for it by being right about afghanistan.

there's many reasons why i'll vote for obama but the most significant reason i'll vote for him is because he is very inspirational and extremely intelligent. the ability to inspire the masses can be very productive for the nation, his faith based initiatives can potentially make a tremendous difference in our communities. he has extremely favorable ratings in europe where many of our key allies reside. he has mass appeal in key parts of africa where there's potential oil deals awaiting his administration. an obama presidency would dramatically improve race relations in america and imagine how much "self-help" influence an obama presidency would have in crime ridden black communities all across the country.

last but not least, i would love to spend the next eight years looking at his lovely (translation: sho' nuf fine azz wife) wife, michelle obama, as the first lady... ;D