JayBee
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Post by JayBee on May 13, 2008 13:34:31 GMT -5
What the helll does Bill Cosby have to do with A&T? Bill Cosby has not donated one thin dime to A&T. This has got to be a joke!!!! I heard Bill has invested some nice cash into A&T for the Dowdy scholarship program and the Cosby Kids program. Bill and Dr. Battle have been friends for years. That's how he was able to get Bill to speak at commencement this year.
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Post by AggiePride on May 13, 2008 15:30:06 GMT -5
All I know Renick was responsible for drastic cuts in scholarships All I know is faculty were not pleased with direction he was taking school All I know is our academic reputation took hit, I will admit this was not all his responsibility All I know is he brought in all these administrators from PWCs that did not understand the dynamics of working at HBCU. All I know is our athletic department has still not recovered from his choices All I know is he hired his daughter to manage Williams Cafetria All I know is he was instrumental in using the farm land to house this school nanotechnology with UNCG- which if you ask me is a very suspect. Everybody always talk out Engineering and Business being the most important academic departments at our university, while I argue it is the Agriculture school. Think about.... All I know is we did not achieve the goal of $100 million endowment
But oh yeah Renick was the best we ever had...
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Post by aggiejazz on May 13, 2008 15:39:37 GMT -5
What the helll does Bill Cosby have to do with A&T? Bill Cosby has not donated one thin dime to A&T. This has got to be a joke!!!! I heard Bill has invested some nice cash into A&T for the Dowdy scholarship program and the Cosby Kids program. Bill and Dr. Battle have been friends for years. That's how he was able to get Bill to speak at commencement this year. Well, last weekend would had been a great time to announce Mr. Cosby's donation amount. I hear Mr. Cosby's name attached to several A&T projects to help students but no dollar amount has been mentioned. His donation amounts have been announced in the past at other universities so what gives with A&T?
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Post by JayBee on May 13, 2008 21:23:07 GMT -5
I heard Bill has invested some nice cash into A&T for the Dowdy scholarship program and the Cosby Kids program. Bill and Dr. Battle have been friends for years. That's how he was able to get Bill to speak at commencement this year. Well, last weekend would had been a great time to announce Mr. Cosby's donation amount. I hear Mr. Cosby's name attached to several A&T projects to help students but no dollar amount has been mentioned. His donation amounts have been announced in the past at other universities so what gives with A&T? So I wonder where this cash is coming from to spearhead these projects? I know it's not cash we already had!
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Post by Aggie77 on May 13, 2008 21:34:50 GMT -5
All I know Renick was responsible for drastic cuts in scholarships All I know is faculty were not pleased with direction he was taking school All I know is our academic reputation took hit, I will admit this was not all his responsibility All I know is he brought in all these administrators from PWCs that did not understand the dynamics of working at HBCU. All I know is our athletic department has still not recovered from his choices All I know is he hired his daughter to manage Williams Cafetria All I know is he was instrumental in using the farm land to house this school nanotechnology with UNCG- which if you ask me is a very suspect. Everybody always talk out Engineering and Business being the most important academic departments at our university, while I argue it is the Agriculture school. Think about.... All I know is we did not achieve the goal of $100 million endowment But oh yeah Renick was the best we ever had... All of these things may be true, and I don't see where any one has stated he was the best ever, but he was Chancellor of NC A&T SU and that cannot be changed and should not be omitted from any document, video or publication dealing with the Presidential history of NC A&T SU, not even mass murder, drug trafficking or child porn can do that. If Chancellor Battle is attempting erase Dr. Renick’s legacy good or bad then his focus is not on the progression of NC A&T SU and is leadership will be called into question. If there is not an immediate direct public written response to Alumni President Johnson’s letter, then the message is loud and clear.
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Post by JayBee on May 13, 2008 21:59:39 GMT -5
All of these things may be true, and I don't see where any one has stated he was the best ever, but he was Chancellor of NC A&T SU and that cannot be changed and should not be omitted from any document, video or publication dealing with the Presidential history of NC A&T SU, not even mass murder, drug trafficking or child porn can do that. If Chancellor Battle is attempting erase Dr. Renick’s legacy good or bad then his focus is not on the progression of NC A&T SU and is leadership will be called into question. If there is not an immediate direct public written response to Alumni President Johnson’s letter, then the message is loud and clear. Yeah, he needs to do that real soon. I believe he's a good Chancellor...I just hope he wasn't bamboozled into doing such an evil act!
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Post by AggiePride on May 13, 2008 22:20:17 GMT -5
I never advocated for his legacy to be erased. I think Renick was excellent at public relations and he did do a great job of capitalizing and highlighting A&T's strengths. But I am still not sure about his administrative decisions. Fort was a good administrator, but did not relate well to alumni and students. Personally, I would rather have a strong administrator that makes sound decisions for the university.
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Post by Aggie77 on May 14, 2008 8:28:48 GMT -5
I never advocated for his legacy to be erased. I think Renick was excellent at public relations and he did do a great job of capitalizing and highlighting A&T's strengthen. But I am still not sure about his administrative decisions. Fort was a good administrator, but did not relate well to alumni and students. Personally, I would rather have a strong administrator that makes sound decisions for the university. 1. All I know Renick was responsible for drastic cuts in scholarships 2. All I know is faculty were not pleased with direction he was taking school 3. All I know is our academic reputation took hit, I will admit this was not all his responsibility 4. All I know is he brought in all these administrators from PWCs that did not understand the dynamics of working at HBCU. 5. All I know is our athletic department has still not recovered from his choices 6. All I know is he hired his daughter to manage Williams Cafetria 7. All I know is he was instrumental in using the farm land to house this school nanotechnology with UNCG- which if you ask me is a very suspect. Everybody always talk out Engineering and Business being the most important academic departments at our university, while I argue it is the Agriculture school. Think about.... 8. All I know is we did not achieve the goal of $100 million endowment 9. But oh yeah Renick was the best we ever had... So then, which one of the above items support, "Renick was excellent at public relations and he did do a great job of capitalizing and highlighting A&T's strengthen." Maybe its the sarcastic comment at the end, but I’m confused, are you now saying you disagree with his omission. I don’t see how it can be perceived as anything but totally anti-Renick and that you support what happened. I have issues with the failures of the Renick Administration but the actions of the current Administration shouldn’t be applauded, who’s next LC Dowdy or maybe JO Crosby?
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Post by AggiePride on May 14, 2008 8:57:36 GMT -5
Yeah that comment was meant to be sarcastic. But again did my post say anything about removing his legacy? I only pointed out things that I thought were problematic during his tenure, in response to Bigboy's comment that I did not know anything about Renick. If you notice, there was a limited critique of Fort too. But I guess you cannot be critical of someone and still respect that they did do some good things for A&T.
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Post by Bigboy on May 14, 2008 9:02:29 GMT -5
AggiePride, once again you have proven that you don't know a damn thing about what Renick did here at A&T. Everything you listed was not even close to being correct. If you are going to comment on people, make sure you have your facts and that you know what you are talking about. The list you made was just a bunch of "grapevine" BS. I am only going to comment on 2 things you listed. As far as the capital campaign, no we have not raised $1,000,000 but money is still coming in and I know this for a fact. Even if we only raise 85Mil I think that most aggies think that is damn good. As for Renick hiring his daughter. His daughter was hired by Sedexso (I'm not sure about the spelling) as their events person not to manage anything. You might not like the man but at least get your facts straight.
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Post by Bigboy on May 14, 2008 9:12:36 GMT -5
Cosby has not given A&T any money. We paid him to come here last weekend. From what I understand Cosby has not given money to any state supported school (correct me if I am wrong).
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Post by AggiePride on May 14, 2008 9:14:04 GMT -5
YOu are right about the 85 million and the vision he had to start the capital campaign. Honestly, you do not think he had any influence getting her that position?
If I am so wrong them disprove it. Since you addressed only two, I will address only two. You can't deny that they closed chancellor's scholar program during his tenure. Rumblings around campus were that he Dean Craig of the B-school did not exactly see eye to eye and that Renick tried to have him removed. But Dean Craig's connections with the state and the business community made that unsuccessful.
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Post by Bigboy on May 14, 2008 11:46:27 GMT -5
If my dad was the chancellor I would hope he used his influence to help me get a job, thats the way of the world. I don't know about that removing Craig stuff. It would be impossible to remove him anyway because he is tenured. I know Renick was all for naming the new building in Craig's name. There will always be disagreement and debate about what Renick did or did not do (good or bad) for A&T. All I know is a lot of people wish he was still at A&T. I do agree that he made some bad decisions as it relates to athletics and he admitted to those bad decisions before he left A&T.
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Post by Freeze on May 14, 2008 15:25:26 GMT -5
Cosby has not given A&T any money. We paid him to come here last weekend. From what I understand Cosby has not given money to any state supported school (correct me if I am wrong). The one state school that I know for a fact he has given money to is Cheyney State which is right outside of Philadelphia. However, I am pretty sure he has given money to others. Education (and particularly education at HBCU's) is kinda his thing in case you didn't know. Did anyone attend graduation and if so, how did Cosby do?
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Post by DIEHARDAGGIE on May 14, 2008 15:52:56 GMT -5
He gave an excellent speech
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