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Post by aggie2039 on Jul 1, 2024 9:04:29 GMT -5
If there is no difference in HBCU's and PWI's culture why do we need HBCU's? Our culture is what makes us important, assimilation IMO is the goal of White minds, fear factors, are real, to infuse trauma and victimization, to constantly destroy the idea and the power of collectivism, In a room of decision makers where white minds are the majority for business money, and power if we are cutting costs, and we have two things that are similar, the argument is strong for the majority and following the golden rule. AGGIE2039 is a billboard for PWI's and white minded authority, presenting himself as a successful blackman. See the history of Bluefield State University listed and defined as a HBCU, where the student body is 90% white, yet the Alumni are listed as 100% black. In the early years of its establishment, black students had to protest on campus for the inclusion of their culture and the benefits of a HBCU. Elon Musk suggest that black people stop talking about the history of slavery, I dare anyone to suggest this to the Jews. The Jews don't tell the story of the black people who suffered the same atrocities in Germany, and were forbidden to live in cross-cultural black cultured relationships. Blackmen were imprisoned and their children sent off to camps similar to prisons. This government treats black america as they treat Africa, the discussions at the presidential debate are an example, they openly promote the disadvantages without the successes or creations of ingenuity and scholarly contributions. Their are African cities that are more advanced than American cities and America is recruiting African scientists and forcing them to identify as white. White minds will white wash everything through power and mental assimilation. They are the BORG!(Star Trek) HBCUs are not needed, HBCUs are a nice to have. Again, when did you graduate from A&T? Odds are you are really out of touch and extremely scared from the past. People like you are why black people are not excelling, always making excuses and consistently living in the past. Africans, Jamaicans and other from the diaspora do not have your mindset, hence the reason why they are outpacing black Americans. lol
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Post by aggiestats on Jul 1, 2024 10:12:45 GMT -5
If there is no difference in HBCU's and PWI's culture why do we need HBCU's? Our culture is what makes us important, assimilation IMO is the goal of White minds, fear factors, are real, to infuse trauma and victimization, to constantly destroy the idea and the power of collectivism, In a room of decision makers where white minds are the majority for business money, and power if we are cutting costs, and we have two things that are similar, the argument is strong for the majority and following the golden rule. AGGIE2039 is a billboard for PWI's and white minded authority, presenting himself as a successful blackman. See the history of Bluefield State University listed and defined as a HBCU, where the student body is 90% white, yet the Alumni are listed as 100% black. In the early years of its establishment, black students had to protest on campus for the inclusion of their culture and the benefits of a HBCU. Elon Musk suggest that black people stop talking about the history of slavery, I dare anyone to suggest this to the Jews. The Jews don't tell the story of the black people who suffered the same atrocities in Germany, and were forbidden to live in cross-cultural black cultured relationships. Blackmen were imprisoned and their children sent off to camps similar to prisons. This government treats black america as they treat Africa, the discussions at the presidential debate are an example, they openly promote the disadvantages without the successes or creations of ingenuity and scholarly contributions. Their are African cities that are more advanced than American cities and America is recruiting African scientists and forcing them to identify as white. White minds will white wash everything through power and mental assimilation. They are the BORG!(Star Trek) HBCUs are not needed, HBCUs are a nice to have. Again, when did you graduate from A&T? Odds are you are really out of touch and extremely scared from the past. People like you are why black people are not excelling, always making excuses and consistently living in the past. Africans, Jamaicans and other from the diaspora do not have your mindset, hence the reason why they are outpacing black Americans. lol I have to vehemently disagree with you on HBCUs being not needed. As a professional in STEM, without HBCUs we wouldn't have the small number of blacks that we do have in fields like physics, mathematics, chemistry, and biology. HBCUs are critical to creating diversity of thought in fields dominated by white males. Without HBCUs, blacks would be relegated to the "black jobs" that Trump thinks we work. It's a reason that the National Science Foundation supports HBCUs. Our impact goes way beyond our enrollment.
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Post by aggie2039 on Jul 1, 2024 10:16:15 GMT -5
HBCUs are not needed, HBCUs are a nice to have. Again, when did you graduate from A&T? Odds are you are really out of touch and extremely scared from the past. People like you are why black people are not excelling, always making excuses and consistently living in the past. Africans, Jamaicans and other from the diaspora do not have your mindset, hence the reason why they are outpacing black Americans. lol I have to vehemently disagree with you on HBCUs being not needed. As a professional in STEM, without HBCUs we wouldn't have the small number of blacks that we do have in fields like physics, mathematics, chemistry, and biology. HBCUs are critical to creating diversity of thought in fields dominated by white males. Without HBCUs, blacks would be relegated to the "black jobs" that Trump thinks we work. It's a reason that the National Science Foundation supports HBCUs. Our impact goes way beyond our enrollment. I disagree, without HBCUs black students would attend other colleges. If there was no A&T, students would attend UNCC, UNCG, UNCW, NC State, UNC... Black people can major in STEM at PWIs, it is not illegal. Furthermore, let's not play naive...black jobs Trump is referring to is for the non educated black people. Majority of black people do not attend or graduate college so there needs to be jobs for them. My uncles worked at a chicken plant and printing company for years, those are good paying jobs for black people with no degree. Now those jobs are being done by illegal immigrants at less pay and benefits.
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Post by A&T AGGIE 96 on Jul 1, 2024 10:40:15 GMT -5
I’m in disbelief at some of this stuff.
As a Black engineer, I can tell you first hand that without HBCUs the numbers (small) of black people in STEM fields would be even lower. I’ve worked as an engineer since graduating back in 1996 and the black folk I’ve run into as my various employers were graduates of NCAT, Howard, Morgan, etc.
Sure, we can go to any school we like, but HBCUs do it better. Hell, I even started my engineering studies at UNCC before transferring to NCAT. It was a much better school and engineering program.
The same can be said for many other fields of study.
HBCUs are national treasures…they are available to all, but focus on us as a group. I live and work in the Raleigh area, and spent time living and working in Charlotte after graduation.
If NCAT disappeared tomorrow NCST or UNCC ain’t trying to pick up the slack of STEM students at NCAT. They could care less…it’s never been their focus, and it’s not a priority.
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Post by aggie2039 on Jul 1, 2024 10:50:22 GMT -5
My point still stands, black students would attend other colleges.
It is not illegal for black people to major in STEM at non hbcus.
Just like there are no historically Asian, African, Indian or Jamaican colleges yet they still attend college, major in STEM and graduate.
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Post by DOOMS on Jul 1, 2024 11:17:48 GMT -5
Furthermore, let's not play naive...black jobs Trump is referring to is for the non educated black people. Majority of black people do not attend or graduate college so there needs to be jobs for them. My uncles worked at a chicken plant and printing company for years, those are good paying jobs for black people with no degree. Now those jobs are being done by illegal immigrants at less pay and benefits. So do you believe the terminology "Black jobs" is correct? I was DEEPLY insulted by terming what should've been referred to as entry-level or manual labor jobs as "Black jobs." And I'm generally not easily offended at all. As far as the need for hbcus, I needed to attend one and that's why I chose to go to one. I can't answer whether in the grand scheme of humanity they're needed, but had I attended a pwi I'm not certain I would've completed undergrad or law school despite the fact I was smart enough to complete both. At the hbcus I attended some of the professors took a personal interest in me, saw my potential, and encouraged me to mature and continue with my studies so I could meet my promise. As far as sundown towns and pwis, I don't get it. Perhaps if towns that were sundown towns that actually contained pwis were listed I could see it, but being 20 miles away basically means one has no correlation to the other imo.
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Post by aggie2039 on Jul 1, 2024 11:31:27 GMT -5
Furthermore, let's not play naive...black jobs Trump is referring to is for the non educated black people. Majority of black people do not attend or graduate college so there needs to be jobs for them. My uncles worked at a chicken plant and printing company for years, those are good paying jobs for black people with no degree. Now those jobs are being done by illegal immigrants at less pay and benefits. So do you believe the terminology "Black jobs" is correct? I was DEEPLY insulted by terming what should've been referred to as entry-level or manual labor jobs as "Black jobs." And I'm generally not easily offended at all. As far as the need for hbcus, I needed to attend one and that's why I chose to go to one. I can't answer whether in the grand scheme of humanity they're needed, but had I attended a pwi I'm not certain I would've completed undergrad or law school despite the fact I was smart enough to complete both. At the hbcus I attended some of the professors took a personal interest in me, saw my potential, and encouraged me to mature and continue with my studies so I could meet my promise. As far as sundown towns and pwis, I don't get it. Perhaps if towns that were sundown towns that actually contained pwis were listed I could see it, but being 20 miles away basically means one has no correlation to the other imo. I agree "black jobs" was not the most politically correct way of getting his point across however it was straight forward. Looking past the words people understand his point, immigrants are taking jobs away from black people that do not require a degree. Are they taking "white jobs" too, definitely but he is looking to get blacks without degrees to vote for him. He already knows that poor whites are anti-immigration, he is trying to reach poor blacks that continuously vote democrat. in which the democrats are pro-immigration. Did you need a HBCU or a person to take interest in you and a smaller class setting? Would you have reached your full potential at a HBCU if the professors did not take an interest in you?
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Post by DOOMS on Jul 1, 2024 16:16:24 GMT -5
1. I'm not even seeing the term as politically incorrect as I couldn't give two shits about political correctness. I see it as insulting as hell and heavily insinuating that Black people are only fit for entry level jobs. My belief is he knew it too and played to his base with the statement, i.e., under me the Blacks will get the low level jobs they are intended to perform and will not threaten to take higher level jobs from you and your offspring. And Old Joe went right along with it.
2. That man is definitely not trying to reach poor Blacks, other than making sure they never rise above their level. A "friend" of mine posted pictures of him with various Black folks and a caption stating "supposedly Trump is racist but explain this." I noted that I failed to see any pictures of him with anyone that wasn't a millionaire. The bottom line is he has no time for anyone who can't help his bottom line.
3. I needed someone to take interest in me. The smaller class setting helped. There are chances that I could've had a similar experience at a pwc, but I think those chances are slim. Having attended what was at the time a majority white high school, the only teachers that took an interest in me there were the Black ones. The white ones at best found me interesting. There is a difference. Even a few white professors at T gave me additional assignments outside of regular work to push me further. I believe it was their character and their environment that caused them to want to see me live up to my full potential.
4. Nope. I'm not sure I would've graduated. I definitely would not have attended law school. And if I did graduate it would have been a full year after I actually did graduate. Georgia Tech and Temple would've have kicked me out and shut the door behind me with what I showed my first two years at T.
Now I'm curious. Are there ANY PWIs located in a Sundown town or even within 10 miles of one?
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jul 1, 2024 17:46:12 GMT -5
I think when people admittedly dont care that much about the unique history of black people and believe cultural assimilation should be the ultimate goal, it is easy to overlook the value of HBCUs in particular and black institutions in general. There actually is a pretty good book I would recommend for anyone seeking more information about that topic. www.amazon.com/Shelter-Time-Storm-Generations-Leadership/dp/1469648334![](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81btZwuFlfL._SY522_.jpg)
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