A&T's Eaves gets extension

[DOOMS]

4xlaggie said:

raleighaggie said:

I have to see some numbers saying that D1AA football is not profitable? That's one of the strangest statements I've ever heard. A&T's program not being profitable? Until late they have always had decent records and crowds. If you have numbers please share?

It's a safe bet to say that when you tally the costs of running a football program against gate receipts and guarantee games, you are not going to make money.

I think that depends on the program.

If we were division II and in the CIAA, we'd be making money, period. Less monies for scholarships and more attendance at our home games would be a given.

Likewise, Appalachian is making millions off of their program due to the exposure of being a two-time I-AA champ. Georgia Southern did the same.

[4XLAGGIE]

doomsday said:

4xlaggie said:

It's a safe bet to say that when you tally the costs of running a football program against gate receipts and guarantee games, you are not going to make money.

I think that depends on the program.

If we were division II and in the CIAA, we'd be making money, period. Less monies for scholarships and more attendance at our home games would be a given.

Likewise, Appalachian is making millions off of their program due to the exposure of being a two-time I-AA champ. Georgia Southern did the same.

I think App State and Georgia Southern are exceptions and not the rule. I would also question whether App is making "millions". Just a thought...

[DOOMS]

I was just going by the articles I've read concerning their success over the past two years. I forget the exact numbers but their alumni giving jumped tremendously after their title run. I'm pretty sure it was in the million dollar range. But I think you're right, probably not "millions."

In any event I'm of the opinion that football and basketball would earn tremendous income if we were division II.

[truthseeker]

It would be very hard to find a I-AA football program that makes money..... that's why a lot of them play guaranty games to help off set the cost. Most D-1 schools don't make a profit..... unless the conf. has a big tv deal..... alot of schools are struggling.

For "T" to come close to making a profit we would need Homecoming crowds for each home game and that means at Homecoming ticket prices & 2 big-time guaranty games (500k +)!!!!

Football cost!!! But schools without football don't have good school spirit.... I mean there is something missing!!!

[numberonebrave]

if you are Div-2 you will not get the basketball $$$ from playing SMU etc.........what D-2 Programs make money even w/ the fewer scholarships...WSSU AND NCCU might not put you on their schedule , so you might not do as well w/ Fayetteville State and Livingston

[trues]

I don't have the same type of enthusiasm that I have with Coach Bibbs. I think I would have rather waited until the season is over.

Recruiting a quality Big man or steal a blue chipper is still a issue me.

[aggiejazz]

trues said:

I don't have the same type of enthusiasm that I have with Coach Bibbs. I think I would have rather waited until the season is over.

Recruiting a quality Big man or steal a blue chipper is still a issue me.

So True, are you going to do any fundraising to get another coach that by consensus will be deemed a good coach at the time of the hire or do you want A&T to roll the dice again and get another unproven coach for below market salary?

[4XLAGGIE]

trues said:

I don't have the same type of enthusiasm that I have with Coach Bibbs. I think I would have rather waited until the season is over.

Recruiting a quality Big man or steal a blue chipper is still a issue me.

Trues, you gotta be kidding. But every man is entitled to his opinion....

[Aggie77]

trues said:

I don't have the same type of enthusiasm that I have with Coach Bibbs. I think I would have rather waited until the season is over.

Recruiting a quality Big man or steal a blue chipper is still a issue me.

trues you are not alone in this sentiment. I'm hearing this wait crap from quite a few alums. Wait for what?

This guy has been here four years, we either think he can keep building the program or we don't. Apparently, the Leadership thinks he can keep building the program. I'm inclined to agree on several levels, money, stability and potential. Dude appears to be willing to do the job for less than a $100k. Hell, we can't even get AggieJazz ;D for less than $100k. For me the unknown is to scary, especially with our track record of hires. We have some stability let's build on it, not restart. I will agree he will need to have two very solid recruiting classes (this year and next) to keep this thing going, because next year he will five or six seniors.

[AggiePride]

Eaves has made more progress than Curtis did in his tenure at A&T. Some of you were at T during the glory days of basketball and witnessed excellent coaches and players. While I was at A&T basketball sucked. I went to all the games and witnessed the same thing everytime: losing. THis team without its two leading scorers almost beat some big dollar programs and is competitive in the Meac. The thing that I like about Eaves he is making adjustments to be competitive. Curtis never made adjustments he just complained and whined about what he did not get. Eaves is not perfect, but he has made progress and hopefully he will continue to make adjustments. I will say that I am worried about 2009, since this team is filled with juniors and seniors, but hopefully Eaves will be able to recruit. The school needs to leverage the benefits we have, no school outside of Duke, UNC, WFU, NCSU has tv coverage or fan atmosphere that we have. App State, UNCG, ECU are not on tv- why are we losing recruits to them.
Unlike Bibbs, he was unfamiliar with HBCU sports and politics so he needed a little more time to adjust. This is no excuse, but a learning curve does exist. LEt us not forget the likely hood instability for the athletic department under Quick draw Renick. I could any AD or coach get anything done with him looming.

[DECKS]

And while we're at it let's go ahead and give Coach Bibbs a new contract!!

[hawkeye]

dex said:

And while we're at it let's go ahead and give Coach Bibbs a new contract!!

Dex, I was going to wait and let Eaves have his time to shine, but since you brought it up. We should sign Bibbs up for as long as we can. Why not give her 100k and be done with it.

[AggieGroove]

Agree both Eaves and Bibbs deserve extensions..Eaves seems to be doing more with less. IMO, he has an excellent squad but I think he has good assistant coaches...BTW who is the white dude on the bench? We just need a little momentum going into the tournament and I think we will be ok!

[B]

trues said:

I don't have the same type of enthusiasm that I have with Coach Bibbs. I think I would have rather waited until the season is over.

Recruiting a quality Big man or steal a blue chipper is still a issue me.

I agree with Trues on this one for the most part. I'm more enthusiastic about Bibbs. She has pretty much turned the women around in 1 year. And turned them around strongly. Next year they will be even more dangerous.

Personal Opinion: If she could get a transfer C like Bland or at least a top 150-200 C and a top 200 SG to go along with next years recruits, then we're competing to get into the Top 25.

I'm warming up to Eaves. He still needs to get some stronger recruits a la HiU, DSU, and other stronger mid-majors. It would definately be nice if he could get a quality PF or C, but I'll settle for what we have now since it seems to be working.

Waiting until the season was over may have been better, but based on what he has done and the fact that you want to be able to say that the coach will be around for recruiting purposes, I can understand why he would be given the extension now.

I will be very interested to see the recruits this year.

[trues]

So True, are you going to do any fund raising to get another coach that by consensus will be deemed a good coach at the time of the hire or do you want A&T to roll the dice again and get another unproven coach for below market salary?

Hell no aggiejazz are you. If everybody pay $300 toward there Aggieclub dues we would have no need for Fundraisers.

We would not have to get a unproven coach. Just like we hired coach Bibbs(that was a pr oven coach) we could have grab Bobby Collins(Former Hampton Coach)

And while we're at it let's go ahead and give Coach Bibbs a new contract!!


Dex, I was going to wait and let Eaves have his time to shine, but since you brought it up. We should sign Bibbs up for as long as we can. Why not give her 100k and be done with it.

I just not a enthusiasm because Eaves is in his Fourth year and he is finally started winning some games. He told us in the Aggie Club meeting two years ago he would compete for the MEAC Championship his final two years. Last year was a joke. This year it may happen. That's why I would waited to see the out come.


Understand I did not say I would not resign him but when you have had fours year to proves yourself my expectation is very high. I would be the same way with Coach Fobbs his final year.

And while we're at it let's go ahead and give Coach Bibbs a new contract!!


Dex, I was going to wait and let Eaves have his time to shine, but since you brought it up. We should sign Bibbs up for as long as we can. Why not give her 100k and be done with it.

While we at it sign her up sign up $150k that what we pay Fobbs.