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Post by AggieMike on Jan 16, 2007 11:49:28 GMT -5
I'm excited but then again I am 20 and I think a great number of his supporters are my age. We don't make up a majority by any means but I do feel like this makes the presidential race in 2008 a little bit more interesting. Depending on how the next 1-2 years go, I'm pretty sure that a democrat will be in office but who that democrat is? We'll have to wait and see. A lot of people question his experience but hey, could you see a Clinton-Obama ticket? That would take try to take all minority votes (women and blacks). What does BDF think?
Oh yea, if you're a reader, check out the Audacity of Hope by Barack Obama (I'm reading it now)
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Post by Maxell on Jan 16, 2007 12:15:49 GMT -5
He's finding a middle ground politically, which is what he has to do to be viable. The debates leading up to the primaries will be critical for him. In the primaries, the key vote will be women. In the general election, the key vote will be the baby boomers(the older crowd).
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Post by Aggie77 on Jan 16, 2007 12:27:10 GMT -5
If he can really ignite that 18-25 age group and get them out to vote, he would be hard to beat.
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Post by AggieMike on Jan 16, 2007 12:41:24 GMT -5
I still think what Bill Clinton said was true though, you don't want to run too soon and its people on both sides pushing him to run now but the Republican interest in that is, if he loses, he's out of the picture for a while ya know.
He has the younger crowd with him, whether its his appearances on the Daily Show or Monday Night Football, his name is well known, better than that of even John Kerry when he ran in 2004
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Post by Aggie One on Jan 16, 2007 12:51:22 GMT -5
Pardon my damper on this occassion but I honestly do not have any faith in the electorate of this country that they could or would ever elect a black as president or even any ticket with a black on it even as a vice presidential candidate at least not in my lifetime.
Racism in this country still runs very deep, both instutionally and individually, and especially so on voting day and Sunday mornings.
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Post by Bigboy on Jan 16, 2007 13:59:15 GMT -5
I will have to "Amen" that Aggie One.
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Post by aggielove on Jan 17, 2007 11:08:57 GMT -5
I'd have to agree with Aggie One and Bigboy - It's hard to envision that in my lifetime and i'm rather young (27).
Mike, that Obama-Clinton would be something to see though. I think former Senator Edwards, Kerry's running mate in 2004, has a good chance as he's a middle ground politician. I think Barack adds a key voice and different perspective that will push all other nominees during the primary period.
Should be interesting to say the least.
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Post by AggieMike on Jan 17, 2007 13:58:07 GMT -5
I think because Edwards neglected to get in an office and he's just sitting out as a popular figure, thats going to hurt him in terms of his chances of getting on a ticket.
Sen. McCain from Arizona is going to have a say so on either side before it's all said and done.
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Post by Aggie One on Jan 17, 2007 15:14:59 GMT -5
It works just the opposite politically for Edwards. Makes him more attractive much like Obama to Dems in the primaries because he's been away from Washington and has notbeen part of the establishment. They both hit on the theme of "two Americas" and outright opposition to "the surge" which plays well both with the blue dogs and the libs.
Clinton is in trouble because blue dogs are simply not going to put a woman, especially her at the top of the ticket and Dems will need that middle class vote to win.
A betting man should put their money on Bill Richardson as the eventual Democratic nominee. He strong in foreign affairs, a sitting governor from a state from the western red part of the election map that runs consistently in the black finanancially, strong ties to the women's groups, civil rights organizations, labor, small business and the hispanic vote - the base of the 2006 Democratic takeover of Congress and most likely the White House in '08.
McCain has been cozying up to the right wing and christian conservatives in the Republican Party way too much trying to find money to run on but has alienated moderates within his own party and among independents. On top of that the bible thumpers switched their vote to Democrat to the tune of 40 percent in the congressional elections and a great many other stayed home after sex scandal revelations in their movement and Congress.
The religous right took a major hit to their public creditability and in their pocketbooks with their supporters over that. They have tuned out completely in Novemeber.
The Country Club Republicans and moderates like the Gerald Fords and George "The First " have been disenfranchised by Shrub's miserable and embarrasing failures both domestically and in Iraq and blame he and his supporters for destroying their stranglehold on Washington.
"Weather Vane" McCain may win his party's nomination but he'll lose the general election big because of his support for Bush.
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Post by dj98 on Jan 17, 2007 16:12:37 GMT -5
(Racism in this country still runs very deep, both instutionally and individually, and especially so on voting day and Sunday mornings.)
I co-sign with Aggie One!!!!!!!!
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Post by Brandmasta on Jan 30, 2007 9:35:43 GMT -5
I dont think I like Edwards on the ticket anywhere. I think it was a mistake to pick him as VP last time because he couldnt deliver a state that was not already solidly in the blue. Kerry would have been wise to choose someone like Gephardt that might have been able to deliver at least one of those blue collar midwestern states.
I would love to see Obama on top of the ticket, and if he makes it, maybe he should choose someone like Richardson for the reasons that Aggie One stated.
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