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Post by Bornthrilla on Feb 6, 2007 14:47:00 GMT -5
Jazz, as a PR guy, I am well aware of the advantages that come with good communication skills. If Eaves wasn't able to effectively articulate his vision to the fans and media during those intial down years, there is no way be would have been given this much support considering his dismal record.
I'm not saying the guy is a bullsh*t artist, but I think he was smart enough to say the right things when he first got here to buy himself enough time and support.
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Post by Aggie77 on Feb 6, 2007 15:03:21 GMT -5
Yall might get mad at me saying this, but Eaves is not a top tier coach. Above average, but not exceptional. I realized this during the Hampton game. I am not sure he is getting the most out of his players. The best thing he has going for him is that he speaks well to the fans and media and he has the best home court advantage in black college basketball. Besides that, dude still has not shown that he can effectively recruit blue clip players, nor has he shown an ability to keep his best guys eligible. C'mom Thrilla... Hunter had the same home court advantage, didn't serve him too well. Eaves is a good coach who has grown with the program in terms of getting better in every way. And he will continue to do so..... I'm pro Eaves, but last night he lost it. I was thinking, Coach it's catch and shoot time what's the plan? Coach was at mid court waving his arms, pointing at the scoring table, gesturing to the refs. If Coach Eaves has a weakness, IMO it’s not coaching. I have seen it time and time again, and I look for it. What does the team do after a timeout when we have possession? Almost every time we get a clean look, that is not by accident. I agree we need to do better with recruiting, but is that solely on Coach Eaves? The on court performance is his and this team is competitive. That is part of the problem he is so close that it’s frustrating to lose like last night and the 8 or 9 that could have gone the other way also.
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Post by 4XLAGGIE on Feb 6, 2007 16:26:38 GMT -5
Sometimes a coach has got to fight for his players. Maybe we don't always pick the right times to do it, but you've got to respect it. Each coach has his own philosophy. A lot of times the mark of a good coach is whether or not he is willing to go outside of it from time to time to get things done. Two years ago, Eaves would never think about a zone defense, now he uses one from time to time. Understand that this is his first head coaching position and I believe he is continuing to grow as a coach as his program continues to grow. If I had a beef, its probably with the lack of experience of the assistants. They are great people, but growing them as well as a young program can get to be quite a chore. I think recruiting has gotten better as evidenced by the arrival of this last class. The kids have gotten better, even Walter booth and Greg Roberts. Remember them two years ago???
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Post by econgrad71 on Feb 6, 2007 16:56:40 GMT -5
Let the team lose a couple of games and the "boo-birds" come crawling from under rock after rock after rock. Eaves is a good coach and doing quite well, given what he has to work with. All you nay-sayers, GIVE IT A REST!!!!
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Post by truthseeker on Feb 6, 2007 17:52:30 GMT -5
A $12,000 recruiting budget..... don't get to keep any guaranty money that you have rightfully earned..... we're not that good but we're not that bad..... and we compete with anybody..... I'd say the coaches have done a good job!!!!
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Post by aggieman007 on Feb 6, 2007 18:39:07 GMT -5
He is doing a good job. Everybody needs to support the man he is a much better coach than Curtis Hunter
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Post by DIEHARDAGGIE on Feb 6, 2007 18:41:46 GMT -5
Aggie 77, recruiting is on Eaves. I think he is the coach
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Post by truthseeker on Feb 6, 2007 18:58:47 GMT -5
I think we have to realize.... our players more so than anyone else..... this team has no margin for error so we gotta learn fast on how to shoot freethrows at a 80% clip as a team. Unlike the volleyball coaches in the MEAC.... no one is going to hand over the crown to DEL ST. They will definately have to earn it!!! They lost to Morgan last nite..... so maybe Boseman's Shug Knight impersonation worked....
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Post by JayBee on Feb 6, 2007 19:14:23 GMT -5
Sometimes a coach has got to fight for his players. Maybe we don't always pick the right times to do it, but you've got to respect it. Each coach has his own philosophy. A lot of times the mark of a good coach is whether or not he is willing to go outside of it from time to time to get things done. That's exactly what Coach Eaves was doing. If you'll notice in the video, Glen Nelson got opened for a 3 point shot with about 2.2 seconds on the clock. Although Dude blocked the shot, he fouled Glen so hard, he knocked him down. The ref's gave us the ball and Eaves called a timeout. At that point he was steaming because they didn't call a foul and he had had enough.
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Post by JayBee on Feb 6, 2007 19:34:04 GMT -5
PLEEEAZEE stop saying that coaches cant KEEP their players eligible. They did EVERYTHING under the sun to get and keep booker and guions eligible. They checked their classes EVERYDAY.. i know that for a fact. Guys you gotta understand. We dont have the time nor the resources to babysit these kids. They have got to value being here and know that if they dont do what they are supposed to do that there will be consequences. I bet if these same guys were at UNCG they wouldnt have to be told but once that they were REQUIRED to be in class and i bet theyd have they butts in the seats everyday.. because they value being there. The athletes here ( across the board) have to value being here more than they do. That in my opinion is why we have some of the problems that we have...SO the point is/was and always will be that a COACH cant keep players eligible.. they have to want to be and stay eligible.. How do you know they did everything under the sun to keep Guions and Booker eligible?
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Post by truthseeker on Feb 6, 2007 19:49:07 GMT -5
When coaches don't know if there is going to be enough money available from yr. to yr to send kids to summer school..... you can't blame the coach. That falls on administration because going to summer school should not be a question mark..... it shoul not only be expected..... but required!!!!
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Post by Aggie77 on Feb 6, 2007 22:00:02 GMT -5
Aggie 77, recruiting is on Eaves. I think he is the coach Dude, are you saying Coach Eaves has the resources to recruit any player in the world, or is being able to recruit in the five counties around Greensboro your idea of "recruiting is on Eaves"? The man can’t recruit those so called “Blue Chippers” on a gas tank budget. If his recruiting base is restricted how is it solely on him?
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Post by truthseeker on Feb 8, 2007 16:35:42 GMT -5
B'Ball needs our support big time!!! With the national exposure from ESPNU.... officials on campus are experiencing something no one was prepared for!!! The AD needs to let everyone know how she is going to create a positive atmosphere for b'ball to be successful....
Everyone.... just keep this thought in mind..... if the powers that be had done what Coach Corbett wanted instead of forcing him out..... whenever they mention Carolina & Duke basketball they would have to mention NCA&T in the same breath!!!! Remember that!!!!
How does the past tie into the present??? Because now it's dejavu all over again the only difference is, now ESPNU is watching! Watching to see if A&T is going to take this to another level.... or is A&T going to make the same mistake that was made 17yrs ago!! Don't let history repeat itself..... it's up to us to break the cycle..... Break the cycle MS. Todd...... BREAK IT!!!!!!!
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Post by Maxell on Feb 8, 2007 17:22:49 GMT -5
TS, What exactly did Corbett want to do that folk just didn't understand? Bring us up to speed.
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Post by truthseeker on Feb 8, 2007 20:45:53 GMT -5
Maxwell: Corbett wasn't asking for much..... just a larger recruiting budget and another full-time asst. coach.... that's it!! No one helped him because the powers thought he didn't need what he was asking for and you had some who didn't like Corbett so they just didn't do anything to help him...
7 straight MEAC titles..... now everyone thought they knew more than him..... well you see how basketball has struggled since. Another thing that ticked people off was that Corbett refused to play guaranty games.... that's why he had a good record because we played people we had a 50/50 chance of winning in Dec.... Even when we played Mich. Cinn. Syracuse but the home cooking (refs) tilted the odds in their favor.
The reason b'ball has not progressed is that their budget is practically the same. And no one has had the fore-sight to put some of that guaranty money back into the program so the coaches can recruit the better players. Notice how Del. St. has beefed up it's b'ball..... and they really aren't that much better than us. That let's me know we are close....real close..... we just need some beefing up!!!!
In one of the games when NC State had us by 20 and we cut the lead to 3 by the 4min mark. Eric Boyd & Jim Brown Jr. had Ernie Myers trapped at half court near the hash mark right in front of us!! Ernie put the ball between his legs and lost it.... Boyd scooped it up for a lay-up..... it was so loud you couldn't hear. The refs waived off the basket because they called a foul. The State Booster sitting beside us said nobody touched Ernie..... we looked at him and said we know..... we ended up loosing by 13. As much as Valvano respected us because he would give us nothing but praise on his show.... he wouldn't dare bring the Wolfpack to Corbett!!!
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