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Post by bseballaggie on Jun 26, 2024 5:18:34 GMT -5
"I do not understand what is so different about HBCU culture as compared to a PWI..." AGGIE2039!
Sundown towns are municipalities that, through formal or informal measures, exclude African Americans and other minorities after dark.
Examples of Sundown Towns and Nearby PWIs:
Forsyth County, Georgia: This county was known for its history as a sundown town. Notably, the town of Cumming in Forsyth County was infamous for violent racial expulsions in 1912. Nearby PWIs include:
University of North Georgia (UNG): With campuses in Dahlonega, Gainesville, and Cumming, UNG is a prominent institution in this region.
Martinsville, Indiana: Known for its sundown town history, Martinsville is in proximity to:
Indiana University Bloomington: A significant PWI located about 30 miles from Martinsville.
Elwood, Indiana: Another town with a documented sundown history, located near:
Ball State University: Situated in Muncie, Indiana, this university is not far from Elwood.
Huntington, Indiana: Also known for its past as a sundown town:
Huntington University: A small PWI located directly in Huntington.
The legacy of sundown towns affects many areas across the United States, especially in the Midwest and Northern states. For more detailed information and an extensive list of sundown towns, you can refer to resources such as the Sundown Towns Database by James W. Loewen (History and Social Justice) (Green Book Global) (History and Social Justice). This database provides historical context and documentation of sundown towns by state.
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Post by aggie2039 on Jun 26, 2024 6:11:23 GMT -5
"I do not understand what is so different about HBCU culture as compared to a PWI..." AGGIE2039! Sundown towns are municipalities that, through formal or informal measures, exclude African Americans and other minorities after dark. Examples of Sundown Towns and Nearby PWIs: Forsyth County, Georgia: This county was known for its history as a sundown town. Notably, the town of Cumming in Forsyth County was infamous for violent racial expulsions in 1912. Nearby PWIs include: University of North Georgia (UNG): With campuses in Dahlonega, Gainesville, and Cumming, UNG is a prominent institution in this region. Martinsville, Indiana: Known for its sundown town history, Martinsville is in proximity to: Indiana University Bloomington: A significant PWI located about 30 miles from Martinsville. Elwood, Indiana: Another town with a documented sundown history, located near: Ball State University: Situated in Muncie, Indiana, this university is not far from Elwood. Huntington, Indiana: Also known for its past as a sundown town: Huntington University: A small PWI located directly in Huntington. The legacy of sundown towns affects many areas across the United States, especially in the Midwest and Northern states. For more detailed information and an extensive list of sundown towns, you can refer to resources such as the Sundown Towns Database by James W. Loewen (History and Social Justice) (Green Book Global) (History and Social Justice). This database provides historical context and documentation of sundown towns by state. Man your mind is trapped in the 1950s, lol My question still has not been answered, this article has nothing to do with PWI vs hbcu culture in 2024. |
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Post by A&T AGGIE 96 on Jun 26, 2024 6:56:29 GMT -5
Man I’ll be glad when football season starts, because right now we in the middle of silly season.
Look PWI’s and HBCUs share many similarities…and distinct cultural differences. I know first hand because I attended UNC Charlotte before transferring to NCAT. It’s kind of like the differences between a white church and a black church.
Often times it’s not what we do, but how we do it. To be honest, the black subculture at PWIs is very similar to what you will find at HBCUs…the main difference is that at an HBCU black culture is the primary culture.
When I was at UNCC if the SGA president, homecoming queen, or school chancellor was black it was something to be noted…at NCAT it’s expected.
Racism is real, and impacts this country everyday. PWIs like the rest of our society are influenced by our social ills…so there were sundown towns around PWIs. That said, there were plenty of sundown towns that didn’t have colleges at all…why, because it wasn’t about PWI culture…it was just about racism.
If you feel as an HBCU grad you can’t be “black” or somehow you less black because of the conference your school is in…then there are some other issues you need to deal with.
I can tell you from experience that I didn’t feel less black at UNCC…or more black at NCAT. I will say that I enjoyed the college experience more at NCAT…just like I enjoy the experience more at a black church compared to a white one.
I like HBCU sports…some conferences and schools more than others, but I like them all. I’ve never thought of an HBCU being less black because of its conference affiliation…nor have I seen HBCU culture change because of conference affiliation.
Who you play sports with doesn’t change who you are.
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Post by aggiestats on Jun 26, 2024 12:40:50 GMT -5
UNCC and schools like UNCG are unique. They have large black populations to be PWIs. Most PWIs are not in that situation. I'm sure black life at App State and Western Carolina is considerably different from A&T.
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Post by aggie2039 on Jun 26, 2024 12:42:55 GMT -5
UNCC and schools like UNCG are unique. They have large black populations to be PWIs. Most PWIs are not in that situation. I'm sure black life at App State and Western Carolina is considerably different from A&T. Black graduates I know from Western Carolina enjoyed their experience. |
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Post by oldschool on Jun 26, 2024 13:22:49 GMT -5
"I do not understand what is so different about HBCU culture as compared to a PWI..." AGGIE2039! Sundown towns are municipalities that, through formal or informal measures, exclude African Americans and other minorities after dark. Examples of Sundown Towns and Nearby PWIs: Forsyth County, Georgia: This county was known for its history as a sundown town. Notably, the town of Cumming in Forsyth County was infamous for violent racial expulsions in 1912. Nearby PWIs include: University of North Georgia (UNG): With campuses in Dahlonega, Gainesville, and Cumming, UNG is a prominent institution in this region. Martinsville, Indiana: Known for its sundown town history, Martinsville is in proximity to: Indiana University Bloomington: A significant PWI located about 30 miles from Martinsville. Elwood, Indiana: Another town with a documented sundown history, located near: Ball State University: Situated in Muncie, Indiana, this university is not far from Elwood. Huntington, Indiana: Also known for its past as a sundown town: Huntington University: A small PWI located directly in Huntington. The legacy of sundown towns affects many areas across the United States, especially in the Midwest and Northern states. For more detailed information and an extensive list of sundown towns, you can refer to resources such as the Sundown Towns Database by James W. Loewen (History and Social Justice) (Green Book Global) (History and Social Justice). This database provides historical context and documentation of sundown towns by state. If you are trying to refute what Aggie2039 said it would have been better to not go back to the era of 1912 .I'm sure all of us are familiar with the history of racism in our country ,especially such atrocities as the Tulsa riots ,the Wilmington riots ,and the riots in Rosewood Florida ,but my brother that was in the 1800's and early 1900's .I grew up in a small town in South Carolina where the sheriff and the grand wizard of the KKK were one and the same,but that was then and this is now . Since then ,the sheriff ,as well as the superintendent of education ,and the mayor have been blacks.I'm not naive to think that racism has been totally eradicated but I also know for a fact that those situations that you spoke of do not exist anymore . Whatever athletic conference that we choose to be in does not change our culture or history |
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Post by bseballaggie on Jun 27, 2024 7:27:21 GMT -5
"I do not understand what is so different about HBCU culture as compared to a PWI..." AGGIE2039! Sundown towns are municipalities that, through formal or informal measures, exclude African Americans and other minorities after dark. Examples of Sundown Towns and Nearby PWIs: Forsyth County, Georgia: This county was known for its history as a sundown town. Notably, the town of Cumming in Forsyth County was infamous for violent racial expulsions in 1912. Nearby PWIs include: University of North Georgia (UNG): With campuses in Dahlonega, Gainesville, and Cumming, UNG is a prominent institution in this region. Martinsville, Indiana: Known for its sundown town history, Martinsville is in proximity to: Indiana University Bloomington: A significant PWI located about 30 miles from Martinsville. Elwood, Indiana: Another town with a documented sundown history, located near: Ball State University: Situated in Muncie, Indiana, this university is not far from Elwood. Huntington, Indiana: Also known for its past as a sundown town: Huntington University: A small PWI located directly in Huntington. The legacy of sundown towns affects many areas across the United States, especially in the Midwest and Northern states. For more detailed information and an extensive list of sundown towns, you can refer to resources such as the Sundown Towns Database by James W. Loewen (History and Social Justice) (Green Book Global) (History and Social Justice). This database provides historical context and documentation of sundown towns by state. If you are trying to refute what Aggie2039 said it would have been better to not go back to the era of 1912 .I'm sure all of us are familiar with the history of racism in our country ,especially such atrocities as the Tulsa riots ,the Wilmington riots ,and the riots in Rosewood Florida ,but my brother that was in the 1800's and early 1900's .I grew up in a small town in South Carolina where the sheriff and the grand wizard of the KKK were one and the same,but that was then and this is now . Since then ,the sheriff ,as well as the superintendent of education ,and the mayor have been blacks.I'm not naive to think that racism has been totally eradicated but I also know for a fact that those situations that you spoke of do not exist anymore . Whatever athletic conference that we choose to be in does not change our culture or history "1912" I trained Werner Enterprise OTR 48 State Drivers, and resigned in April 2020. It is mandated that routers, route the trucks through Sundown Towns, It is mandated that all dispatchers make aware of and advise minority drivers when they are picking up in or around Sundown Towns. You privileged people don't know the protections you have. I have a former classmate who, as of 2020, was a member of a FBI task force, who addressed such issues of white superiority, I have a friend, Aggie, graduated from NCCU Law who is a DOJ attorney supervising offices in Seattle, DC, and Atlanta you have no clue of the walls of protection that you have, there is a slight difference in White people and White minds (superiority and its pursuits) in a systemic system structured to their advantage. White people marched with king and us today, It was a whiteman that kneeled with Colin Kaepernick, and during the sit ins woolworths, it was a handful of white girls from UNCG who were in the first line of defense and support. Some of you like Aggie2039. stick your chest out because you have achieved in America as if you are superior, remove the wheels of protection from white minds; then we see who is truly superior, remove the protections from plots to segregate all people for the advantages of a few, and with your self deluded statements, you present yourselves as superior thinking and all knowing. IMO "white people" are trying to achieve what we are, some have cheat codes. I attended a year at Drexel University, and had my first hand day to day white experience, I partied at UNCG and UNC in my days at A&T, so for a black man to say he doesn't see the difference in culture, tells me you are a fraud and delusional. |
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Post by bseballaggie on Jun 27, 2024 8:01:43 GMT -5
FYI, The next time you look down your nose at a OTR trucker, know this many of them make six figures, have college degrees, Trucking companies are the eyes and ears of State Troopers and the feds.
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Post by aggie2039 on Jun 27, 2024 8:01:45 GMT -5
If you are trying to refute what Aggie2039 said it would have been better to not go back to the era of 1912 .I'm sure all of us are familiar with the history of racism in our country ,especially such atrocities as the Tulsa riots ,the Wilmington riots ,and the riots in Rosewood Florida ,but my brother that was in the 1800's and early 1900's .I grew up in a small town in South Carolina where the sheriff and the grand wizard of the KKK were one and the same,but that was then and this is now . Since then ,the sheriff ,as well as the superintendent of education ,and the mayor have been blacks.I'm not naive to think that racism has been totally eradicated but I also know for a fact that those situations that you spoke of do not exist anymore . Whatever athletic conference that we choose to be in does not change our culture or history "1912" I trained Werner Enterprise OTR 48 State Drivers, and resigned in April 2020. It is mandated that routers, route the trucks through Sundown Towns, It is mandated that all dispatchers make aware of and advise minority drivers when they are picking up in or around Sundown Towns. You privileged people don't know the protections you have. I have a former classmate who, as of 2020, was a member of a FBI task force, who addressed such issues of white superiority, I have a friend, Aggie, graduated from NCCU Law who is a DOJ attorney supervising offices in Seattle, DC, and Atlanta you have no clue of the walls of protection that you have, there is a slight difference in White people and White minds (superiority and its pursuits) in a systemic system structured to their advantage. White people marched with king and us today, It was a whiteman that kneeled with Colin Kaepernick, and during the sit ins woolworths, it was a handful of white girls from UNCG who were in the first line of defense and support. Some of you like Aggie2039. stick your chest out because you have achieved in America as if you are superior, remove the wheels of protection from white minds; then we see who is truly superior, remove the protections from plots to segregate all people for the advantages of a few, and with your self deluded statements, you present yourselves as superior thinking and all knowing. IMO "white people" are trying to achieve what we are, some have cheat codes. I attended a year at Drexel University, and had my first hand day to day white experience, I partied at UNCG and UNC in my days at A&T, so for a black man to say he doesn't see the difference in culture, tells me you are a fraud and delusional. What year did you party at UNC and UNCG? |
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Post by A&T AGGIE 96 on Jun 27, 2024 10:44:33 GMT -5
UNCC and schools like UNCG are unique. They have large black populations to be PWIs. Most PWIs are not in that situation. I'm sure black life at App State and Western Carolina is considerably different from A&T. Fair point...they are different when it comes to their Black population. PWI's with small Black populations may see less of a "cultural" impact. During my time as a student at NCAT I took classes at UNCW during the summer. It was my hometown school and I could easily transfer my credits because NCAT and UNCW are both in the UNC System. Without a doubt it was a different vibe...and it wasn't because of summer school. UNCW’s demographic data reflects a struggle to diversify the student population“ I look at what are our peer institutions doing,” said Lauren Scott, Interim Director of Admissions. “ This past year, NC A&T increased enrollment by 3-4% in first-year students. So if a historically black college and university in our own home state is increasing their enrollment, is that affecting us? “While I can’t draw every conclusion and say, this is exactly why those numbers went down, for me, it’s a combination of things. It’s what are our peer institutions doing across the state and historically black colleges and universities?” -Lauren Scott, Interim Director of Admissions I remember when I first came to school orientation,” wrote Scarboro. “ I counted how many Black people I saw in the gym. It was probably right at a handful of African Americans. I was shocked because I thought more African Americans would attend UNCW. Another shocker is when I arrived in the theatre department, it was only a handful of us there as well. I asked myself “ where are all the black people?” -Breonte’ Scarboro, a UNCW senior |
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Post by oldschool on Jun 27, 2024 13:04:22 GMT -5
If you are trying to refute what Aggie2039 said it would have been better to not go back to the era of 1912 .I'm sure all of us are familiar with the history of racism in our country ,especially such atrocities as the Tulsa riots ,the Wilmington riots ,and the riots in Rosewood Florida ,but my brother that was in the 1800's and early 1900's .I grew up in a small town in South Carolina where the sheriff and the grand wizard of the KKK were one and the same,but that was then and this is now . Since then ,the sheriff ,as well as the superintendent of education ,and the mayor have been blacks.I'm not naive to think that racism has been totally eradicated but I also know for a fact that those situations that you spoke of do not exist anymore . Whatever athletic conference that we choose to be in does not change our culture or history "1912" I trained Werner Enterprise OTR 48 State Drivers, and resigned in April 2020. It is mandated that routers, route the trucks through Sundown Towns, It is mandated that all dispatchers make aware of and advise minority drivers when they are picking up in or around Sundown Towns. You privileged people don't know the protections you have. I have a former classmate who, as of 2020, was a member of a FBI task force, who addressed such issues of white superiority, I have a friend, Aggie, graduated from NCCU Law who is a DOJ attorney supervising offices in Seattle, DC, and Atlanta you have no clue of the walls of protection that you have, there is a slight difference in White people and White minds (superiority and its pursuits) in a systemic system structured to their advantage. White people marched with king and us today, It was a whiteman that kneeled with Colin Kaepernick, and during the sit ins woolworths, it was a handful of white girls from UNCG who were in the first line of defense and support. Some of you like Aggie2039. stick your chest out because you have achieved in America as if you are superior, remove the wheels of protection from white minds; then we see who is truly superior, remove the protections from plots to segregate all people for the advantages of a few, and with your self deluded statements, you present yourselves as superior thinking and all knowing. IMO "white people" are trying to achieve what we are, some have cheat codes. I attended a year at Drexel University, and had my first hand day to day white experience, I partied at UNCG and UNC in my days at A&T, so for a black man to say he doesn't see the difference in culture, tells me you are a fraud and delusional. Which towns in the states of North Carolina and South Carolina are considered "sundown towns" . |
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Post by Freeze on Jun 27, 2024 17:10:45 GMT -5
"1912" I trained Werner Enterprise OTR 48 State Drivers, and resigned in April 2020. It is mandated that routers, route the trucks through Sundown Towns, It is mandated that all dispatchers make aware of and advise minority drivers when they are picking up in or around Sundown Towns. You privileged people don't know the protections you have. I have a former classmate who, as of 2020, was a member of a FBI task force, who addressed such issues of white superiority, I have a friend, Aggie, graduated from NCCU Law who is a DOJ attorney supervising offices in Seattle, DC, and Atlanta you have no clue of the walls of protection that you have, there is a slight difference in White people and White minds (superiority and its pursuits) in a systemic system structured to their advantage. White people marched with king and us today, It was a whiteman that kneeled with Colin Kaepernick, and during the sit ins woolworths, it was a handful of white girls from UNCG who were in the first line of defense and support. Some of you like Aggie2039. stick your chest out because you have achieved in America as if you are superior, remove the wheels of protection from white minds; then we see who is truly superior, remove the protections from plots to segregate all people for the advantages of a few, and with your self deluded statements, you present yourselves as superior thinking and all knowing. IMO "white people" are trying to achieve what we are, some have cheat codes. I attended a year at Drexel University, and had my first hand day to day white experience, I partied at UNCG and UNC in my days at A&T, so for a black man to say he doesn't see the difference in culture, tells me you are a fraud and delusional. Which towns in the states of North Carolina and South Carolina are considered "sundown towns" . |
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Post by oldschool on Jun 28, 2024 15:15:31 GMT -5
This list is not at all helpful ,doesn't provide any data and list most of these places as being possible sundown towns ,being born and raised and still having relatives and friends in a lot of these places listed in South Carolina at least ,I don't put any relevance to this list at all . |
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Post by bseballaggie on Jul 1, 2024 7:45:03 GMT -5
If there is no difference in HBCU's and PWI's culture why do we need HBCU's? Our culture is what makes us important, assimilation IMO is the goal of White minds, fear factors, are real, to infuse trauma and victimization, to constantly destroy the idea and the power of collectivism, In a room of decision makers where white minds are the majority for business money, and power if we are cutting costs, and we have two things that are similar, the argument is strong for the majority and following the golden rule. AGGIE2039 is a billboard for PWI's and white minded authority, presenting himself as a successful blackman.
See the history of Bluefield State University listed and defined as a HBCU, where the student body is 90% white, yet the Alumni are listed as 100% black. In the early years of its establishment, black students had to protest on campus for the inclusion of their culture and the benefits of a HBCU. Elon Musk suggest that black people stop talking about the history of slavery, I dare anyone to suggest this to the Jews.
The Jews don't tell the story of the black people who suffered the same atrocities in Germany, and were forbidden to live in cross-cultural black cultured relationships. Blackmen were imprisoned and their children sent off to camps similar to prisons. This government treats black america as they treat Africa, the discussions at the presidential debate are an example, they openly promote the disadvantages without the successes or creations of ingenuity and scholarly contributions. Their are African cities that are more advanced than American cities and America is recruiting African scientists and forcing them to identify as white. White minds will white wash everything through power and mental assimilation. They are the BORG!(Star Trek)
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jul 1, 2024 8:24:12 GMT -5
Baseballaggie, please refrain from the name calling. I understand you are frustrated, but you dont need to address other posters in that manner in order to make your argument.
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