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Post by Bornthrilla on Jul 23, 2024 13:43:34 GMT -5
I am pretty sure Pence will still vote for whoever is on the Republican ticket. he might, but he has "publicly" stated that he would not vote for 45. and can anyone blame him? 45 left him out to get "hung" and the man had his "family" with him. if somebody tried to have me killed, it wouldn't be hard at all "not to" vote for him and just sit on my hands in november... Some people are ideologues. They will vote against their own personal self interests if the end result is a world that fits their religious or cultural vision. |
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Post by westcoastaggie on Jul 23, 2024 13:43:41 GMT -5
kamala "is not" a boldface proven liar, kamala "is not" a convicted 34 count felon, kamala "is not" paying civil penalties for "sexual assault", kamala "did not" have her for profit bogus trump university taken away from her and "closed", and kamala "did not" instigate an insurrection/riot on the capitol. not worried "one bit" about kamala debating 45...  If kamala is the best democrats have, and Trump is the best republicans have...we are screwed either way. She failed miserably as border czar, but she did one thing really well as a prosecutor. She kept those prisons full. Please read and listen to that. |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 23, 2024 14:15:27 GMT -5
dude, i got news for ya. "past debates" don't matter. 45 is a "nutt case" who is a leader of a "cult" (republican party). the man doesn't have an "honest bone" anywhere in his body and even his previous vp won't vote for him! 45 has a "rap sheet" long enuf to write a book. he's a legitimate "crook" and if all you got is that kamala debated somebody else "years ago" says it all. 45 is nervous and the entire republican cult is nervouse cuz they know that 45 can't match kamala's knowledge and he definitely can't match her "integrity" cuz 45 has none. see ya in november... You’re talking to me as if I’m a republican or something. I am not. Far from. I also reject “tribalism” and won’t vote for someone just because they belong to a cult “party” I support, or look like me, or whatever else. Neither one of them are all that bright. Let’s take them as individuals. They both are terrible. i will take kamala's record over 45's any day, any week, or any year. they both "are not" terrible. kamala hasn't been convicted of any felonies, kamala didn't instigate an insurrection/riot on the capitol, kamala did not have her "for profit" university taken away from her, kamala has not been found liable for "sexual assault" by a court of law, kamala did not "pardon" a bunch of felons just because they were her friends, kamala did not get impeached "twice", kamala did not "steal" usa government classified documents and refused to return them. and i could go on and on. kamala is none of those things, but guess who is? no, they both "are not" terrible. don't try to drag kamala "down" to 45's despicable level. that's what the republican cult is now trying to do and the best they could come up with is that they don't like how she laughs. what! lol, don't vote for kamala cuz they don't like how she laughs! omg, see ya'll in november... |
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Post by marchingband1969 on Jul 23, 2024 14:26:02 GMT -5
Damn "Favored,"... the real question is who will win! Based on the racist track record of this country over the past 200+ years, Trump will win. Hey, he hates all the same people as the majority of white Americans... immigrants, minorities and poor people. I wish it wasn't so but I don't expect racist to vote for a minority woman. Just isn't going to happen.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jul 23, 2024 15:01:09 GMT -5
Based on the racist track record of this country over the past 200+ years, Trump will win. Hey, he hates all the same people as the majority of white Americans How do you explain Obama winning two terms? |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 23, 2024 15:21:43 GMT -5
he might, but he has "publicly" stated that he would not vote for 45. and can anyone blame him? 45 left him out to get "hung" and the man had his "family" with him. if somebody tried to have me killed, it wouldn't be hard at all "not to" vote for him and just sit on my hands in november... Some people are ideologues. They will vote against their own personal self interests if the end result is a world that fits their religious or cultural vision. i dunno, thrilla. you could be right but there's also a subset of republicans (never trumpers) who refuse to vote for 45 because they figure if he loses the election, the "traditional" republicans can have their party back cuz 45 keeps losing elections. if 45 loses the election, not only will his "freedom" be in jeopardy, but i also believe that the "traditional" republicans will be able to reclaim their party. so it won't surprise me if republicans like mike pence, liz cheney, or adam kinzinger do not vote for 45 as they have "publicly" proclaimed cuz i believe they see this election as an opportunity to get their party back. btw, i just heard on cnn that 45 is trying to back out of his debate with kamala that had been pre-arranged with biden...  |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 23, 2024 15:39:31 GMT -5
Damn "Favored,"... the real question is who will win! Based on the racist track record of this country over the past 200+ years, Trump will win. Hey, he hates all the same people as the majority of white Americans... immigrants, minorities and poor people. I wish it wasn't so but I don't expect racist to vote for a minority woman. Just isn't going to happen. that's always a concern in this country. but there's tons of americans who don't like 45, even hillary beat him in the "popular vote" and would've won the general election had comey not put his finger on the doggone general election scale. yes, given the racist history of this country, kamala has 2 knocks against her. she's black and she's a woman. but i also think those characteristics are a plus for kamala. before biden pulled out, the black community was not as excited about biden as they were when barack ran. well, kamala's excitement in the black community is darn near on the same level as obama's was which means the black vote will "go thru the roof". might even exceed obama! however, not only will the black vote "go thru the roof", but so will the "female vote" and the "female vote" is larger than the male vote. so while i believe you have "valid" concerns, i think kamala can overcome those obstacles... |
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Post by AggieDad17 on Jul 23, 2024 15:44:37 GMT -5
Damn "Favored,"... the real question is who will win! Based on the racist track record of this country over the past 200+ years, Trump will win. Hey, he hates all the same people as the majority of white Americans... immigrants, minorities and poor people. I wish it wasn't so but I don't expect racist to vote for a minority woman. Just isn't going to happen. that's always a concern in this country. but there's tons of americans who don't like 45, even hillary beat him in the "popular vote" and would've won the general election had comey not put his finger on the doggone general election scale. yes, given the racist history of this country, kamala has 2 knocks against her. she's black and she's a woman. but i also think those characteristics are a plus for kamala. before biden pulled out, the black community was not as excited about biden as they were when barack ran. well, kamala's excitement in the black community is darn near on the same level as obama's was which means the black vote will "go thru the roof". might even exceed obama! however, not only will the black vote "go thru the roof", but so will the "female vote" and the "female vote" is larger than the male vote. so while i believe you have "valid" concerns, i think kamala can overcome those obstacles... So you believe that most people vote solely on their race and gender preferences over policy? In that case, you’re not necessarily against racism if your side wins, correct? |
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Post by A&T-roy on Jul 23, 2024 16:16:33 GMT -5
dude, i got news for ya. "past debates" don't matter. 45 is a "nutt case" who is a leader of a "cult" (republican party). the man doesn't have an "honest bone" anywhere in his body and even his previous vp won't vote for him! 45 has a "rap sheet" long enuf to write a book. he's a legitimate "crook" and if all you got is that kamala debated somebody else "years ago" says it all. 45 is nervous and the entire republican cult is nervouse cuz they know that 45 can't match kamala's knowledge and he definitely can't match her "integrity" cuz 45 has none. see ya in november... You’re talking to me as if I’m a republican or something. I am not. Far from. I also reject “tribalism” and won’t vote for someone just because they belong to a cult “party” I support, or look like me, or whatever else. Neither one of them are all that bright. Let’s take them as individuals. They both are terrible. Do you believe they're the same level of "terrible"? And will you be voting for Kamala? |
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Post by AggieDad17 on Jul 23, 2024 16:18:50 GMT -5
You’re talking to me as if I’m a republican or something. I am not. Far from. I also reject “tribalism” and won’t vote for someone just because they belong to a cult “party” I support, or look like me, or whatever else. Neither one of them are all that bright. Let’s take them as individuals. They both are terrible. Do you believe they're the same level of "terrible"? And will you be voting for Kamala? I do think they are both equally terrible. And I am writing in BornThrilla for prez. |
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Post by marchingband1969 on Jul 23, 2024 17:56:37 GMT -5
Based on the racist track record of this country over the past 200+ years, Trump will win. Hey, he hates all the same people as the majority of white Americans How do you explain Obama winning two terms? The racist fell asleep on Obama. Let's face it, the Republicans ran a really crappy Presidential candidate and a god-awful Vice President. And on top of that, Bush (one tremendously incompetent dumb Republican) had tanked the economy. So, the white folks just said, let's give this mess to the sharp, intelligent negro to fix. And all would have been okay if y'all hadn't mentioned that we (Black & Brown folks) would soon outnumber white folks. And that panicked them. They envisioned that they would be the "hated minority" in this country and that struck fear in their hearts. They had done so much dirty sh*t to minorities that it struck fear in their hearts. They figure if they became the "hated minority" in America, we (Black & Brown People) would treat them like they've treating us for 200+ years. And lawd knows they couldn't survive being treated like us! So, the day Obama took office was the kickoff of the "Make America White Again" movement. And they've been on that campaign ever since. That's how you go from an intelligent, caring, compassionate and intellectual Black president to a low-life cheating scumbag. Since Obama got in office, they have done ungodly things to assure that their "hated minorities" (Black, Brown and Poor Folks) are never able to get together and elect one of our own again. The first thing they did was restrict access to voting... making it tougher for minorities and the poor to vote. And to make sure these unlawful voting restricting were not overturned, the stacked the Supreme Court with racist judges. But the most amazing strategy they took to avoid being the "hated minority" is to force white women to have more babies. Okay, I know you think I smoked too much weed in the 1960s (and I did) but let me explain. The whole anti-abortion movement is a plot to stop white women from having abortions... no abortions and the white population goes up. Think about it... if it was only Blacks and Hispanics having abortions, you wouldn't hear a peep from the white churches. Just like the crack crisis. When it was in our neighborhood, it was a crime that the police had to make arrests. When opioids hit their neighborhood, it was an epidemic that needed treatment. So, I stand by my prediction... "Based on the racist track record of this country over the past 200+ years, Trump will win." |
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Post by marchingband1969 on Jul 23, 2024 18:00:21 GMT -5
that's always a concern in this country. but there's tons of americans who don't like 45, even hillary beat him in the "popular vote" and would've won the general election had comey not put his finger on the doggone general election scale. yes, given the racist history of this country, kamala has 2 knocks against her. she's black and she's a woman. but i also think those characteristics are a plus for kamala. before biden pulled out, the black community was not as excited about biden as they were when barack ran. well, kamala's excitement in the black community is darn near on the same level as obama's was which means the black vote will "go thru the roof". might even exceed obama! however, not only will the black vote "go thru the roof", but so will the "female vote" and the "female vote" is larger than the male vote. so while i believe you have "valid" concerns, i think kamala can overcome those obstacles... So you believe that most people vote solely on their race and gender preferences over policy? In that case, you’re not necessarily against racism if your side wins, correct? I believe that voters fall into several categories... #1: voters that cast their vote for the candidate they believe can do the best job for the country #2: Voters that vote for whoever their party nominates and #3: voters that vote for the candidate that will do the best job for people like themselves. #4: Voters that vote for any candidate that hates the same people they hate and will do them more harm. By the way, this hate is often based on racism! Today's Republican party in my opinion, consists mostly of voters in category #2 & #4! |
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Post by marchingband1969 on Jul 23, 2024 18:22:10 GMT -5
that's always a concern in this country. but there's tons of americans who don't like 45, even hillary beat him in the "popular vote" and would've won the general election had comey not put his finger on the doggone general election scale. yes, given the racist history of this country, kamala has 2 knocks against her. she's black and she's a woman. but i also think those characteristics are a plus for kamala. before biden pulled out, the black community was not as excited about biden as they were when barack ran. well, kamala's excitement in the black community is darn near on the same level as obama's was which means the black vote will "go thru the roof". might even exceed obama! however, not only will the black vote "go thru the roof", but so will the "female vote" and the "female vote" is larger than the male vote. so while i believe you have "valid" concerns, i think kamala can overcome those obstacles... So you believe that most people vote solely on their race and gender preferences over policy? In that case, you’re not necessarily against racism if your side wins, correct? Let me correct you on something I believe... the vast number of white women will not vote for a woman...especially a Black woman. Sisterhood only goes so far and when it comes to the vote, white women will still vote for Scumbag 45! No matter how bad Scumbag 45 is, they know they are still white and they will benefit from whatever he does. I don't know why but they just will. Their "whiteness" overrides being a woman. Go back and look at how white women tried to exclude Black women in the struggle for the vote for women. All I will tell you... they not like us! |
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Post by bluehaze on Jul 23, 2024 18:26:08 GMT -5
Do you believe they're the same level of "terrible"? And will you be voting for Kamala? I do think they are both equally terrible. And I am writing in BornThrilla for prez. A felon, racist, accused pedophile who stacked the Supreme Court, got rid of Affirmative Action and took away women's right is in no galaxy the same level of "terrible" as Kamala. |
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jul 23, 2024 18:57:41 GMT -5
Democrats have won 3 out of the last 4 presidential elections. I have a hard time believing the only reason Obama served 2 terms is because racist people fell asleep. There were actually more white people who voted for Obama each time than black people. I have no clue what will happen in November but I think it is way too easy to categorize the voters in this election as racist vs non-racists.
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