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Post by natedizzle on Oct 30, 2007 9:41:31 GMT -5
Does anyone know how much it would take to buy out fobbs? These are just my estimations of what i think we lost this year because of low turnout due to Fobbs. This is based on 20.00 tickets.
opponent Actual Would be diff. Hampton 12547 18000 -5453 ($109,060.00) Central 19320 25000 -5680 ($113,600.00) Norfolk St.9409 16000 -6591 ($131,820.00) Delaware St.9934 15000 -5066 ($101,320.00) homecoming20000 25000 -5000 ($100,000.00) avg 14242 19800 -27790 ($555,800.00) total loss
This does not include loss revenue due to parking, vendor sales, and loss advertisement dollars because no one wanting to advertise their product with us due to low attendance. There are probably many other financial losses that fobbs performance has impacted that i am not aware of. My point is this. Is a buyout of a 165K contract more to burden than 500k-800K in other losses?
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Post by JeffAggieFan on Oct 30, 2007 11:28:42 GMT -5
Norfolk was a Thursday night game so I can't blame all of it on Fobbs but otherwise good points taken
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Post by The Professor on Oct 30, 2007 11:45:45 GMT -5
The points are understanable but not based on numbers. Also our stadium hold 23,500. And it will not be any higher because of the track
Year HmGames Total Att. Avg 06 5 57,979 11,596 05 4 58,438 14,610 04 N/A 03 4 64,262 16,066 02 5 83,988 16,798 01 4 65,017 16,254 00 4 59,758 14,940 99 6 131,726 21,954 98 5 79,842 15,968
With an average of 14K, we are doing better than last year and about the same in Fobbs first year. And 1500 away from 00-03 avg. So attendence isn't that bad. What we need to do is stop playing those thurs night games which no one is watching anyway
BTW, 19K avg on home attendence is a joke. It won't happen. We had almost 22K and that was with Homecoming at like 40 K plus the FAMU game when the 100 came for the MEAC championship which was 35K. Again they will not let crowds like that into Aggie Stadium anymore becasue of the track
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Post by aggiejazz on Oct 30, 2007 12:58:43 GMT -5
The points are understanable but not based on numbers. Also our stadium hold 23,500. And it will not be any higher because of the track The people in charge has had three years to figure out how to protect the track for events such as homecoming at a resonable cost. A&T is a technical institution surely a group of Aggies can figure out a cost effective measure to protect the track for events that can generate cash. I say call your AD and find out if her department has been working on finding a solution.
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Post by bluehaze on Oct 30, 2007 13:34:06 GMT -5
Professor, Why are you posting those numbers after Dex showed you '03 was skewed?
07 5 71,200 14,242 (0-forever) 06 5 57,979 11,596 (0-11) 05 4 58,438 14,610 (3-8) 04 4 56,918 14,230 (3-8) 03 4 81,563 20,390 (10-3) 02 5 83,988 16,798 (4-8) 01 4 65,017 16,254 (8-3) 00 4 59,758 14,940 (8-3) 99 6 131,726 21,954 (11-2) 98 5 79,842 15,968 (8-3)
Looks to me that the two highest years in attendance were the two year with double digit wins. And the track was there in '03 so 19k IS NOT a pie in the sky number.
Also, Homecoming which you said would be a sellout wasn't even close.
Again, there are temporary bleachers (which we used in '04 or '05) we just didn't sell the seats out and it cost us money.
There is an apathy growing in AggieLand.
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Post by The Professor on Oct 31, 2007 12:42:39 GMT -5
Those numbers came from the NCAA. They have the official record and that's why I reposted it. Until its changed thats what I'm going by. And I haven't seen anyone sit on the track since it was installed.
Over the last 10 years we have avg over 20K twice. And out the the other 8, 3 were winning seasons. So why would u think 19K is a number that we can hit every year? Hell, 50 D-IA teams don't avg that
Attendence for homecoming was 20,013. A sellout is 23,000. so we were less than 3K from a sellout. Not close? ok. Not close is NSU who stadium holds 30K and the had 16 K there that's not close
Like I keep saying, I don't really care for Fobbs just like the rest of you. But sooner or later you and everyone else will realize that we can not afford to fire him. If all these angry folk would talk with their pocket and not with their mouth we would have money to buy him out. I ask anyone, to really find out that we're broke come to an Aggie Club meeting in the fieldhouse on Mon @ 7:30.
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Post by bluehaze on Oct 31, 2007 12:53:23 GMT -5
A&T AD to review homecoming prices By Rob Daniels Staff Writer
Thursday, Oct. 20, 2005 3:00 am GREENSBORO -- N.C. A&T athletics director Dee Todd said this week she intends to discuss reducing the cost of the school's homecoming football game tickets from the national-high figures of $50 and $45 charged last week.
"With six home games next year, I think we can reasonably look at what we're doing," said Todd, who assumed her post on June 15 -- several months after the 2005 prices had been established. "We have heard comments."
A&T almost certainly pulled in a record amount in ticket revenue for this past Saturday's 23-13 loss to Delaware State. The university has not yet tallied the amount.
But there is some concern that sticker shock curtailed attendance, which fell about 2,500 fans below average for a homecoming game. As a result, A&T's investment in temporary bleachers did not pay off.
Anticipating extraordinary ticket demand, A&T imported 3,100 additional seats at a cost of about $50,000, said Angela Peterson, a university accountant. The extra seats increased Aggie Stadium's capacity from its published size of 21,500 to 24,600.
Attendance was reported at 22,137, which suggests only 637 of the additional 3,100 tickets were purchased. At that rate, A&T lost about $21,335 on the temporary seats.
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Post by The Professor on Oct 31, 2007 16:56:54 GMT -5
Oh so if Todd wouldn't have brought in the bleachers we would of had a sellout. Again I said I didn't see them, so I have no idea. I have season tickets but I tailgated all day in my spots and gave my tickets to friends.
I not understanding the point Haze. Attendence is up over the last two years and thats without winning a game. Damn impressive to me
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Post by bluehaze on Oct 31, 2007 17:53:50 GMT -5
I not understanding the point Haze. Attendence is up over the last two years and thats without winning a game. Damn impressive to me Attendance is not up What numbers are you looking at? What factors are you using? With Homecoming and the Central game at home there is no way that attendance should be at 14k. There should be two guaranteed sellouts every year. Homecoming and WSSU Homecoming and NCCU Neither NCCU or Homecoming were sold out. Therefore attendance is down. Maybe I understand why I'm confused with your position. You must spend alot of time tailgating. Anybody who has spent time inside the game for a Homecoming can tell that there used to be an overflow of people under the bleachers and you still couldn't get a seat. Now if you think the same amout of people are coming to games and you are just going to ignore the 2 years over 20k and the fact that NCCU was averaging 30k+ in a neutral stadium then so be it.
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Post by bluehaze on Oct 31, 2007 18:00:23 GMT -5
"Man I wish Blue Haze would stop complaining about attendance. I'm sure those people love all that leg room."
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Post by The Professor on Oct 31, 2007 20:18:18 GMT -5
Tha attendance for this year:
12,547 Hampton 19,320 NCCU 9,409 NSU 9,934 DSU 22,137 BCC - Homecoming
Which gives u an average of 14,669 people a game. Last year's avg attendance was 11,596 which gives us an increase of 3,073 fans. We also outdrew 05 by 59 fans. For all u math majors out there, that means ATTENDANCE IS UP. Maybe not a lot but its still a positive.
Bottom line dude, I predicted 71,200 for the year and we hit 73,257. Just because it ain't like it used to be get over it. Take the small victories and move on. And who says WSSU, NCCU, or Homecoming should be sellouts. Hell, most people were out there with me Tailgating. ( AND I HAD TICKETS)
If there is one thing I know about REAL AGGIE fans, they will always come. They might not be happy but they will be there. That's why I buy season tickets and pay my aggie club dues. Because it doesn't matter if we win or whose coaching. I will always be there physically and financially to support my alma mater. And I hope the same for u and everyone else on the board
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Post by bluehaze on Oct 31, 2007 21:31:22 GMT -5
Just because it ain't like it used to be get over it. Take the small victories and move on. Apathy is at an all time high
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Post by 4XLAGGIE on Nov 1, 2007 7:09:12 GMT -5
Professor, those numbers are incorrect. Wherever they came from...
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Post by Aggie Monster on Nov 1, 2007 7:16:54 GMT -5
So what are they then? Why keep them to yourself?
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Post by The Professor on Nov 1, 2007 9:51:26 GMT -5
Professor, those numbers are incorrect. Wherever they came from... My numbers came from the NCAA. Please find the correct ones and post them. Thanks. Hey, my numbers are the same that are in the first post with the adding of the homecoming total from the News and Record. So I guess Nate is wrong to
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