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Post by Maxell on Jun 17, 2024 10:59:15 GMT -5
Five and a possible.
The offense will be two TDs better and the defense will be at least 3 points better.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 17, 2024 11:04:13 GMT -5
yeah, but its not a great day in aggieland after our football team just got their brains beat out. its not a "tragic" day, but it ain't a great day either. maybe i'm different, but i'd like for my head coach to share the same frustrations "after a loss" that i have. saying its a great day says to me that "everything is fine" and that the loss means "nothing". well, losing games (especially against a rival) depresses a lot of people, including "me". heck, if i break my leg and get rushed to the hospital "in pain", the last thing i wanna hear the doctor say is "its a great day"... I would suggest to you that he's looking at it at a whole different level than you are. He said it as much in his press conferences. It wasn't just about the last and previous games but about the building that was going on with the team and him having the opportunity to coach in AggieLand. He knew we were gonna have struggles in a much more competitive CAA and NCCU was NO SLOUCH. He knew we were young, inexperienced and light. That is changing as he's had opportunity...full recruiting year. It is, indeed, a GREAT DAY in Aggieland! Oh, and this is not to mentioon all the other great things going on in AggieLand! understood. but there's a right time to say its a great day in aggieland, and there's a "wrong time" to say its a great day in aggieland. its a "wrong time" to say its a great day in aggieland after a loss. after a loss, our fans don't feel like "that day" is a great day in aggieland. i don't know of "any" other coach who does that. to me, its almost an "insult" to say that to aggie alums after losing a football game. its like pyssing on somebody's leg and saying the rain did it...
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Post by scotthall2119c on Jun 17, 2024 11:04:38 GMT -5
Relax and breathe Aggies, we are going to win more than 1 or 2 games next year. Of course, I don't know the future and I know we looked absolutely terrible at times last year. Like many of you, I watched all the games last year and attended 6 of them. I also re-watched games on FloSports. As bad as we looked, I felt like we were still in 6 or 7 of the 11 games we played at halftime at least. I don't know about you guys, but although teams certainly made some plays against us, I wasn't greatly impressed by most of the teams we faced. Of course, we will not know until the season actually gets going, but I think we improved the roster, the young players gained experience and some confidence, and coaches gained experience. I think a lot of how we felt after the season and how some feel right now has a lot to do with the expectations going into last season. IMO, AGGIE PRIDE had folks waay too optimistic at the start of last season, but I expected it to be extremely rough for us and didn't expect us to win more than 1 or 2 games. We had a firs-time HC, officially hired nearly 3 months before spring ball, thus without a full recruiting season and staffing concerns. He also hired a first-time OC. From a reliable source, I was told the OC was really going to be a position coach, but kind of fell into the position when the intended OC took another job at the last minute. Thus, in a haste to complete the staff to make up for lost time, they made that move. Considering the coaching situation, lack of recruiting time and the loss of players/production, I figured we were in for a really rough ride. I'm just looking for improvement in terms of being more competitive in games, win total and the "eyeball test" or what the team play looks like on the field. I'm sure I missed some, but here's a glimpse of what we lost going into last season.
Offense 1. Passing Offense - Starting QB (5-year player) - accounted for at least 75% of snaps, 83% passing offense, 88% passing TDs 2. Rushing Offense - Starting RB (best player) - accounted for 70% rushing offense and 68% of rushing TDs (13/19) 3. Receiving Offense - 4 of 5 top pass-catching production including Tuten - accounted for 76% yards and 88% TDs (15/17)
Defense Lost our best 2 defensive players and 4 of top 5 productive and impact players - Total players lost accounted for 60% of tackles and 67% TFLs
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Post by A&T-roy on Jun 17, 2024 11:16:18 GMT -5
Relax and breathe Aggies, we are going to win more than 1 or 2 games next year. Of course, I don't know the future and I know we looked absolutely terrible at times last year. Like many of you, I watched all the games last year and attended 6 of them. I also re-watched games on FloSports. As bad as we looked, I felt like we were still in 6 or 7 of the 11 games we played. I don't know about you guys, but although teams certainly made some plays against us, I wasn't greatly impressed by most of the teams we faced. Of course, we will not know until the season actually gets going, but I think we improved the roster, the young players gained experience and some confidence, and coaches gained experience. I think a lot of how we felt after the season and how some feel right now has a lot to do with the expectations going into last season. IMO, AGGIE PRIDE had folks waay too optimistic at the start of last season, but I expected it to be extremely rough for us and didn't expect us to win more than 1 or 2 games. We had a firs-time HC, officially hired nearly 3 months before spring ball, thus without a full recruiting season and staffing concerns. He also hired a first-time OC. From a reliable source, I was told the OC was really going to be a position coach, but kind of fell into the position when the intended OC took another job at the last minute. Thus, in a haste to complete the staff to make up for lost time, they made that move. Considering the coaching situation, lack of recruiting time and the loss of players/production, I figured we were in for a really rough ride. I'm just looking for improvement in terms of being competitive in games, win total and the "eyeball test" or what the team play looks like on the field. I'm sure I missed some, but here's a glimpse of what we lost going into last season. Offense 1. Passing Offense - Starting QB (5-year player) - accounted for at least 75% of snaps, 83% passing offense, 88% passing TDs 2. Rushing Offense - Starting RB (best player) - accounted for 70% rushing offense and 68% of rushing TDs (13/19) 3. Receiving Offense - 4 of 5 top pass-catching production including Tuten - accounted for 76% yards and 88% TDs (15/17) Defense Lost our best 2 defensive players and 4 of top 5 productive and impact players - Total players lost accounted for 60% of tackles and 67% TFLs I think I'm 100 with this except I "expected" us to win more than 1 or 2. Never fathomed our QB situation/passing to be so bad and I believe it made a YUGE difference in our results.
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Post by scotthall2119c on Jun 17, 2024 11:36:04 GMT -5
Yeah A&T-roy, I must say, from what I had seen from the backup QBs and the lack of experience, I expected QB play to be sub-par, but certainly NEVER envisioned it being as bad as it was.
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Post by planoaggie on Jun 17, 2024 11:41:52 GMT -5
Just so we don't get too far out of whack concerning Coach B's contact, his annual base salary is 365K. Interesting that the contract says 5 years but gives what I believe to be 6 years (2023, 2024, 2025, 2026, 2027 & 2028). So here's how I see it playing out in terms of what's left each year: 2023 - 2.19M 2024 - 1.825M 2025 - 1.46M 2026 - 1.095M 2027 - 730k 2028 - 365 Each year it get's better/easier to terminate. Granted, I'm on the side of he's gonna fulfil the whole contract! Let's go! Man, this thread got really busy while I was creating a thread to address discussions about Coach Brown's contract since it had nothing to do with the heart of your thread. If you believe your numbers are correct, maybe you can repost in my thread on Coach Brown's contract for easier lookup if others are interested in that topic later.
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Post by bigboosterhbcu on Jun 17, 2024 11:58:08 GMT -5
I think only A&T fans were suprised the season went as bad as it did. The fact ppl want Brown gone already is delusional. He really wasnt setup for year 1 success. Hired late, no recruiting, lost all the top players, much more competitive conference, smaller budget. That terrible OC is on him but give the man atleast a few recruiting cycles before pulling out the pitchforks.
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Post by aggie2039 on Jun 17, 2024 12:05:51 GMT -5
I think only A&T fans were suprised the season went as bad as it did. The fact ppl want Brown gone already is delusional. He really wasnt setup for year 1 success. Hired late, no recruiting, lost all the top players, much more competitive conference, smaller budget. That terrible OC is on him but give the man atleast a few recruiting cycles before pulling out the pitchforks. which school do you represent?
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Post by bluehaze on Jun 17, 2024 12:06:53 GMT -5
A&T can afford to pay a coach $1.6 million just to not coach here? His salary is basically the guaranteed money we get from scheduling a FBS school each year. I’m not saying it would be fiscally sound, but the cost could be absorbed. What we can’t afford is the 0-27 streak or the O and T jokes.
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Post by aggie2039 on Jun 17, 2024 12:09:28 GMT -5
A&T can afford to pay a coach $1.6 million just to not coach here? His salary is basically the guaranteed money we get from scheduling a FBS school each year. I’m not saying it would be fiscally sound, but the cost could be absorbed. What we can’t afford is the 0-27 streak or the O and T jokes. We can not afford to pay $1.8M lump sum, we do not get $1.8M from a FBS game. We can afford to give him time...he needs several recruiting classes.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jun 17, 2024 12:12:32 GMT -5
A&T can afford to pay a coach $1.6 million just to not coach here? His salary is basically the guaranteed money we get from scheduling a FBS school each year. I’m not saying it would be fiscally sound, but the cost could be absorbed. What we can’t afford is the 0-27 streak or the O and T jokes. Why can't we? We went 1-10 last season and ticket sales are still strong. GHOE tailgate spots just sold out in record time. Men's basketball was god awful last year and no one seems to be freaking out. Baseball & softball finished near the bottom of the CAA. I dont think our athletic department's business model is predicated on actually winning games.
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Post by bluehaze on Jun 17, 2024 12:15:23 GMT -5
His salary is basically the guaranteed money we get from scheduling a FBS school each year. I’m not saying it would be fiscally sound, but the cost could be absorbed. What we can’t afford is the 0-27 streak or the O and T jokes. We can not afford to pay $1.8M lump sum, we do not get $1.8M from a FBS game. We can afford to give him time...he needs several recruiting classes. Pretty sure, It’s not a lump sum buyout. I haven’t read the contract in a while, but I believe he would just continue to get his salary. The hypothetical we are discussing is that he lost at home to a bad CIAA team, a rebuilding SCSU and Hampton with an interim coach. That’s unacceptable.
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Post by saabman on Jun 17, 2024 12:58:31 GMT -5
We can not afford to pay $1.8M lump sum, we do not get $1.8M from a FBS game. We can afford to give him time...he needs several recruiting classes. Pretty sure, It’s not a lump sum buyout. I haven’t read the contract in a while, but I believe he would just continue to get his salary. The hypothetical we are discussing is that he lost at home to a bad CIAA team, a rebuilding SCSU and Hampton with an interim coach. That’s unacceptable. This should not even be a conversation. We all know what Washington left brown with. From academic problems with some of the athletes to inconsistent talent to no Talent at all at important positions. This is Brown's first recruiting class. If this conversation is to be had it should be two years from now. I told you guys from the beginning of last season that we did not have the overall team talent, we had individual Talent. This is unnecessary conversation at this time.
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Post by AggieMac on Jun 17, 2024 13:04:43 GMT -5
I've got 4 & 3 possibles. Four: 1. WSSU 2. NCCU 3. SCSU 4. Hampton Possibles: 1. Campbell 2. Towson 3. Elon Expect the rest to be like a Jack sneaking through or some lower card (8, etc.) sneaking in at the end of the hand...but who knows. All this said, let's do our best to support our kids as much as possible (money, attendance at both home & away games, etc.) Let's go! Aggiely, A&T-roy #AggiePride #AggiesDo #AlwaysDoing #NeverDone I agree with this assessment. I think we can cover the HBCU slate. I was not all that impressed with nccu last year when we played them, we just were so damn anemic on offense, and couldn't do nothing with that running back at QB they had due to our undersized front 7. I expect our offense to be much improved over last year. Defense I'm not concerned at all.
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Post by bluehaze on Jun 17, 2024 13:07:42 GMT -5
Pretty sure, It’s not a lump sum buyout. I haven’t read the contract in a while, but I believe he would just continue to get his salary. The hypothetical we are discussing is that he lost at home to a bad CIAA team, a rebuilding SCSU and Hampton with an interim coach. That’s unacceptable. This should not even be a conversation. We all know what Washington left brown with. From academic problems with some of the athletes to inconsistent talent to no Talent at all at important positions. This is Brown's first recruiting class. If this conversation is to be had it should be two years from now. I told you guys from the beginning of last season that we did not have the overall team talent, we had individual Talent. This is unnecessary conversation at this time. I agree pretty much with everything you said. However losing to a bad Winston team for the season opener erases all excuses and good will.
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