oleschoolaggie
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 11, 2024 13:29:28 GMT -5
I agree with the young man but, here we go! You know the band is gonna take it personal if you say they need to do more. And the casual fan will probably say, "Give us something to cheer about!" So, it becomes how many diehard fans do we actually have...? The fan that will spend 3.5 hours sitting in the rain to watch us get smoked by a Richmond or William & Mary. Those would be your diehards and I dare say, we don't have many. nuf said, says it all. first of all, a 1-10 team ain't gone improve the a&t fan culture for the better. and second of all, a 1-10 team should be glad that our fans even still show up, much less cheer. and third of all, a 1-10 team got some "nerve" to complain that fans ain't doing their jobs when they themselves ain't doing their jobs. before complaining about our fans, how 'bout the team do their jobs first, which is to "win games". the last thing on this planet that a 1-10 team should complain about is our fans' vocal reactions at our games. can you imagine lee fobbs' teams complaining about our fans' lack of participation? let those previous "championship contending" teams complain about our fans if they feel that way. but the last thing i wanna hear from a 1-10 team is them not being satisfied with our fans' vocal participation at games. win some doggone games, give the fans something to be excited about, and then you'll be justified to complain...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 11, 2024 13:34:00 GMT -5
GO BACK OT THE MEAC would help can't say anything "positive" about the meac on this message board, else there are vultures out there who will "immediately" attack you for taking up for hbcu's...
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Post by KidHeartless on Jul 11, 2024 13:40:29 GMT -5
I agree with the young man but, here we go! You know the band is gonna take it personal if you say they need to do more. And the casual fan will probably say, "Give us something to cheer about!" So, it becomes how many diehard fans do we actually have...? The fan that will spend 3.5 hours sitting in the rain to watch us get smoked by a Richmond or William & Mary. Those would be your diehards and I dare say, we don't have many. nuf said, says it all. first of all, a 1-10 team ain't gone improve the a&t fan culture for the better. and second of all, a 1-10 team should be glad that our fans even still show up, much less cheer. and third of all, a 1-10 team got some "nerve" to complain that fans ain't doing their jobs when they themselves ain't doing their jobs. before complaining about our fans, how 'bout the team do their jobs first, which is to "win games". the last thing on this planet that a 1-10 team should complain about is our fans' vocal reactions at our games. can you imagine lee fobbs' teams complaining about our fans' lack of participation? let those previous "championship contending" teams complain about our fans if they feel that way. but the last thing i wanna hear from a 1-10 team is them not being satisfied with our fans' vocal participation at games. win some doggone games, give the fans something to be excited about, and then you'll be justified to complain... cheering was still minimal during the undefeated season........ was still called wine & cheese then........ yes they can do their jobs and improve and AT THE SAME DAMN TIME......so can we... one doesn't need to come before the other........for real fans in my opinion. we're diehards for a reason
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Post by aggie2039 on Jul 11, 2024 13:43:30 GMT -5
GO BACK OT THE MEAC would help can't say anything "positive" about the meac on this message board, else there are vultures out there who will "immediately" attack you for taking up for hbcu's... The meac isn't HBCUs....it is a conference
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 11, 2024 14:09:26 GMT -5
nuf said, says it all. first of all, a 1-10 team ain't gone improve the a&t fan culture for the better. and second of all, a 1-10 team should be glad that our fans even still show up, much less cheer. and third of all, a 1-10 team got some "nerve" to complain that fans ain't doing their jobs when they themselves ain't doing their jobs. before complaining about our fans, how 'bout the team do their jobs first, which is to "win games". the last thing on this planet that a 1-10 team should complain about is our fans' vocal reactions at our games. can you imagine lee fobbs' teams complaining about our fans' lack of participation? let those previous "championship contending" teams complain about our fans if they feel that way. but the last thing i wanna hear from a 1-10 team is them not being satisfied with our fans' vocal participation at games. win some doggone games, give the fans something to be excited about, and then you'll be justified to complain... cheering was still minimal during the undefeated season........ was still called wine & cheese then........ yes they can do their jobs and improve and AT THE SAME DAMN TIME......so can we... one doesn't need to come before the other........for real fans in my opinion. we're diehards for a reason first things first! win some doggone games! did the championship contending teams complain? if so, i'd be willing to listen but i don't recall them complaining. but i ain't listening to no doggone 1-10 team. do your job on the football field "first"! ain't nobody gone be screaming their brains out if the team loses 10 outta 11 games. they should be happy that the fans "still showup". the time spent worrying about the fans should be spent worrying about the team...
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Post by blessedaggie84 on Jul 11, 2024 14:34:26 GMT -5
cheering was still minimal during the undefeated season........ was still called wine & cheese then........ yes they can do their jobs and improve and AT THE SAME DAMN TIME......so can we... one doesn't need to come before the other........for real fans in my opinion. we're diehards for a reason first things first! win some doggone games! did the championship contending teams complain? if so, i'd be willing to listen but i don't recall them complaining. but i ain't listening to no doggone 1-10 team. do your job on the football field "first"! ain't nobody gone be screaming their brains out if the team loses 10 outta 11 games. they should be happy that the fans "still showup". the time spent worrying about the fans should be spent worrying about the team... That sounds messed up as an "Aggie Supporter" I thought having "Aggie Pride" would mean supporting our student athletes through the good and bad. Not listening to our student athletes because of a 1-10 season is showing being a fair weather for sure. This falls into what everyone has been talking about. Think of the students and not our own personal thoughts on a record. Yes you can not show up and not give and all that stuff. As Aggies we talk about being different yelling "Aggie Pride!!" and "Aggies Do!!" show it and yell and get everyone else around you involved even if it makes us uncomfortable.
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Post by moaggies5 on Jul 11, 2024 15:03:05 GMT -5
The difference between FANatic and supporter.
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Post by ohsixrain on Jul 11, 2024 16:02:00 GMT -5
first things first! win some doggone games! did the championship contending teams complain? if so, i'd be willing to listen but i don't recall them complaining. but i ain't listening to no doggone 1-10 team. do your job on the football field "first"! ain't nobody gone be screaming their brains out if the team loses 10 outta 11 games. they should be happy that the fans "still showup". the time spent worrying about the fans should be spent worrying about the team... That sounds messed up as an "Aggie Supporter" I thought having "Aggie Pride" would mean supporting our student athletes through the good and bad. Not listening to our student athletes because of a 1-10 season is showing being a fair weather for sure. This falls into what everyone has been talking about. Think of the students and not our own personal thoughts on a record. Yes you can not show up and not give and all that stuff. As Aggies we talk about being different yelling "Aggie Pride!!" and "Aggies Do!!" show it and yell and get everyone else around you involved even if it makes us uncomfortable. I get what you are saying....it makes sense in theory. But, from a practical standpoint I don't think it works. Let's keep it real...the NCCU game the fans were supporter and cheering. Every time we needed a 3rd down stop, we failed to get it AND the crowd was standing and cheering. Then, the game got out of reach...so the 3rd downs from that point on really didn't have an impact on the game. That's what's missing in the whole conversation, "IMPACT!" We played Villanova and failed to stop them and the game got out of reach. So then it becomes, at what point are you NOT making an impact on the game by cheering. If you are down, 33-10 and you want the fans to cheer the defense on to stop them from getting a first down, just not practical. That's why Oleschool said, take care of your job as players first and the crowd will eventually do its part. Again...I'll do my part.
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Post by pj on Jul 11, 2024 17:38:32 GMT -5
First, Free up the Cowbells. ( I got tired of slipping mine in the Stadium). For 3rd downs. Although the Announcer says “Aggie Nation, it’s 3rd Down “.
On the real side. We are Wine & Cheese. I hate to admit it. ( except when we are playing NCCU. Basketball has gotten better, but football, in many cases, shows that many of us are not watching the game. Or recognize an upcoming big play for the most part.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 11, 2024 18:43:40 GMT -5
first things first! win some doggone games! did the championship contending teams complain? if so, i'd be willing to listen but i don't recall them complaining. but i ain't listening to no doggone 1-10 team. do your job on the football field "first"! ain't nobody gone be screaming their brains out if the team loses 10 outta 11 games. they should be happy that the fans "still showup". the time spent worrying about the fans should be spent worrying about the team... That sounds messed up as an "Aggie Supporter" I thought having "Aggie Pride" would mean supporting our student athletes through the good and bad. Not listening to our student athletes because of a 1-10 season is showing being a fair weather for sure. This falls into what everyone has been talking about. Think of the students and not our own personal thoughts on a record. Yes you can not show up and not give and all that stuff. As Aggies we talk about being different yelling "Aggie Pride!!" and "Aggies Do!!" show it and yell and get everyone else around you involved even if it makes us uncomfortable. fair weather my azz! folk who have been on this message board since the fobbs days would know that i never stopped supporting aggie football "throughout" the entire 27 game losing streak. where were you during the 27 game losing streak? go back and look at some of the threads during the fobbs era and you'll find that i was dayum near a "lone soldier" when it came to supporting those fobbs teams. i was the aggie who told fobbs' players heading to the locker room after a tough loss to "keep their heads up" (the morgan state loss comes to memory). i don't recall any other aggie supporters doing that "except me". where were you? so just because i believe that the absolute last thing a 1-10 team should be doing is complaining about "the fans", doesn't make me a "fair weather fan". if you disagree, that's fine. but that doesn't make me a "fair weather fan". "nobody" on this entire sweet planet earth can "truthfully" call me a "fair weather fan" and i mean "noooooooo-body". so go somewhere with that "bs". the team loss 10 games and only won 1 game by just "2 points". i don't wanna hear nothing about the doggone fans not doing their jobs until you yourself do yours, period, point blank, full stop! i would luv to have seen the expression on coach broadway's face if his team went 1-10 and all his players complained about were "the fans". sorry, i don't believe in "baby sitting" a 1-10 team. stop "crying" about the fans, put your "big boy" pants on and kick some azz on the football field before you start worrying about "the fans"...
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Post by The Professor on Jul 11, 2024 19:16:56 GMT -5
First, Free up the Cowbells. ( I got tired of slipping mine in the Stadium). For 3rd downs. Although the Announcer says “Aggie Nation, it’s 3rd Down “. On the real side. We are Wine & Cheese. I hate to admit it. ( except when we are playing NCCU. Basketball has gotten better, but football, in many cases, shows that many of us are not watching the game. Or recognize an upcoming big play for the most part. Doesn't it feel better to just admit it. It's like a release lol.
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Post by A&T-roy on Jul 11, 2024 21:56:40 GMT -5
That sounds messed up as an "Aggie Supporter" I thought having "Aggie Pride" would mean supporting our student athletes through the good and bad. Not listening to our student athletes because of a 1-10 season is showing being a fair weather for sure. This falls into what everyone has been talking about. Think of the students and not our own personal thoughts on a record. Yes you can not show up and not give and all that stuff. As Aggies we talk about being different yelling "Aggie Pride!!" and "Aggies Do!!" show it and yell and get everyone else around you involved even if it makes us uncomfortable. I get what you are saying....it makes sense in theory. But, from a practical standpoint I don't think it works. Let's keep it real...the NCCU game the fans were supporter and cheering. Every time we needed a 3rd down stop, we failed to get it AND the crowd was standing and cheering. Then, the game got out of reach...so the 3rd downs from that point on really didn't have an impact on the game. That's what's missing in the whole conversation, "IMPACT!" We played Villanova and failed to stop them and the game got out of reach. So then it becomes, at what point are you NOT making an impact on the game by cheering. If you are down, 33-10 and you want the fans to cheer the defense on to stop them from getting a first down, just not practical. That's why Oleschool said, take care of your job as players first and the crowd will eventually do its part. Again...I'll do my part. Couple questions: 1. At what point do you believe the NCCU game was out of reach? 2. At what point did you believe the Campbell GHOE game was out of reach (14-0, 21-7 or 28-10 at the half, like a lot of people that left early)? AND it's NOT true that we didn't get a 3rd down stop EVERY time. What game did you attend? Your point about the team doing their job first is part of the problem. The fans need to be in it from the beginning and not give up so easily.
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Post by ohsixrain on Jul 11, 2024 22:20:44 GMT -5
Look bruh…they couldn’t stop Central in the 2nd half, PERIOD! Now, you can fact check all you want but, the game was out of reach with 10 minutes left in the game. Again, in theory, it’s a good thought but, not practical. Lastly, they didn’t lose those games because the fans didn’t cheer so…what are we really talking about?
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Post by bluehaze on Jul 11, 2024 22:51:57 GMT -5
The player was just asking for more energy from the fans and he’s right. Other than the occasional stomping of feet during third downs it’s dead in the stands.
He’s not blaming the fans or saying that we cause them to not tackle. It’s called home field advantage for a reason. We should make it uncomfortable for the opposing team.
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Post by blessedaggie84 on Jul 11, 2024 22:55:40 GMT -5
That sounds messed up as an "Aggie Supporter" I thought having "Aggie Pride" would mean supporting our student athletes through the good and bad. Not listening to our student athletes because of a 1-10 season is showing being a fair weather for sure. This falls into what everyone has been talking about. Think of the students and not our own personal thoughts on a record. Yes you can not show up and not give and all that stuff. As Aggies we talk about being different yelling "Aggie Pride!!" and "Aggies Do!!" show it and yell and get everyone else around you involved even if it makes us uncomfortable. fair weather my azz! folk who have been on this message board since the fobbs days would know that i never stopped supporting aggie football "throughout" the entire 27 game losing streak. where were you during the 27 game losing streak? go back and look at some of the threads during the fobbs era and you'll find that i was dayum near a "lone soldier" when it came to supporting those fobbs teams. i was the aggie who told fobbs' players heading to the locker room after a tough loss to "keep their heads up" (the morgan state loss comes to memory). i don't recall any other aggie supporters doing that "except me". where were you? so just because i believe that the absolute last thing a 1-10 team should be doing is complaining about "the fans", doesn't make me a "fair weather fan". if you disagree, that's fine. but that doesn't make me a "fair weather fan". "nobody" on this entire sweet planet earth can "truthfully" call me a "fair weather fan" and i mean "noooooooo-body". so go somewhere with that "bs". the team loss 10 games and only won 1 game by just "2 points". i don't wanna hear nothing about the doggone fans not doing their jobs until you yourself do yours, period, point blank, full stop! i would luv to have seen the expression on coach broadway's face if his team went 1-10 and all his players complained about were "the fans". sorry, i don't believe in "baby sitting" a 1-10 team. stop "crying" about the fans, put your "big boy" pants on and kick some azz on the football field before you start worrying about "the fans"... I was present during the fobb error and I am sure the team then was happy you were there supporting them. I was actually in the stands in the band supporting and cheering for the team as well during that time. I dont need to check your track record on if you were supporting at anytime because you mentioned it multiple times on this platform. How ohsixrain explained it I understood where you both are coming from, you want to see a winning product more. My question is you were there supporting/encouraging and cheering on the 0-27 team what is wrong with doing it now as well? It seems we have student athletes that are vocal and have an ask of the fans and crowd engagement. This is a new season coming up, the 1-10 team was last year and gone, the 2017 undefeated team came and went as well. Again, our student athletes are asking for more crowd support for THIS year, i truly believe the players will go out and do their part because they have something to prove to themselves. Oldschoolaggie, you will be there and do your part and that is great. My issue as it appeared to me like you are putting down our student athletes that bust they tail everyday in practice and just because they had a 1-10 season last year we are dismissing an ask for this year. As more of a lurker on here and getting into posting more I may not agree with all the stuff you say but do admire your conviction to some topics. Keep doing you bro.
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