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Post by planoaggie on Apr 3, 2024 13:56:37 GMT -5
we already have decent 3 point shooters in glasper, shell, and mckie. all 3 of them knocked down better than 30% of their 3 point shots and so did the "greek freak". remember last season we ran out of "quality guards" when glasper and shell went down? if we had had a forrester and a qua brown last season, we would not have missed a beat. in other words, you can never have enuf "quality guards". bigs are much harder to come by than guards. when our entire team was healthy (including murphy), our team was very "competitive". assuming murphy returns healthy next season along with a 6'9" 260lbs transfer post player from arizona state in will felton, that would give us formidable presence in the paint without having to play murphy to death. plus, the "greek freak" is also 6'9" tall. plug him in at the "4" and we're looking at a very decent front court. could we use some better players? of course we could but every team can say that. maybe its just me, but by no means am i in "panic mode". no one really believed me early in the season when i stated that we had a decent team despite being so "young". but i was proven to be correct. so i'm here again saying that we "already" have enuf talent on our team (assuming everyone returns and remains healthy) to finish in the upper half of the conference. it wouldn't shock me if we finished as high as 4th out of 13 teams... We need good 3-pt shooters not decent 3-pt shooters barely cracking 30%. Didn't the men's team barely beat the women's team in a preseason 3-pt shooting exhibition? We know the women's basketball team struggled with the 3-pt shots at the end of the season for sure. I essentially said that we are loaded at the backcourt positions. You are trying to differentiate with what I said by stating "quality guards", therefore A&T could use more guards. Well you are saying that A&T needs to get rid of some guards because they are not quality guards to make room for new players. I said that was the only way coach could avoid over recruiting in the guard position. Get rid of some existing guards. I hold off on making predictions or critiquing the roster until after the non-conference games. That way, I can determine whether it is more of a coach or player problem or improvement. I did not waste any energy last season in critiquing the team or coach because they both were struggling in my opinion. This year I may chime in.
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Post by planoaggie on Apr 3, 2024 13:57:53 GMT -5
Did Ryan Forrester get hurt or injured? I don't see any stats after December 2023 and there was a huge drop-off in performance. www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/gamelog/_/id/5105332/ryan-forrestUnless we get rid of players, I feel we are building up depth in the wrong area. We need much better 3-pt shooters and bigs that can command the middle defensively and finish consistently around the basket. Also, please be able to shoot free-throws. Something happened and no mention of him being off the team after the 1st semester.... My thoughts as well.
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Post by Aggie One on Apr 3, 2024 16:09:25 GMT -5
NWS had six of their better players leave and go into the portal within the last 2 weeks. That many guys leaving all at one time after the season just ended kind of says something other than the normal portal related stuff. Their team wasn't a firebrand this year under a first-year head coach. Sounds like guys may have wanted out.
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Post by AggieGroove on Apr 3, 2024 17:59:53 GMT -5
NWS had six of their better players leave and go into the portal within the last 2 weeks. That many guys leaving all at one time after the season just ended kind of says something other than the normal portal related stuff. Their team wasn't a firebrand this year under a first-year head coach. Sounds like guys may have wanted out. Thanks and I think he is an "above-average" pick up for us. With great pleasure, I feel Ross is building something special here....
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Post by planoaggie on Apr 4, 2024 4:25:03 GMT -5
NWS had six of their better players leave and go into the portal within the last 2 weeks. That many guys leaving all at one time after the season just ended kind of says something other than the normal portal related stuff. Their team wasn't a firebrand this year under a first-year head coach. Sounds like guys may have wanted out. I still feel there is more about Forrester we don't know. He did not finish the fall semester, did not play in any conference games, and his name is no longer on the team roster. They don't take your name off the roster just because you enter the transfer portal. His jersey is #5. nsudemons.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster
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Post by planoaggie on Apr 4, 2024 4:57:41 GMT -5
NWS had six of their better players leave and go into the portal within the last 2 weeks. That many guys leaving all at one time after the season just ended kind of says something other than the normal portal related stuff. Their team wasn't a firebrand this year under a first-year head coach. Sounds like guys may have wanted out. Thanks and I think he is an "above-average" pick up for us. With great pleasure, I feel Ross is building something special here.... What are you basing your opinion on that he is above average recruit for A&T? He was a 3⭐ and as a shooting guard his 3-pt shooting is not good. He has plusses and minuses, but is he an actual upgrade. No matter what we think, Coach Ross likes him so we will see next season.
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Post by AggieGroove on Apr 4, 2024 7:16:23 GMT -5
Thanks and I think he is an "above-average" pick up for us. With great pleasure, I feel Ross is building something special here.... What are you basing your opinion on that he is above average recruit for A&T? He was a 3⭐ and as a shooting guard his 3-pt shooting is not good. He has plusses and minuses, but is he an actual upgrade. No matter what we think, Coach Ross likes him so we will see next season. Ross seemingly ability to coach players up…
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Post by aggie2039 on Apr 4, 2024 7:35:53 GMT -5
He is definitely an upgrade over the 2 string PG and SG that we have. When Glasper went down the team struggled mightily, when Shell went down we struggled even more.
Coach is looking at adding a quality scoring option coming of the bench. I like Dukes but he is not a scoring threat off the bench.
This guy can score and has done it at the D1 level as a true freshman.
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Post by planoaggie on Apr 4, 2024 9:42:24 GMT -5
He is definitely an upgrade over the 2 string PG and SG that we have. When Glasper went down the team struggled mightily, when Shell went down we struggled even more. Coach is looking at adding a quality scoring option coming of the bench. I like Dukes but he is not a scoring threat off the bench. This guy can score and has done it at the D1 level as a true freshman. I have not watched any video on this player, only looking at stats which we all know does not tell the entire story about a player. He definitely is not a PG based on his low assist and high turnover numbers. He maybe a good defensive player due to a few games with a high number of steals. I am not sure if he will be a major scoring option as you put it on "A&T's team." My uncertainty is due to 1) small sample size, 2) inconsistent scoring, 3) shooting percentage, and 4) the volume of shots he took in his best scoring games (18-21). Where are these high number of shots going to come from if Glasper and Shell are taking a lot of shots? What if we start working the ball inside more with the big men that were injured last year? His role may change to where his numbers don't look no different than Duke or another non-starter. My point is "I" don't know if he is an upgrade, a starter, okay player, great defender, etc. Players join new teams and they eventually settle into a particular role depending on what the coach needs and who is already on the new team. For example, consider Woods for NCSU or Hailey Van Lith who was the leading scorer for Louisville last season but far from that at LSU this season. They are still good players in my opinion but their role and value they bring to their new team is different. You and others may endup being right about the upgrade (wiser or better scouting skills than I), but I can't make that call yet.
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Post by aggie2039 on Apr 4, 2024 13:39:38 GMT -5
He is definitely an upgrade over the 2 string PG and SG that we have. When Glasper went down the team struggled mightily, when Shell went down we struggled even more. Coach is looking at adding a quality scoring option coming of the bench. I like Dukes but he is not a scoring threat off the bench. This guy can score and has done it at the D1 level as a true freshman. I have not watched any video on this player, only looking at stats which we all know does not tell the entire story about a player. He definitely is not a PG based on his low assist and high turnover numbers. He maybe a good defensive player due to a few games with a high number of steals. I am not sure if he will be a major scoring option as you put it on "A&T's team." My uncertainty is due to 1) small sample size, 2) inconsistent scoring, 3) shooting percentage, and 4) the volume of shots he took in his best scoring games (18-21). Where are these high number of shots going to come from if Glasper and Shell are taking a lot of shots? What if we start working the ball inside more with the big men that were injured last year? His role may change to where his numbers don't look no different than Duke or another non-starter. My point is "I" don't know if he is an upgrade, a starter, okay player, great defender, etc. Players join new teams and they eventually settle into a particular role depending on what the coach needs and who is already on the new team. For example, consider Woods for NCSU or Hailey Van Lith who was the leading scorer for Louisville last season but far from that at LSU this season. They are still good players in my opinion but their role and value they bring to their new team is different. You and others may endup being right about the upgrade (wiser or better scouting skills than I), but I can't make that call yet. We all know you lean more on the negative side. He is a scorer, a slasher...when Glasper went down we had zero options to take it to the hole. This kid scored 23 versus Tulane, lets not forget he was a true freshman. He is an upgrade over the current 2nd string guards on our roster. Duke played 30 minutes vs Campbell and scored 2 points. Duke played 37 min vs Drexel and scord 14 points Duke is going into his senior year and this true freshman is more of a scoring threat. Let coach figure out how he will incorporate the kid into the game plan.
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Post by planoaggie on Apr 4, 2024 14:35:28 GMT -5
I have not watched any video on this player, only looking at stats which we all know does not tell the entire story about a player. He definitely is not a PG based on his low assist and high turnover numbers. He maybe a good defensive player due to a few games with a high number of steals. I am not sure if he will be a major scoring option as you put it on "A&T's team." My uncertainty is due to 1) small sample size, 2) inconsistent scoring, 3) shooting percentage, and 4) the volume of shots he took in his best scoring games (18-21). Where are these high number of shots going to come from if Glasper and Shell are taking a lot of shots? What if we start working the ball inside more with the big men that were injured last year? His role may change to where his numbers don't look no different than Duke or another non-starter. My point is "I" don't know if he is an upgrade, a starter, okay player, great defender, etc. Players join new teams and they eventually settle into a particular role depending on what the coach needs and who is already on the new team. For example, consider Woods for NCSU or Hailey Van Lith who was the leading scorer for Louisville last season but far from that at LSU this season. They are still good players in my opinion but their role and value they bring to their new team is different. You and others may endup being right about the upgrade (wiser or better scouting skills than I), but I can't make that call yet. We all know you lean more on the negative side. He is a scorer, a slasher...when Glasper went down we had zero options to take it to the hole. This kid scored 23 versus Tulane, lets not forget he was a true freshman. He is an upgrade over the current 2nd string guards on our roster. Duke played 30 minutes vs Campbell and scored 2 points. Duke played 37 min vs Drexel and scord 14 points Duke is going into his senior year and this true freshman is more of a scoring threat. Let coach figure out how he will incorporate the kid into the game plan. Great points. I don't think I lean towards the negative side. I try to be fair to observe all points of view in my posts. I just explained why "I" was not prepared to say upgrade as of yet, but at the same time stated you may be better at determining whether he is an upgrade due to your scouting skills. I did not have the fortune to observe as many games as you. My post were based on stats as stated. Oh, and I think I said similar thing about the coach making his own decisions and waiting until conference play to critique coaches and players.
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Post by saabman on Apr 4, 2024 15:27:30 GMT -5
We all know you lean more on the negative side. He is a scorer, a slasher...when Glasper went down we had zero options to take it to the hole. This kid scored 23 versus Tulane, lets not forget he was a true freshman. He is an upgrade over the current 2nd string guards on our roster. Duke played 30 minutes vs Campbell and scored 2 points. Duke played 37 min vs Drexel and scord 14 points Duke is going into his senior year and this true freshman is more of a scoring threat. Let coach figure out how he will incorporate the kid into the game plan. Great points. I don't think I lean towards the negative side. I try to be fair to observe all points of view in my posts. I just explained why "I" was not prepared to say upgrade as of yet, but at the same time stated you may be better at determining whether he is an upgrade due to your scouting skills. I did not have the fortunate to observe as many games as you. My post were based on stats as stated. Oh, and I think I said similar thing about the coach making his own decisions and waiting until conference play to critique coaches and players. The youngman is an upgrade on paper which is true , but that doesn't transition to a new program all the time. When you're talking about upgrades that will not be determined until the young man hits the floor in a Aggie uniform. A&T has had a lot of Real Deal players come through its doors in the last few years and a lot of them have been disappointment. So we will see where this young man lands under the leadership of coach Ross. I look at more than just scoring I also look at assist rate, defensive steals, turnover ratio and rebounding his overall game. Now if we are just talking about scoring he may be an upgrade but if that's all he can do and not play both ends of the floor. Is he on upgrade on the offensive end or a downgrade on the defensive end. This is what we will see once he's on campus. I will stay away from the upgrade conversation until I see the incoming players in action. As my cousin Gerard Mustafa "would say what good is a player that can score but is limited in all other actions on the court, he is just a player that can shoot but do nothing else, players like that do not win your games" .
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Post by Aggie One on Apr 12, 2024 18:52:41 GMT -5
Monte Ross is playing chess while the rest of us are all playing checkers. Excellent pickup.
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Post by Aggie One on Apr 22, 2024 10:52:33 GMT -5
It is becoming increasingly apparent that Coach Monte Ross is in the midst of retooling much of his 2024-25 roster from last year with a keen eye on producing far more offensive options especially out of his backcourt.
Bryson Ogletree is a 6-4 PG/SG/SF from South Plains JUCO in Texas and a native of Hampton, GA (Mundy HS). Started on the #1 JUCO team in the nation this past season. Originally signed with App State out of HS in 2022 before transferring to JUCO as a freshman.
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Ogletree comes to The High Country following a stellar high school career. He spent the last two seasons at Mundy's Mill High School in Jonesboro, Ga. after beginning his career at nearby Lovejoy High School. As a senior, the guard averaged a team-high in points, rebounds and assists. He also earned first-team All-Region 3-AAAAA honors. Kerns on Ogletree: "We are excited about the addition of Bryson Ogletree to the Mountaineer family. He comes from Mundy's Mill High School in Hampton, Georgia where he averaged 19 points and 8 rebounds per game. Bryson has tremendous upside and potential. He is an explosive athletic wing that is also capable of stretching the floor from 3. Bryson comes from an incredible family which includes Randy Ogletree, former standout basketball player at Columbus State University, and his mother Annette Ogletree. Bryson has been prepared well by Coach Dwight Callaway at Mundys Mill High School, and his AAU Coach Steve Bouye from Bouye Elite. Bryson will bring a blue-collar mentality to the gym every day, and he takes pride in being the hardest playing player on the floor.
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Post by saabman on Apr 22, 2024 15:21:50 GMT -5
It is becoming increasingly apparent that Coach Monte Ross is in the midst of retooling much of his 2024-25 roster from last year with a keen eye on producing far more offensive options especially out of his backcourt. Bryson Ogletree is a 6-4 PG/SG/SF from South Plains JUCO in Texas and a native of Hampton, GA (Mundy HS). Started on the #1 JUCO team in the nation this past season. Originally signed with App State out of HS in 2022 before transferring to JUCO as a freshman. From the App State website: Ogletree comes to The High Country following a stellar high school career. He spent the last two seasons at Mundy's Mill High School in Jonesboro, Ga. after beginning his career at nearby Lovejoy High School. As a senior, the guard averaged a team-high in points, rebounds and assists. He also earned first-team All-Region 3-AAAAA honors. Kerns on Ogletree: "We are excited about the addition of Bryson Ogletree to the Mountaineer family. He comes from Mundy's Mill High School in Hampton, Georgia where he averaged 19 points and 8 rebounds per game. Bryson has tremendous upside and potential. He is an explosive athletic wing that is also capable of stretching the floor from 3. Bryson comes from an incredible family which includes Randy Ogletree, former standout basketball player at Columbus State University, and his mother Annette Ogletree. Bryson has been prepared well by Coach Dwight Callaway at Mundys Mill High School, and his AAU Coach Steve Bouye from Bouye Elite. Bryson will bring a blue-collar mentality to the gym every day, and he takes pride in being the hardest playing player on the floor.Good pick up. The guy man takes pride in playing defense . I also hope that Ross is looking at Malique Ewin , who is a 6'10" forward-center on the same team . A true in the paint scorer rebounder and defender.
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