A&T-roy
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Post by A&T-roy on Jul 12, 2024 0:54:34 GMT -5
Look bruh…they couldn’t stop Central in the 2nd half, PERIOD! Now, you can fact check all you want but, the game was out of reach with 10 minutes left in the game. Again, in theory, it’s a good thought but, not practical. Lastly, they didn’t lose those games because the fans didn’t cheer so…what are we really talking about? Of course, I'm gonna fact check. Especially when it's not what i remembered. The FACTS are that we did stop them in the 2nd half 2 times. So you believe a 2 TD game is out of reach with 10 minutes left? #Smh There are MANY games where teams score 2 TDs in 10 minutes...even in 2 minutes. No theory. Also, sports is unpredictable. You never really know what might happen. Especially when your team sees you're still supporting them. I buck "practicality" until things are really over. What we're talking about is you making up your own realities to try to fit your own narrative about what happened and why people didn't cheer.
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Post by planoaggie on Jul 12, 2024 1:18:56 GMT -5
Fan support is great but not a necessity for teams or players to play to win. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a player wanting the fans to cheer louder or more often during the games, but the wins and losses are decided on the field.
Bottom line is that winning tends to increase more fan support and vice versa where increase fan support tends to lead to more win.
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Post by ohsixrain on Jul 12, 2024 7:13:28 GMT -5
Look bruh…they couldn’t stop Central in the 2nd half, PERIOD! Now, you can fact check all you want but, the game was out of reach with 10 minutes left in the game. Again, in theory, it’s a good thought but, not practical. Lastly, they didn’t lose those games because the fans didn’t cheer so…what are we really talking about? Of course, I'm gonna fact check. Especially when it's not what i remembered. The FACTS are that we did stop them in the 2nd half 2 times. So you believe a 2 TD game is out of reach with 10 minutes left? #Smh There are MANY games where teams score 2 TDs in 10 minutes...even in 2 minutes. No theory. Also, sports is unpredictable. You never really know what might happen. Especially when your team sees you're still supporting them. I buck "practicality" until things are really over. What we're talking about is you making up your own realities to try to fit your own narrative about what happened and why people didn't cheer. Yes the game was out of reach because, of how the game was being played IE. Central controlling to ball and running it down our throats and our offense not being able to pass the ball at all. Now you can sit here rationalize how we were still in the game all you want but, I will just believe my lying eyes. Let's keep it real...were you still cheering for the defense when Central had the ball and was running time out up by 2 TDs? I mean, Stevie Wonder could see the game was over.
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Post by KidHeartless on Jul 12, 2024 9:03:36 GMT -5
cheering was still minimal during the undefeated season........ was still called wine & cheese then........ yes they can do their jobs and improve and AT THE SAME DAMN TIME......so can we... one doesn't need to come before the other........for real fans in my opinion. we're diehards for a reason first things first! win some doggone games! did the championship contending teams complain? if so, i'd be willing to listen but i don't recall them complaining. but i ain't listening to no doggone 1-10 team. do your job on the football field "first"! ain't nobody gone be screaming their brains out if the team loses 10 outta 11 games. they should be happy that the fans "still showup". the time spent worrying about the fans should be spent worrying about the team... BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO that way of thinking is trash BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Post by KidHeartless on Jul 12, 2024 9:07:07 GMT -5
Fan support is great but not a necessity for teams or players to play to win. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a player wanting the fans to cheer louder or more often during the games, but the wins and losses are decided on the field. Bottom line is that winning tends to increase more fan support and vice versa where increase fan support tends to lead to more win. Soooo both can't be improved simultaneously. Cuz the kid definitely said in the podcast that they know they have to do THEIR PART.....
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Post by ohsixrain on Jul 12, 2024 9:21:37 GMT -5
Me personally, I make a lot of noise at all games I attend, that's just me. But, I am of the opinion, if folk pay their monies to come see a game, concert or any kind of entertainment, it takes some nerve to tell the folk that paid money what to do while they are there. That's it for me in a nutshell.
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Post by A&T-roy on Jul 12, 2024 9:27:28 GMT -5
Of course, I'm gonna fact check. Especially when it's not what i remembered. The FACTS are that we did stop them in the 2nd half 2 times. So you believe a 2 TD game is out of reach with 10 minutes left? #Smh There are MANY games where teams score 2 TDs in 10 minutes...even in 2 minutes. No theory. Also, sports is unpredictable. You never really know what might happen. Especially when your team sees you're still supporting them. I buck "practicality" until things are really over. What we're talking about is you making up your own realities to try to fit your own narrative about what happened and why people didn't cheer. Yes the game was out of reach because, of how the game was being played IE. Central controlling to ball and running it down our throats and our offense not being able to pass the ball at all. Now you can sit here rationalize how we were still in the game all you want but, I will just believe my lying eyes. Let's keep it real...were you still cheering for the defense when Central had the ball and was running time out up by 2 TDs? I mean, Stevie Wonder could see the game was over. The game was NOT out of reach at the 10 minute mark, or even the 2 minute mark...no matter what had already happened or was happening at the time. Things change moment to moment in sports. The other team could mentally take their foot off the gas "thinking" the game is over. Even Stevie knows that. What if Yeager had hit a short slant and the receiver broken through and scored at the 9 minute mark (down by 1 TD with 9 mins to go)? And I could name several different single plays that could accomplish the 1st TD. I would hate for you to be my teammate. You must not have been an athlete and or know sports.
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Post by A&T-roy on Jul 12, 2024 9:40:57 GMT -5
Me personally, I make a lot of noise at all games I attend, that's just me. But, I am of the opinion, if folk pay their monies to come see a game, concert or any kind of entertainment, it takes some nerve to tell the folk that paid money what to do while they are there. That's it for me in a nutshell. Ty clearly said he's ASKING, not TELLING. And the other players agreed. Also he was being very careful and recognizing what happened last year, etc. Also, it looks like we only have a snippet of the whole conversation. We don't know the question that was asked, by who, the context, etc. What if they were responding to a question like: From a game environment standpoint, what would you like to be better from the fans, the band, the announcer, etc?
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Post by A&T-roy on Jul 12, 2024 9:43:39 GMT -5
Yes the game was out of reach because, of how the game was being played IE. Central controlling to ball and running it down our throats and our offense not being able to pass the ball at all. Now you can sit here rationalize how we were still in the game all you want but, I will just believe my lying eyes. Let's keep it real...were you still cheering for the defense when Central had the ball and was running time out up by 2 TDs? I mean, Stevie Wonder could see the game was over. The game was NOT out of reach at the 10 minute mark, or even the 2 minute mark...no matter what had already happened or was happening at the time. Things change moment to moment in sports. The other team could mentally take their foot off the gas "thinking" the game is over. Expect even Stevie knows that. What if Yeager had hit a short slant and the receiver broken through and scored at the 9 minute mark (down by 1 TD with 9 mins to go)? And I could name several different single plays that could accomplish the 1st TD. I would hate for you to be my teammate. You must not have been an athlete and or know sports.
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Post by planoaggie on Jul 12, 2024 9:44:57 GMT -5
Fan support is great but not a necessity for teams or players to play to win. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a player wanting the fans to cheer louder or more often during the games, but the wins and losses are decided on the field. Bottom line is that winning tends to increase more fan support and vice versa where increase fan support tends to lead to more win. Soooo both can't be improved simultaneously. Cuz the kid definitely said in the podcast that they know they have to do THEIR PART..... That is exactly what I am saying that they are closely coupled together and "can" improve simultaneously. They just do not have to move up or down at the same rate. Not exactly Newton's 3rd law, but the action-reaction theory applies except they don't have to be "equal".
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Post by ohsixrain on Jul 12, 2024 12:52:45 GMT -5
Yes the game was out of reach because, of how the game was being played IE. Central controlling to ball and running it down our throats and our offense not being able to pass the ball at all. Now you can sit here rationalize how we were still in the game all you want but, I will just believe my lying eyes. Let's keep it real...were you still cheering for the defense when Central had the ball and was running time out up by 2 TDs? I mean, Stevie Wonder could see the game was over. The game was NOT out of reach at the 10 minute mark, or even the 2 minute mark...no matter what had already happened or was happening at the time. Things change moment to moment in sports. The other team could mentally take their foot off the gas "thinking" the game is over. Even Stevie knows that. What if Yeager had hit a short slant and the receiver broken through and scored at the 9 minute mark (down by 1 TD with 9 mins to go)? And I could name several different single plays that could accomplish the 1st TD. I would hate for you to be my teammate. You must not have been an athlete and or know sports. Hey my brotha, I know you went to "T" when Scott Hall was still standing and what was the ole saying we used to say? "IF....I had a 5th, I'd be drunk!"
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Post by ohsixrain on Jul 12, 2024 12:54:55 GMT -5
Me personally, I make a lot of noise at all games I attend, that's just me. But, I am of the opinion, if folk pay their monies to come see a game, concert or any kind of entertainment, it takes some nerve to tell the folk that paid money what to do while they are there. That's it for me in a nutshell. Ty clearly said he's ASKING, not TELLING. And the other players agreed. Also he was being very careful and recognizing what happened last year, etc. Also, it looks like we only have a snippet of the whole conversation. We don't know the question that was asked, by who, the context, etc. What if they were responding to a question like: From a game environment standpoint, what would you like to be better from the fans, the band, the announcer, etc? All I saying in fairness is, it's gotta make sense. While you are wanting all this fan participation which, I truly understand. There has to be something for the fans to make noise about and only they can make that happen.
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Post by A&T-roy on Jul 12, 2024 13:16:12 GMT -5
The game was NOT out of reach at the 10 minute mark, or even the 2 minute mark...no matter what had already happened or was happening at the time. Things change moment to moment in sports. The other team could mentally take their foot off the gas "thinking" the game is over. Even Stevie knows that. What if Yeager had hit a short slant and the receiver broken through and scored at the 9 minute mark (down by 1 TD with 9 mins to go)? And I could name several different single plays that could accomplish the 1st TD. I would hate for you to be my teammate. You must not have been an athlete and or know sports. Hey my brotha, I know you went to "T" when Scott Hall was still standing and what was the ole saying we used to say? "IF....I had a 5th, I'd be drunk!" I said what I said. You're wrong and can only say what you're saying after the fact.
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Post by A&T-roy on Jul 12, 2024 13:19:50 GMT -5
Ty clearly said he's ASKING, not TELLING. And the other players agreed. Also he was being very careful and recognizing what happened last year, etc. Also, it looks like we only have a snippet of the whole conversation. We don't know the question that was asked, by who, the context, etc. What if they were responding to a question like: From a game environment standpoint, what would you like to be better from the fans, the band, the announcer, etc? All I saying in fairness is, it's gotta make sense. While you are wanting all this fan participation which, I truly understand. There has to be something for the fans to make noise about and only they can make that happen. Couple things: 1. 3rd down is a time for fans to make noise. 2. EVERY play that the opposing team has the ball is a time to make noise...so they can't hear plays being called, snap counts, etc. But then again, maybe you don't know that.
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Post by marchingband1969 on Jul 12, 2024 14:00:11 GMT -5
Hey, let's face it... our A&T football fanbase has gotten really old. And the older I get the less I want to jump up and down yelling and shouting at football games. I'm sorry, but that's just not me. When I was younger, yeah, I'd shout, cuss and bang the seats to make noise but not now. I'll show up for all the games and continue to make donations to support the teams but don't expect me (us old farts) to rock the stadium with Noise.
So, if you want the fans to make more noise, you better market our games to a younger crowd... fans that are eager to raise hell in the stadium. Give away some prizes and gifts that will entice the students to show up for the games. Give discounts on tickets to get the local football fans to attend the game. We have neglected to grow our fanbase outside of our die-hard Aggie fans and they have gotten too old to create noise.
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