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Post by Maxell on Nov 21, 2024 10:52:46 GMT -5
I'll take it. The question is, "Is Forrest OK?". He looked fine from what I saw. However, can our four guard lineup sustain playing 32-plus minutes nightly. This game was the second where we only had a 7-man rotation. At the pace we play and score, I don’t know if that’s sustainable in a CAA-grind of a schedule without someone getting hurt for an extended period of time. We need Qua to get healthy and crack the rotation. We need McKie to get more minutes. We also need our other bigs to get a shot in the rotation so the Greek Freak doesn’t break down. What happened to Ogletree? |
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Post by AggieGroove on Nov 21, 2024 11:29:36 GMT -5
He looked fine from what I saw. However, can our four guard lineup sustain playing 32-plus minutes nightly. This game was the second where we only had a 7-man rotation. At the pace we play and score, I don’t know if that’s sustainable in a CAA-grind of a schedule without someone getting hurt for an extended period of time. We need Qua to get healthy and crack the rotation. We need McKie to get more minutes. We also need our other bigs to get a shot in the rotation so the Greek Freak doesn’t break down. What happened to Ogletree? Good question!!! |
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Post by planoaggie on Nov 21, 2024 11:32:39 GMT -5
I'll take it. The question is, "Is Forrest OK?". He looked fine from what I saw. However, can our four guard lineup sustain playing 32-plus minutes nightly. This game was the second where we only had a 7-man rotation. At the pace we play and score, I don’t know if that’s sustainable in a CAA-grind of a schedule without someone getting hurt for an extended period of time. We need Qua to get healthy and crack the rotation. We need McKie to get more minutes. We also need our other bigs to get a shot in the rotation so the Greek Freak doesn’t break down. We have 8 more non-conference games for bench players to get some playing time and to allow Coach Ross to evaluate these bench players in real game situation. I have seen college teams go all season with a primarily 7-8 man rotation with 4 starters getting more than 30 minutes, so this is not a shock to me. What is a little different is that those teams I witness that played that style of basketball (small ball where the center was getting somewhere between 15 to 20 minutes depending on the game), the coach played up to 10 players and varied the starting lineup in most to all of their non-conference games. This gave the coaches, players, parents, and fans a good sense of who might be ready to step in to relieve a starter or key player if injury occurs or a key player fails to play well during an extended period of time. I don't know how many players are currently hurt or injured on the team right now, but I would like to see more players play in non-conference games even if it resulted in us potentially losing the game. I would like to see more of Jason Murphy and Efstratios Kalliontzis to see if they will be able to really help us if Felton or Nik goes down. Qua may still be injured and I have no idea of whether Duke is injured or no longer on the team, but I would like to see more of Ogletree and McKie to determine whether they will be viable rotational players at the G/F spot. Coach Ross may very well be thinking the same thing so we will have to wait and see. I am okay if we end up having 4 starters playing over 30 minutes in "conference" games if other players are not ready and we are competitive. If we are losing many games or it appears the players are not conditioned to play that amount of minutes resulting in mentor mistakes, then Coach Ross may look into limiting player's minutes. |
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Post by planoaggie on Nov 21, 2024 11:37:05 GMT -5
He looked fine from what I saw. However, can our four guard lineup sustain playing 32-plus minutes nightly. This game was the second where we only had a 7-man rotation. At the pace we play and score, I don’t know if that’s sustainable in a CAA-grind of a schedule without someone getting hurt for an extended period of time. We need Qua to get healthy and crack the rotation. We need McKie to get more minutes. We also need our other bigs to get a shot in the rotation so the Greek Freak doesn’t break down. What happened to Ogletree? I had to step away in the middle of my post when you posted this. We had the same question. I don't mind the max minutes for our 4 starters by Coach Ross if that happens in conference play, but we do need to evaluate a few players while playing non-conference games IMO. |
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Post by Aggie Monster on Nov 21, 2024 13:07:59 GMT -5
So far so good. Last year and prior we might have gotten blown out by this team. Thats how you improve!
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Nov 21, 2024 16:00:01 GMT -5
I'll take it. The question is, "Is Forrest OK?". He looked fine from what I saw. However, can our four guard lineup sustain playing 32-plus minutes nightly. This game was the second where we only had a 7-man rotation. At the pace we play and score, I don’t know if that’s sustainable in a CAA-grind of a schedule without someone getting hurt for an extended period of time. We need Qua to get healthy and crack the rotation. We need McKie to get more minutes. We also need our other bigs to get a shot in the rotation so the Greek Freak doesn’t break down. when the game is close and still in jeopardy, that will "limit" your options as far as substitutes go. however, i did notice last night that coach briefly went with his "big lineup", having felton at the 5 and the "greek freak" at the 4. and it "noticeably" slowed down our transition game. i think that's a lineup that we should go with only when necessary. last night, i didn't think it was necessary. last night morgan didn't hurt us with "size", they hurt us last night with "hustle". can't tell you how many times i got "frustrated" cuz our guys weren't "boxing out", allowing morgan's "slashers" to crash the boards for second shot layups. but i'm not looking for "perfection" after only 5 games into the season. i'm looking for gradual steady "improvement" game to game and i saw that last night. our "ball movement" was very much "improved" last night and the "greek freak" dang near convinced me that he should start over felton. greek freak was "VERY IMPRESSIVE" last night! not just offensively, but i believe he had at least "5" blocked shots. "greek freak" is even better this season than he was last season as a freshman. man, i luv me some "greek freak"... |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Nov 21, 2024 16:01:53 GMT -5
What happened to Ogletree? Good question!!! i saw him on the sideline dressed in sweats, must have an injury. heck, i also saw kyle duke dressed in sweats on the sideline, but didn't see qua... |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Nov 21, 2024 16:11:47 GMT -5
He looked fine from what I saw. However, can our four guard lineup sustain playing 32-plus minutes nightly. This game was the second where we only had a 7-man rotation. At the pace we play and score, I don’t know if that’s sustainable in a CAA-grind of a schedule without someone getting hurt for an extended period of time. We need Qua to get healthy and crack the rotation. We need McKie to get more minutes. We also need our other bigs to get a shot in the rotation so the Greek Freak doesn’t break down. We have 8 more non-conference games for bench players to get some playing time and to allow Coach Ross to evaluate these bench players in real game situation. I have seen college teams go all season with a primarily 7-8 man rotation with 4 starters getting more than 30 minutes, so this is not a shock to me. What is a little different is that those teams I witness that played that style of basketball (small ball where the center was getting somewhere between 15 to 20 minutes depending on the game), the coach played up to 10 players and varied the starting lineup in most to all of their non-conference games. This gave the coaches, players, parents, and fans a good sense of who might be ready to step in to relieve a starter or key player if injury occurs or a key player fails to play well during an extended period of time. I don't know how many players are currently hurt or injured on the team right now, but I would like to see more players play in non-conference games even if it resulted in us potentially losing the game. I would like to see more of Jason Murphy and Efstratios Kalliontzis to see if they will be able to really help us if Felton or Nik goes down. Qua may still be injured and I have no idea of whether Duke is injured or no longer on the team, but I would like to see more of Ogletree and McKie to determine whether they will be viable rotational players at the G/F spot. Coach Ross may very well be thinking the same thing so we will have to wait and see. I am okay if we end up having 4 starters playing over 30 minutes in "conference" games if other players are not ready and we are competitive. If we are losing many games or it appears the players are not conditioned to play that amount of minutes resulting in mentor mistakes, then Coach Ross may look into limiting player's minutes. i agree with most of what you stated except what's bolded and particularly what's in "red". no, i don't believe in playing players at the expense of "losing" a game, "ever". that's what "cupcake games" are for, except ya don't have to worry about "losing" cupcake games. that's why when folk say we should play a "tougher" early season schedule, i say no we "need" at least a couple of cupcake games for the reasons you stated. but when you play "tough competition" early in the season, it limits how far down the bench you can go without "losing the game". this team is just beginning to "gain confidence" in itself. an "unnecessary" loss would damage that self-confidence. i don't think a coach should "ever" allow his team to lose a "winnable" game just because he wants to play more players. again, we have "cupcake games" for that... |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Nov 21, 2024 16:39:42 GMT -5
oh, forgot. another thing we need to fix is our "free throw" shooting. we shot only 60% (21-35) from the free throw line last night. so we left 14 points on the court last night due to missed free throws. gotta clean that up...
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Post by planoaggie on Nov 21, 2024 17:09:20 GMT -5
We have 8 more non-conference games for bench players to get some playing time and to allow Coach Ross to evaluate these bench players in real game situation. I have seen college teams go all season with a primarily 7-8 man rotation with 4 starters getting more than 30 minutes, so this is not a shock to me. What is a little different is that those teams I witness that played that style of basketball (small ball where the center was getting somewhere between 15 to 20 minutes depending on the game), the coach played up to 10 players and varied the starting lineup in most to all of their non-conference games. This gave the coaches, players, parents, and fans a good sense of who might be ready to step in to relieve a starter or key player if injury occurs or a key player fails to play well during an extended period of time. I don't know how many players are currently hurt or injured on the team right now, but I would like to see more players play in non-conference games even if it resulted in us potentially losing the game. I would like to see more of Jason Murphy and Efstratios Kalliontzis to see if they will be able to really help us if Felton or Nik goes down. Qua may still be injured and I have no idea of whether Duke is injured or no longer on the team, but I would like to see more of Ogletree and McKie to determine whether they will be viable rotational players at the G/F spot. Coach Ross may very well be thinking the same thing so we will have to wait and see. I am okay if we end up having 4 starters playing over 30 minutes in "conference" games if other players are not ready and we are competitive. If we are losing many games or it appears the players are not conditioned to play that amount of minutes resulting in mentor mistakes, then Coach Ross may look into limiting player's minutes. i agree with most of what you stated except what's bolded and particularly what's in "red". no, i don't believe in playing players at the expense of "losing" a game, "ever". that's what "cupcake games" are for, except ya don't have to worry about "losing" cupcake games. that's why when folk say we should play a "tougher" early season schedule, i say no we "need" at least a couple of cupcake games for the reasons you stated. but when you play "tough competition" early in the season, it limits how far down the bench you can go without "losing the game". this team is just beginning to "gain confidence" in itself. an "unnecessary" loss would damage that self-confidence. i don't think a coach should "ever" allow his team to lose a "winnable" game just because he wants to play more players. again, we have "cupcake games" for that... I believe our non-conference schedule is good to where we have 1 to 2 teams that we should dominate and 1 to 2 teams that will dominate us. IMO, in all of those games you should be able to play 8 to 10 player to evaluate how well your starters and bench players play against various level of competition. Against non-conference teams where the outcome is unpredictable going into the game, that is where I try to play as many bench players as possible while still trying to win the game because I am still trying to evaluate the talent on my team. I don't intentionally try to lose the game. Its just that I will not be stressed out about losing the game if something good comes out of it and our team is average to below average. I can spend this to show how much better we have gotten as the season progress as to rotation and finishing games. That is just my style as I mentioned and I added that Coach Ross "may" think the same way, but I really don't know. |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Nov 21, 2024 18:11:42 GMT -5
i agree with most of what you stated except what's bolded and particularly what's in "red". no, i don't believe in playing players at the expense of "losing" a game, "ever". that's what "cupcake games" are for, except ya don't have to worry about "losing" cupcake games. that's why when folk say we should play a "tougher" early season schedule, i say no we "need" at least a couple of cupcake games for the reasons you stated. but when you play "tough competition" early in the season, it limits how far down the bench you can go without "losing the game". this team is just beginning to "gain confidence" in itself. an "unnecessary" loss would damage that self-confidence. i don't think a coach should "ever" allow his team to lose a "winnable" game just because he wants to play more players. again, we have "cupcake games" for that... I believe our non-conference schedule is good to where we have 1 to 2 teams that we should dominate and 1 to 2 teams that will dominate us. IMO, in all of those games you should be able to play 8 to 10 player to evaluate how well your starters and bench players play against various level of competition. Against non-conference teams where the outcome is unpredictable going into the game, that is where I try to play as many bench players as possible while still trying to win the game because I am still trying to evaluate the talent on my team. I don't intentionally try to lose the game. Its just that I will not be stressed out about losing the game if something good comes out of it and our team is average to below average. I can spend this to show how much better we have gotten as the season progress as to rotation and finishing games. That is just my style as I mentioned and I added that Coach Ross "may" think the same way, but I really don't know. i understand what you're saying. at one point last night, i "thought" that we'd build a big enuf lead to get other players in the game that didn't play. but every time we pulled away, morgan fought back to close the lead. i totally agree that we should get as many players into games as possible during the early season games for evaluation purposes. i totally agree with that because as you probably already know, you can't always tell how a player will perform in real games based solely on how they perform in practice. i'm witcha in that regard. but last night wasn't the game to do that. it looked as if it would be when we went up by 14 points, but then morgan came storming back into the game. morgan "answered" all of our runs to blow them out. that's why i was disappointed with our defense and especially our lack of "boxing out"... |
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Post by pommie on Nov 22, 2024 3:11:33 GMT -5
Good win but the poor foul shooting must be an Aggie curse. It was bad in 2019-2022 and may games were lost because of it.
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Post by westcoastaggie on Nov 22, 2024 7:01:00 GMT -5
oh, forgot. another thing we need to fix is our "free throw" shooting. we shot only 60% (21-35) from the free throw line last night. so we left 14 points on the court last night due to missed free throws. gotta clean that up... They shot ~71 percent against the Citadel. I think it happened because of nerves but we have to get that corrected regardless. |
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Post by A&T-roy on Nov 22, 2024 22:21:58 GMT -5
i saw him on the sideline dressed in sweats, must have an injury. heck, i also saw kyle duke dressed in sweats on the sideline, but didn't see qua... Ogletree told me he believes he'll be out for another 4 weeks and Dule said he's redshirting. Don't know what's up with Qua. |
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