Post by The Professor on Nov 1, 2007 9:57:50 GMT -5
Just because it ain't like it used to be get over it. Take the small victories and move on.
Apathy is at an all time high
ap·a·thy –noun, plural -thies. 1. absence or suppression of passion, emotion, or excitement. 2. lack of interest in or concern for things that others find moving or exciting.
That would be a negative sir. I have alot of passion and excitement.
I guess I just don't understand. We draw more fans than small DI schools and most in D1-AA. But people still aren't happy. So Haze, what numbers would you like to see, and besides winning how do we get there
Post by Aggie Monster on Nov 1, 2007 12:16:35 GMT -5
Those aren't bad numbers at all. i got to give it to who scheduled that stuff. Homecoming was on the perfect day, because if we had homecoming against Del State then the BCC game would have been about 4000.
The weather was always good also.
How much of that is students and comps? Thats makes a difference. i guess 4XLAGGIE might have those numbers. Where you at man?
Dont forget that dismall last game from 2006. Attendence was horrible.
So Haze, what numbers would you like to see, and besides winning how do we get there
Given the size and passion of our fanbase, I don't see any reason why we should not average 19-20k a game.
Now I'm not a marketing man, so when you say "besides winning" I don't have many answers. I do know that if we were winning, Homecoming which we were putting in 35k and a home NCCU game that we were averaging over 30k a game in would be a sellout in Aggie Stadium.
With two games at 23k it wouldn't be hard to average 19k over five. You really would only have to average 16k over the other 3.
Also, let's not forget that the student population has increased dramatically over the last 15 years. Give the students, alumni and locals an exciting, attractive team and the seats would be full again.
The 35 K thing has only happened maybe 3 times. 2001, The HU overtime game and I believe 99. Other than than 30 K was the best. And again we are not going to get that with the track.
As long as we keep playing these thurs night games at home, its not going to happpen. The majority of fans are not going to sit in a stadium til 10:30 on a school night.
Also. The student body doesn't atttend the games like that. Maybe 1500 fans ( not cheerleaders, band etc.) come to games.
You're missing my point about the Homecoming attendance in the past. I understand that we won't be able to put 35k into Aggie Stadium anymore. My point is that there was an interest and excitement that lead to 30-35k people wanting to be there. If there was a demand for 30-35k surely we should be able to get 23k.
I also don't have a problem with the Thursday night games. I'm down here in GA and all I'm hearing about is the game tonight (GT vs VT). There is a buzz and excitement about it.
Now that's where the marketing comes into play, but just like we get the students excited to come to Corbett for the Monday night basketball games on ESPNU we should be able to get them excited about coming to Thursday night football games on ESPNU.
But, again nobody wants to come and watch us get beat the devil out of time and time again.
Post by aggieman007 on Nov 1, 2007 17:39:39 GMT -5
Major donor backs Briggs; WCU fans mixed fans mixed by Keith Jarrett published November 1, 2007 12:16 pm
ASHEVILLE — A former Western Carolina player who has pledged $1 million to the football program said he would not support removing Kent Briggs as coach of the Catamounts.
Advertisement Teddy Phillips Jr., of Knoxville, who played with Briggs at WCU in the 1970s and said the coach “is a good friend of mine,” made the donation earlier this year as an endowed scholarship.
“In my opinion, (Briggs) is the guy to turn the program around,” said Phillips, who was a member of a task force formed by athletic director Chip Smith to look into ways of making the football program successful.
“I would disagree with any attempt” to buy out Briggs’ contract, Phillips said.
“The program is not doing what we would like it to do, but it takes a while to turn a program around,” said Phillips. “Continuity is what it takes.”
Phillips said there were contingencies attached to the scholarship in terms of students meeting a certain grade-point average and being a construction management major, but said there was no contingency regarding Briggs’ continued employment.
Briggs has a 22-41 record in his six seasons with the Cats and has won just once in his last 18 games over the past two seasons.
He has a 12-30 record in the Southern Conference and has lost 13 straight league games over three seasons.
WCU (1-8, 0-5) has games remaining against Appalachian State and Furman.
Briggs is in the first year of a three-year contract extension given last year by Smith. The team is 2-17 since the extension was granted one game into the 2006 season.
Briggs, Smith and the school’s sports information office did not return several messages seeking comment.
In an interview with the Citizen-Times on Oct. 20, Smith declined to offer assurances about Briggs’ job status through the end of this season or beyond.
“It’s hard to say,” Smith said. “We’re playing almost well enough to win but we’re not winning, and we’re here to win. … I learned a long time ago not to talk in absolutes.”
On that same day, Briggs indicated he would not resign. “I always preach to our players to never quit and to keep fighting,” he said.
“If I were to do anything less than that, I’d be a hypocrite.”
Some WCU fans in attendance at the Oct. 25 home game vs. Wofford were calling for a change.
“There’s a lack of leadership and commitment, and it starts at (chancellor John Bardo’s) office,” said Van Stayton, of Alpharetta, Ga., a former WCU player who said he is a longtime supporter of the program.
“Winners have commitments, losers have excuses.”
“Something needs to change,” said Mark Reeser of Sylva, a former WCU athlete. “We’re in a downturn with the program, and we’re not being competitive in the Southern Conference. We’re not moving in the right direction.”
Like Phillips, other fans don’t think a change is necessary.
“Coach Briggs has a good system, he just doesn’t have the players to run it,” said Bill Millwood, of Black Mountain, a 1998 WCU graduate.
“We could be a lot better than we are, but I think we are going in the right direction. Recruiting is where we are hurting.”
A total buyout of Briggs’ final two years on his contract would cost $221,646.
The total buyout of assistant coaches Myron Jackson, David Napert and Don Powers — who received three-year extensions at the same time as Briggs — would cost an additional $296,000.
Briggs and Smith each said last year that there were no provisions to void the contract early based on a minimum number of wins expected or required.
Post by Aggie Monster on Nov 2, 2007 7:53:35 GMT -5
That's total attendance, not average. We've played 5 home games.
68% capacity... Lot of room for improvement
Well lets get some ideas here to make it better. We got "marketing man" on the board on the regular. Maybe this stuff will trickle up the food chain.
Let me start: I'm not in Greensboro often, but I can get the radio stations when I'm on the closer side of raleigh. and i dont here Aggie football being advertised often. Most HBCUs suffer the same problem. I live in Raliegh and never know who NCCU, Shaw, or St Aug are playing. We have the aggie email newsletter that goes out using Bronto(similiar to Constant Contact) every couple of weeks. Why cant we send one thats only for sports? Its already in place and shouldn't cost a lot for one more weekly send. There is a athletic section, but its very small at the bottom. Cheap, can easily be forwarded, and alot of info can be displayed. How many people you thinnk got the word about the $5 game? I only got it from this board.