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Post by Aggie Monster on May 19, 2008 20:27:18 GMT -5
i think we need a standalone "corbett renovation fundraising campaign". i don't have a lot of money but i'd be the first to contribute what i could if it happened. the aggie club and victory club should continue doing what they do. but a corbett renovation fundraising campaign could be solely earmarked for that purpose alone and i think our alumni would be willing to donate funds. remember, you may have heard this first from oleschoolaggie! we're a year or two away from having the second or third worse basketball facility in the meac! (not to mention how we'll rank against all d1 schools) and if we don't act soon, we'll fall further and further behind our meac competition. in my opinion, only scsu and bcu will have worse basketball facilities than ours. if carolina can "completely" renovate carmichael auditorium just for women's basketball and at the same time modernize and maintain the dean dome, the least we could do is renovate our "primary" basketball facility. did I just hear another reference to UNC basketball on this board?
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Post by DECKS on May 19, 2008 22:21:51 GMT -5
Corbett Sports Center is fine. We got bigger fish to fry. We don't need a new building and we don't need another major renovation. Besides, if the bleachers are removed it will probably reduce seating capacity to 4,500. Like A.M. said, just add some flat panels.
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Post by aahhbigboy on May 20, 2008 6:55:23 GMT -5
Gotta agree. Maybe some minor updates, but a full scale renovation is not in order until that football disaster, at least, gets handled.
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Post by Bigboy on May 20, 2008 7:55:43 GMT -5
We just had major renovation done to the lower arena, including locker rooms, new training room, new sound system, new floor, improvement to the swimming pool and a few years ago we had air condition added. Before Renick left he was looking into getting a new scoreboard and big screen and someone to sponsor it. I was told that the engineers stated that the roof in Corbett would not be able to hold up the type scoreboard that we needed and that some renovations would have to be done to the roof to make it work. I don't know if that situation is still being looked into. Compared to the shape Corbett was in, I say 10 years ago, it is in pretty good shape now. Sure it (Corbett) could use further improvement but right now it is okay.
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Post by Bigboy on May 20, 2008 8:04:35 GMT -5
If we get enough money to renovate anything it should be Aggie Stadium. The press box, new paint job, lights on the practice field and I am sure there are other things that could be done to improve the stadium. I was told that they are thinking about paving under the bleachers where the rocks are right now. I know at one point they were considering adding additional seating but with the way we have been playing additional seating might not be neccesary.
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Post by B&GMM 80 on May 20, 2008 8:15:11 GMT -5
That is the most needed thing at this point
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Post by aggiejazz on May 20, 2008 9:49:35 GMT -5
My guess is we will hear this same subject, "remodeling Corbett Gym vs building a new arena", being loudly debated in 2028.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on May 20, 2008 13:46:00 GMT -5
Corbett Sports Center is fine. We got bigger fish to fry. We don't need a new building and we don't need another major renovation. Besides, if the bleachers are removed it will probably reduce seating capacity to 4,500. Like A.M. said, just add some flat panels. i'd rather see the seating improved before adding video panels. i advocated replacing the bleachers with newer more modern bleachers so that capacity would not be reduced. but if we can't replace the bleachers, we could at least have the upper bleacher sitting surfaces "padded" to improve comfort and appearance. my thing is this, we are so quick to complain about the quality of recruits eaves is able to bring in, but we don't seem to look at the factors that impact recruiting the most (facilities, exposure and financial resources). first we don't give the man a budget on par with the top 25% of the conference, then we expect him to out recruit programs that have larger budgets and better facilities. we talk about aggie pride, but we don't have enough pride to at least keep pace with the rest of the meac which is one of the least affluent conferences in all of division 1. even unc-g has a more modern facility than us and we wonder why they bring in better recruits than us? i guess we expect our basketball coaches to always overachieve. if we can't give the coaches an even playing field, then stop complaining when we don't get the best recruits and when we don't win championships. some of us are so extremely naïve. in case you haven't noticed, a&t has only had 4 winning basketball seasons in the last 20 years! count 'em! yes, 20 years, 4 winning seasons! doesn't that tell you something is drastically wrong with our program? and the 4 winning seasons were just "barely" winning seasons, our records were 17-10 ('91-corbett), 14-13 ('93-corbett), 16-14 ('94-capel), 15-13 ('97-thomas). other than that, "zero" winning records in the last 20 years! we're talking about a historic a&t program that completely "dominated" the meac in the 70's and 80's! during that time we had many 20 win seasons and single digit loss seasons. i'm so glad i was a student during the 80's when corbett center was brand new and the best arena in the conference! and in the 70's we played at the coliseum, again the best facility in the conference! so when folks tell me the quality of our facilities don't matter, that it doesn't substantially impact recruiting, i'd suggest you check our history! one thing about history, history doesn't lie! during the last 20 years, our coaches have been don corbett, jeff capel, roy thomas, curtis hunter, and jerry eaves. are you gonna to tell me all five of those coaches are solely responsible for our poor performance over 20 years! are you gonna tell me none of them can recruit? its been 20 years and five coaches, the only common denominator has been a&t itself. our program has steadily declined since 1989 and you can't blame the coaches! at least not all of them. aggies, we need to wake up and stop fooling ourselves! we need to get with the program! it’s the institution that needs correcting, not the coaches! if you want to place the responsibility for our success solely in the hands of the coach and not ourselves, then let's keep doing what we're doing and watch our program continue to decline. by far we've got the best following in the conference but keep losing and watch it decline. we can keep firing coaches until we finally find someone who can excel with less, but how long and how many losses will that take? we better enjoy bibbs while she's here because coaches of her stature only pass thru a&t once every 20 years!
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Post by Aggie Monster on May 20, 2008 15:07:04 GMT -5
our program has steadily declined since 1989 and you can't blame the coaches! at least not all of them. We went to the NCAA tournament in 94 and 95. Thats a.....lets see 2008-1995= 13 year decline. But actually, last year was on the incline, so remove one and we are....no WERE on a 12 year decline. Just messsing with you man, but I see your point.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on May 20, 2008 17:21:49 GMT -5
sorry i have to vent, but i'm so sick and tired of losing! i guess i'm too old school, i come from an era where winning the meac in basketball was a foregone conclusion for a&t. back in the day, there wasn't a single school in the conference (or out of conference for that matter) that could walk into corbett and leave with a "w". we talked mo' smack than anybody and we backed it up! we'd travel all over the meac, talked mo' trash than anybody and we backed it up! can't do that no mo'.
i live in the md/dc area and i swear, i can't remember the last time we beat howard in burr gym. i'm afraid to even check to see how long its been. almost every year aggies pack burr gym just to lose to the lowly bison. this year was no exception. i can't begin to tell you how frustrating that is!
i've bled aggie blue and gold since the very first day i set foot on campus and 'til this very day, i still do. i've followed aggie athletics all over this country for 20 plus years regardless of our record. i've donated my nickels and dimes throughout my alumni life. and i've finally reached a boiling point. i'm sick and tired of watching schools like delaware state win championships and we don't. since 1995, hampton has literally taken over the conference athletically. my wife is from hampton, so i'm tired of getting an ear full from them with nothing to fire back. even norfolk has surpassed us. by the way, hampton is basically responsible for the emergence of the meac. when they entered the league, they raised the bar. they had the attitude that the rest of ya'll can sit pat if you want, we're gonna invest in our facilities, coaches, and budgets and seek to establish a national profile. and sho' nuf, that's exactly what they did. now everybody else is trying to catch up, they started the "mini" athletic arms race in the meac. and if we're not careful, wssu will pull the same trick. wow, take a look at their facility upgrades…
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Post by aggiejazz on May 21, 2008 6:20:42 GMT -5
and if we're not careful, wssu will pull the same trick. wow, take a look at their facility upgrades… Checkout WSSU link and click on General Releases that shows WSSU facilities. It is a nice presentation. I hope this doesn't bring in "you know who", getupramz, with his/her dreaded comments about cheerleading. wssurams.cstv.com/genrel/gallery_index_sports.html#
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Post by Aggie Monster on May 21, 2008 7:22:34 GMT -5
Their facilities are still horrible right now, but I do like the slideshow. it makes their facilites look 10 times better than what they actually are. It's kind of funny how we are such a "technical" school, but we dont use technology to aid our objectives at A&T. Especially when it comes to web based marketing and promotion. I remember when I came I didn't even know where the pool was until we stumbled on it one night........I wont say what I was doing when I stumbled on it, but the fact is I didn't know. The interenet is the first place everyone looks now to get info. want to see what it looks like? Go to their site. Our facilites page has a total of 1 pic per facility and that pic is garbage. www.ncataggies.com/Facilities/home.htm brandmasta or Kev please tell Wheels that you will hook him upwith some nice shots. If I was in Greensboro I would do it.
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Post by Bornthrilla on May 21, 2008 7:57:42 GMT -5
You can say that again.
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Post by aahhbigboy on May 21, 2008 8:49:47 GMT -5
Their facilities are still horrible right now, but I do like the slideshow. it makes their facilites look 10 times better than what they actually are. It's kind of funny how we are such a "technical" school, but we dont use technology to aid our objectives at A&T. Especially when it comes to web based marketing and promotion. I remember when I came I didn't even know where the pool was until we stumbled on it one night........I wont say what I was doing when I stumbled on it, but the fact is I didn't know. The interenet is the first place everyone looks now to get info. want to see what it looks like? Go to their site. Our facilites page has a total of 1 pic per facility and that pic is garbage. www.ncataggies.com/Facilities/home.htm brandmasta or Kev please tell Wheels that you will hook him upwith some nice shots. If I was in Greensboro I would do it. I am not trying to be negative in this post, but this is something I often wonder about when so many are screaming for an increase in the budget, or in this case, facility upgrades. I really would like to know where I'm going wrong in my thinking (if I am). Why are so many people in favor of putting more money and responsibility in the hands of people who have and currently are making so many bonehead mistakes and decisions? I mean, we have people who just want to buy a Gold T-shirt and can't. Look at the link (in the quoted post) of our representation of new buildings, it's pathetic. I mean, at the end of the day, do we really even trust the people that would oversee these type of increases in money/facilities? Interested in your responses.
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Post by aggiejazz on May 21, 2008 9:51:31 GMT -5
Their facilities are still horrible right now, but I do like the slideshow. it makes their facilites look 10 times better than what they actually are. The interenet is the first place everyone looks now to get info. want to see what it looks like? Go to their site. Our facilites page has a total of 1 pic per facility and that pic is garbage. www.ncataggies.com/Facilities/home.htm brandmasta or Kev please tell Wheels that you will hook him upwith some nice shots. If I was in Greensboro I would do it. Dang Monster, you are right about the Aggie athletic site with the awful facilities pics. It is like a high school website. A&T has a great looking gym floor in Corbett and the fitness center is nice inside. You need the homecoming pics, along with pics of the big track meets and soldout BB games. Photographers call the athletic department, quick and in a hurry. Don't forget to put pictures of our fine Volleyball team on the site, especially pictures of the team two years ago. ;D
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