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Post by moaggies5 on Jul 23, 2024 20:16:18 GMT -5
Based on the racist track record of this country over the past 200+ years, Trump will win. Hey, he hates all the same people as the majority of white Americans How do you explain Obama winning two terms? Cause he's not a woman and to be candid he's eye candy to most educated white women. Sad but true.
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Post by A&T-roy on Jul 23, 2024 20:47:58 GMT -5
Do you believe they're the same level of "terrible"? And will you be voting for Kamala? I do think they are both equally terrible. And I am writing in BornThrilla for prez. Wow. Putting you on my list of those I don't associate with, for being STU...nvm. #Deuces
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jul 23, 2024 20:58:43 GMT -5
How do you explain Obama winning two terms? Cause he's not a woman and to be candid he's eye candy to most educated white women. Sad but true. So even if a white woman was a staunch conservative but educated, she'd be more inclined to vote for the black candidate if he was hot? Yeah, I think you guys are just picking the easiest explanation now and running with it.
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Post by moaggies5 on Jul 23, 2024 21:05:31 GMT -5
And you seem to be giving these folks more credit than they deserve. Sometimes the things that we find to be trivial are true. Trump has a huge following and what endearing qualities does he have? He's ignorant enough to say the things that comes to his mind. He's bold enough to say what a lot of white folks feel. Again, sad but true.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jul 23, 2024 21:19:31 GMT -5
If you think racist white people are the only ones voting for Trump this time around, I have some shocking news for you.
Also, do you honestly think that all the white people who voted against Trump in the last election when Kamala was on the opposing ticket are going to suddenly vote for Trump now with Kamala still on the opposing ticket?
A lot can happen between now and November but if you want to truly understand this electorate I believe we all need to dig a little deeper.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 23, 2024 22:43:45 GMT -5
that's always a concern in this country. but there's tons of americans who don't like 45, even hillary beat him in the "popular vote" and would've won the general election had comey not put his finger on the doggone general election scale. yes, given the racist history of this country, kamala has 2 knocks against her. she's black and she's a woman. but i also think those characteristics are a plus for kamala. before biden pulled out, the black community was not as excited about biden as they were when barack ran. well, kamala's excitement in the black community is darn near on the same level as obama's was which means the black vote will "go thru the roof". might even exceed obama! however, not only will the black vote "go thru the roof", but so will the "female vote" and the "female vote" is larger than the male vote. so while i believe you have "valid" concerns, i think kamala can overcome those obstacles... So you believe that most people vote solely on their race and gender preferences over policy? In that case, you’re not necessarily against racism if your side wins, correct? you said that, i didn't. i say that there are "multiple" factors that influence a person's decision and yes, "race" sometimes is one of them along with many other factors, though white nor black folk will admit it. so let's not put words in my mouth and i won't put any in yours...
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Post by westcoastaggie on Jul 24, 2024 8:07:12 GMT -5
Democrats have won 3 out of the last 4 presidential elections. I have a hard time believing the only reason Obama served 2 terms is because racist people fell asleep. There were actually more white people who voted for Obama each time than black people. I have no clue what will happen in November but I think it is way too easy to categorize the voters in this election as racist vs non-racists. White Women are the ultimate swing voter, followed by Latinos. The biggest issue for process is the electorate tends to forget about mid-terms. Mid-terms are a big reason why major policy moves that would greatly benefit Black People stall out when Democrats make it to the White House.
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Post by bseballaggie on Jul 24, 2024 9:07:54 GMT -5
I've lived in NY since 1991, Trump is and has always been a privileged bully, his greatest rivalry and hate was Leona Helmsley (The Queen of Mean)who rode the coattails of her (snatched husband's real estate prowess). His achievements are his father's and his father's name, he squandered the family money, he is racist, he often used immigrant contractors for his buildings, and refused to pay them after the work was done, with accusations of shoddy work(yet continued to hire them bypassing union(the mob)contractors and their expenses) His first wife was the brains of his business and after she left(because he couldn't stop grabbing pussies and respect her) it went South. He faked his billionaire status,(Forbes could never verify it) and rode the persona of royalty(he's a showman whose mantra is a sucker is born every day, coined by the founder of the Ringling Brothers Circus). His mouth is always open while surrounded by security, He's the type of guy who lets his people take the fall for him and his stupidity(check the body count). New Yorkers are suckers for bold mob-type personas and the show. Everyone is a whore to him...take the money! Now he's (never before) the champion of disadvantaged white people and blacks who are losing jobs to immigrants. Notice he does not have relationships with the billionaire clubbers, and he is always selling, his 3 card monte skeems! IJS.
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Post by bseballaggie on Jul 25, 2024 7:46:54 GMT -5
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 27, 2024 16:41:45 GMT -5
And you seem to be giving these folks more credit than they deserve. Sometimes the things that we find to be trivial are true. Trump has a huge following and what endearing qualities does he have? He's ignorant enough to say the things that comes to his mind. He's bold enough to say what a lot of white folks feel. Again, sad but true. true, he does have a huge following. but his huge following still doesn't and "never have" represented the vast majority of americans. he has a "high floor" but a "low ceiling". meaning, his base will support him "literally" no matter what he does. but the middle and "definitely" not the left, are not onboard with 45 and nothing he has said has changed that. again, when 45 stole the election, he still didn't get more "popular votes" than hillary and so far, he's made no dent with independents and he can't possibly make a dent with the left. kamala has already (in less than a week) made up the ground that biden lost after the debate and now the race is a "dead heat" statistically. in less than a week! hey, i said on "day 1" that kamala stepped in to become the dems presidential nominee that she'd take 45 to the woodshed in a debate and what has happened since then? 45 has been trying to back out of debating kamala and still is! ![(rofl)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/rofl.png)
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Post by The Professor on Jul 27, 2024 17:13:20 GMT -5
the man doesn't have an "honest bone" anywhere in his body and even his previous vp won't vote for him! I am pretty sure Pence will still vote for whoever is on the Republican ticket. Rah them Trump folks were going to kill him on Jan 6th. He's not going to admit it , but no way you vote for someone who tried to kill you
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 30, 2024 18:37:26 GMT -5
great line by kamala at her atlanta rally today. she called out 45 cuz he backed out of a debate with her. she "lit up" the crowd when she said to 45, "if you got somethin' to say, then say it to my face!!" ![(rofl)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/rofl.png) and the "big mo" (momentum) continues! ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cool.png)
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Post by The Professor on Jul 31, 2024 22:50:01 GMT -5
Idk if it's the campaign or it's Donald himself , but he's in a dog fight and he's looking very unprepared
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Post by westcoastaggie on Aug 1, 2024 9:28:07 GMT -5
Idk if it's the campaign or it's Donald himself , but he's in a dog fight and he's looking very unprepared This was a very unfortunate curve ball for that campaign. He's also had a few gaffes against her including the JD Vance move. But despite that, it will still be a very close race. I don't trust white people.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Aug 1, 2024 10:47:42 GMT -5
I don't trust white people. I am surprised you would make a blanket statement like this. Especially considering the skin color of our current athletic director and other top university officials. Maybe you are just talking about polling data or presidential elections, but I would think everyone here should be mindful of their word choices if they dont want to be misinterpreted.
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