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Post by aggierattler on Sept 24, 2012 21:18:03 GMT -5
I understand everyone's point, but I think this form of broadcasting will be phasing itself out soon enough, so I NO LONGER(and I did support a change previously) see a need for a change just to make a change. They are dedicated Aggies, so let them finish up their stint with pride. The video webcast will soon be on everyone's phone, TV, and any other device connected to the internet and radio broadcast of ANY game will go by the waste side. I'm fine with them heading up that transition until radio broadcast of live games fade away. It will happen as soon as advertisers see the benefits of advertising on an app/browser over advertising on the radio. What I would have a issue with is if they switch them to the internet broadcast if/when radio starts to die. as usual, i disagree. folk in their vehicles on game day don't access the internet. and, not all people use the internet to listen to aggie football, especially older folks. besides, we don't even webcast every game. the "easiest" and most accessible way to listen to the game is by radio and radio ain't going away anytime soon. if anything, radio is "expanding", not fading away. i have sirius xm satellite radio in my vehicle and i listen to it every day. a lot of college football games are broadcasted by satellite radio which can be accessed anywhere in the country. in the future, there will be more sports on radio, not less. trust me, soon the day will come where you can access any radio station in the country by satellite. it's just a matter of time. radio will always be there and that's why every vehicle sold has a radio in it. a driver can't watch the internet while driving and it'll be a very long time before every vehicle has internet access. so i don't think we can afford to wait this thing out. our guys try hard, but trying hard is no longer good enough. when people hear a school's radio broadcasts, the quality of that broadcast has a direct reflection on the school. what do you think outsiders think of a&t when they hear our football announcers on the radio? those announcers represent our "public voice" to the general community and right now our "public voice" is not a voice that most of us can be proud of. i swear, i'd be so embarrassed if i knew folk from other schools heard our broadcasts. our annoucer's calls are inaccurate, their pronunciation of words are gawd awful, and they sound like they're broadcasting from the local barber shop. no, we've waited long enough. its time for a change. do it with dignity, but do it... I desperately tried to get us, as a conference, hooked up with XM for our football game broadcasts back in 2001, but it was fought by several schools.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Sept 25, 2012 7:25:36 GMT -5
Those that think XM is thriving is highly mistaken. Losing money every year.
You may not be able to watch in your car, but that same broadcast will be used for both video and audio and cars are coming equipped with internet via phones now. I'm not saying radio will be dead in 2 years, but the way games are broadcast is changing. Put the time and energy into that. If those guys are really doing pro-bono like people say they are not going anywhere.
I still think they stink. My opinion there hasn't changed.
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Post by aggiebred09 on Sept 25, 2012 8:06:33 GMT -5
Why would A&T want the radio broadcast to be better? How much money do we get from radio? The way they see it, if you are in radio broadcast range, your arse should be in Aggie Stadium anyway.
XM, Satlilite, Internet all options cost money and when you cant even sell out a stadium why push funding into broadcasting.
Lets have this conversation after a year or so.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 25, 2012 8:13:07 GMT -5
When I lived in Texas, I would listen to all the A&T games via the WNAA website broadcast.
After a while, I just decided to wait until ESPN showed the score later that night on the bottom screen ticker. It was that brutal.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Sept 25, 2012 8:28:54 GMT -5
Why would A&T want the radio broadcast to be better? because our radio broadcasts are reflective and representative of a&t. and anything that is reflective and representative of a&t influences a&t's image, student recruitment, and corporate sponsorships. also, radio broadcasts do not discourage attendance at aggie stadium because you can't see the game by listening to the radio. radio broadcasts encourages attendance for those who otherwise would not come had they not heard it on the radio. if anything, the internet "webcasts" of our home games discourage attendance because you can see and hear the game in comfort of your own home, but that's a topic for a whole new conversation. my thing is this. my high school radio broadcasts are of "far better quality" than my college alma mater's are. just like a&t's main website and athletic website gives the general public a "perception" of the quality of our institution, so does our radio broadcasts. just like somebody else already mentioned, would you want a potential high school student who's considering enrolling at a&t to hear our broadcasts? would you want corporations who you're seeking sponsorships from to hear our broadcasts? i certainly wouldn't want our hbcu rivals to hear our broadcasts. we are an ncaa division 1 institution and our radio broadcasts do not meet what i would consider "standard" quality for a division 1 institution, not even close. nccu's broadcasts puts our broadcasts to shame. and i've listened to many other hbcu football broadcasts and i've never heard one that's worse than ours. its embarrassing! and anything that's embarrassing for a&t is not good for a&t...
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Post by marchingband1969 on Sept 25, 2012 9:16:36 GMT -5
Why would A&T want the radio broadcast to be better? How much money do we get from radio? The way they see it, if you are in radio broadcast range, your arse should be in Aggie Stadium anyway. XM, Satlilite, Internet all options cost money and when you cant even sell out a stadium why push funding into broadcasting. Lets have this conversation after a year or so. The time is now to have this conversation. This problem has gone on for decades and it's got to stop. Ignoring it or waiting for the current radio crew to finally decide to quit isn't the answer. They have been bad for years and they didn't realize it was time to quit. There is no disagreement by anyone on this site or for that matter anyone that has ever listen to a game broadcast that our radio crew is a joke. So why are we so willing to ignore it? I know that these guys have their hearts in the right place but they are starting to have a negative impact on A&T and it's athletic program. I say honor them at Homecoming, have them come out on the field and wave to the crowd and then shut off their mikes for the rest of the year! Let WNAA play music instead during the games and periodacally give an update of the football score. That would be better than what we have now. And hire a whole new crew to kick off the 2013 football season.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Sept 25, 2012 9:52:37 GMT -5
Why would A&T want the radio broadcast to be better? How much money do we get from radio? The way they see it, if you are in radio broadcast range, your arse should be in Aggie Stadium anyway. XM, Satlilite, Internet all options cost money and when you cant even sell out a stadium why push funding into broadcasting. Lets have this conversation after a year or so. Nothing wrong with being proactive. I agree about radio, but we should be pushing internet. We already do internet, so no extra cost there. Just add one broadcast person. Like almost every other university we go through NeuLion, so they absorb a lot of the technical cost, but also take most of the revenue. If we could figure out a way to generate more revenue that goes around NeuLion like commercial breaks for sponsors then it could yield a few more dollars. XM, it would probably have to be a conference deal like aggierattler said. marchingband, boy you are harsh, LOL.
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Post by aggierattler on Sept 25, 2012 13:31:52 GMT -5
Those that think XM is thriving is highly mistaken. Losing money every year. You may not be able to watch in your car, but that same broadcast will be used for both video and audio and cars are coming equipped with internet via phones now. I'm not saying radio will be dead in 2 years, but the way games are broadcast is changing. Put the time and energy into that. If those guys are really doing pro-bono like people say they are not going anywhere. I still think they stink. My opinion there hasn't changed. Yes...right now they are losing money (and I have plenty of XM stock to prove it). However, it is the wave of the future. Pretty soon all cars will be equipped with some form of satellite communications...including satellite radio. As it stands now, it would not be cost-effective for individual schools to use XM/S for their games, but it would work for whole conferences to use them, as all of the major FBS conferences do now.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Sept 25, 2012 14:02:41 GMT -5
Those that think XM is thriving is highly mistaken. Losing money every year. You may not be able to watch in your car, but that same broadcast will be used for both video and audio and cars are coming equipped with internet via phones now. I'm not saying radio will be dead in 2 years, but the way games are broadcast is changing. Put the time and energy into that. If those guys are really doing pro-bono like people say they are not going anywhere. I still think they stink. My opinion there hasn't changed. Yes...right now they are losing money (and I have plenty of XM stock to prove it). However, it is the wave of the future. Pretty soon all cars will be equipped with some form of satellite communications...including satellite radio. As it stands now, it would not be cost-effective for individual schools to use XM/S for their games, but it would work for whole conferences to use them, as all of the major FBS conferences do now. They will be, but only a mobile devices such as a phone connected to your car via bluetooth will allow you to continue to listen and/or watch the moment you step out of the car. Trust me, thats the new wave of the future when it comes to broadcasting in cars. It's through your phone. Toyota/Lexus has already started it with Pandora. All phone apps will be transferable/displayed to your car dashboard soon.
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Post by aggiedog on Sept 25, 2012 22:34:14 GMT -5
What Victory Club ? It's my understanding the Victory Club in now incorporated within the Aggie Athletic Foundation.
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Post by aggiebred09 on Sept 26, 2012 8:26:05 GMT -5
I agree Ole School, Band1969 and Monster that the quality is horrible. I also agree that in terms of the "A&T Product" we cant sound like bammas in any form of communication including radio.
What I am saying is that while we do need to improve our broadcast for those not in attendance, we are failing at actually filling the stands. Putting everything into perspective, A&T gets more bang for its buck trying to fill the stands as opposed to filling the airwaves.
AS mentioned by several posters I say put together a hall of fame alumni, a young buck from the communications and see what happens. Both will do it for free.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Sept 26, 2012 9:37:40 GMT -5
Yes...right now they are losing money (and I have plenty of XM stock to prove it). However, it is the wave of the future. Pretty soon all cars will be equipped with some form of satellite communications...including satellite radio. As it stands now, it would not be cost-effective for individual schools to use XM/S for their games, but it would work for whole conferences to use them, as all of the major FBS conferences do now. They will be, but only a mobile devices such as a phone connected to your car via bluetooth will allow you to continue to listen and/or watch the moment you step out of the car. Trust me, thats the new wave of the future when it comes to broadcasting in cars. It's through your phone. Toyota/Lexus has already started it with Pandora. All phone apps will be transferable/displayed to your car dashboard soon. an automobile "driver" will never be able to watch a game in his car while driving. that i can assure you will never happen until they create automobiles that can drive themselves automatically. and even then, it probably wouldn't be safe to trust a self driving automobile. trust me, i've tried watching an aggie football game using my smart phone while on the road and you literally can't "safely" drive while watching a game or anything else other than the road. for that reason alone, they are not gonna take radios out of automobiles and it don't matter how many advanced mobile devices they create. i have all of the "latest" communication technologies "factory installed" in my vehicle including bluetooth, satellite, gps, all of that stuff. so i can speak from experience. it ain't no way in hail a person will "solely" rely on their phone for broadcasting of any kind in their vehicle. cuz what happens if you lose or misplace your phone? how are you gonna listen to any kind of broadcasting from your automobile without your phone if you have to rely on it to operate your dashboard? what are they gonna do, install "backup" radios? ain't nobody building any vehicles that don't have radios in them and they never will. you can only listen when you're driving, you can't stare at a screen to watch a game without jeopardizing your life and other people's lives. radio is here to stay...
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 26, 2012 10:11:28 GMT -5
Donald Ware is the answer to this problem. Cut him a check and let him take A&T broadcasting to the next level.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Sept 26, 2012 10:32:57 GMT -5
it ain't no way in hail a person will "solely" rely on their phone for broadcasting of any kind in their vehicle. cuz what happens if you lose or misplace your phone? how are you gonna listen to any kind of broadcasting from your automobile without your phone if you have to rely on it to operate your dashboard? what are they gonna do, install "backup" radios? ain't nobody building any vehicles that don't have radios in them and they never will. you can only listen when you're driving, you can't stare at a screen to watch a game without jeopardizing your life and other people's lives. radio is here to stay... Again, you dont read my post FUUUULLY! First, I never said radio would die any time soon. I said broadcasting is changing. I said you would LISTEN in car and then be able to view video OUTSIDE of car. I already do it via bluetooth in my car. I play Pandora as long as my signal is good and I also listen to ANYTHING that my phone can play through my car speakers via bluetooth. Therfore I would be listening to the broadcast as I drive and when I get out I'm LOOKING at my phone. And on a side note. you obviously dont keep up with app and mobile technology in terms of how cars are about to start using them. Thats not a dig, just stating a fact. I design mobile apps, so I know. Imagine your car as a i-pod dock. You plug it in and certain apps work through your steering wheel controls. Thats what cars are going to. The music app for the I-pod or Iphone already does! I plug in my Ipod and it shows all my playlist and music on the dash and I control it with my steering wheel controls. My car is now the ipod. It wont be any different with broadcasting apps soon. The radio is still in the car, but I barely use it. Its just another option.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Sept 26, 2012 11:51:45 GMT -5
it ain't no way in hail a person will "solely" rely on their phone for broadcasting of any kind in their vehicle. cuz what happens if you lose or misplace your phone? how are you gonna listen to any kind of broadcasting from your automobile without your phone if you have to rely on it to operate your dashboard? what are they gonna do, install "backup" radios? ain't nobody building any vehicles that don't have radios in them and they never will. you can only listen when you're driving, you can't stare at a screen to watch a game without jeopardizing your life and other people's lives. radio is here to stay... Again, you dont read my post FUUUULLY! First, I never said radio would die any time soon. I said broadcasting is changing. I said you would LISTEN in car and then be able to view video OUTSIDE of car. I already do it via bluetooth in my car. I play Pandora as long as my signal is good and I also listen to ANYTHING that my phone can play through my car speakers via bluetooth. Therfore I would be listening to the broadcast as I drive and when I get out I'm LOOKING at my phone. And on a side note. you obviously dont keep up with app and mobile technology in terms of how cars are about to start using them. Thats not a dig, just stating a fact. I design mobile apps, so I know. Imagine your car as a i-pod dock. You plug it in and certain apps work through your steering wheel controls. Thats what cars are going to. The music app for the I-pod or Iphone already does! I plug in my Ipod and it shows all my playlist and music on the dash and I control it with my steering wheel controls. My car is now the ipod. It wont be any different with broadcasting apps soon. The radio is still in the car, but I barely use it. Its just another option. then why suggest we can wait on technology advances before changing our football broadcasting crew? didn't you suggest that "soon" folk will no longer listen to football games by radio because it would "fade away"? wasn't that your original point? like i previously stated, i have every mobile technology "gadget" you can think of in my vehicle. trust me, my vehicle is loaded! i have am/fm/sat radio, gps, cd/dvd/usb memory/hard drive, bluetooth, ipod & music box, camera aid with "sonar" function, touch screen everything, steering wheel and voice recognition controls. you name it, i got it. but that's all besides the point. the point i was making is that "radio broadcasting" will never go away no matter how advanced smart phones become. the idea that we can wait until radio becomes obsolete and/or more advanced automobile/smart phone integration is created before we change our football broadcasting team is to wait for eternity. and that's my point. if we wait that long, neither you nor i will still be living when we eventually replace our crew. technological advances can't fix our broadcasting crew and radio ain't going away. that's the bottom line...
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