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Post by aggie2039 on Mar 26, 2024 17:09:28 GMT -5
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Mar 26, 2024 17:22:48 GMT -5
there are "13 teams" in the caa. i suspect that the tourney champs get a larger share than the rest of the conference but for argument's sake, let's say all 13 schools "equally" share the $2 million (which they probably don't). by my math, if all 13 schools "equally" share the $2 million, we're still only looking at roughly a $153k share "max" but probably less assuming the conference itself takes a bite outta that $2 million unit and the conference champs probably take a larger bite out of it than the rest of the conference. even for a lowmajor or midmajor, $153k ain't that much relatively speaking. we got way more than that when we played in the celebration bowl. now, the question is, what about playing in the "first 4"? does wins in the "first 4" earn a unit? if so, that's even more reason to play in the "first 4"... |
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Post by aggiestats on Mar 26, 2024 17:47:55 GMT -5
there are "13 teams" in the caa. i suspect that the tourney champs get a larger share than the rest of the conference but for argument's sake, let's say all 13 schools "equally" share the $2 million (which they probably don't). by my math, if all 13 schools "equally" share the $2 million, we're still only looking at roughly a $153k share "max" but probably less assuming the conference itself takes a bite outta that $2 million unit and the conference champs probably take a larger bite out of it than the rest of the conference. even for a lowmajor or midmajor, $153k ain't that much relatively speaking. we got way more than that when we played in the celebration bowl. now, the question is, what about playing in the "first 4"? does wins in the "first 4" earn a unit? if so, that's even more reason to play in the "first 4"... The First Four is a unit. Grambling earned the SWAC two units this year. |
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Post by Maxell on Mar 26, 2024 18:02:28 GMT -5
The SWAC will use it for football.
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Post by aggie2039 on Mar 26, 2024 18:08:00 GMT -5
The SWAC will use it for football. 🤣🤣 |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Mar 26, 2024 20:33:23 GMT -5
there are "13 teams" in the caa. i suspect that the tourney champs get a larger share than the rest of the conference but for argument's sake, let's say all 13 schools "equally" share the $2 million (which they probably don't). by my math, if all 13 schools "equally" share the $2 million, we're still only looking at roughly a $153k share "max" but probably less assuming the conference itself takes a bite outta that $2 million unit and the conference champs probably take a larger bite out of it than the rest of the conference. even for a lowmajor or midmajor, $153k ain't that much relatively speaking. we got way more than that when we played in the celebration bowl. now, the question is, what about playing in the "first 4"? does wins in the "first 4" earn a unit? if so, that's even more reason to play in the "first 4"... The First Four is a unit. Grambling earned the SWAC two units this year. cool, so if we ever make it back to the "big dance", i don't want no 15, 14, nor even a 13 or better seed. give me the 16 seed and a birth in the "first 4" play-in games. my only caveat about the "first 4" play-in game is that "WE CAN'T LOSE THE DOGGONE GAME!" that defeats the purpose of wanting to be in the "first 4" play-in games...  |
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Post by A&T-roy on Mar 26, 2024 22:10:32 GMT -5
I would rather go to the Big Dance than any of the other tournaments because it would mean we had won the conference tournament (ship & trophy) and get to play on a bigger stage with a good chance to win a game, if in one of the 16 vs. 16 games...or make a good showing against a #1. Or if we can get a better seed than 16. Not to mention, typically, more exposure.
Related to the WBIT, it looks like many of them are non-tournament winning regular season conference champions and I would prefer that over the WNIT.
Don't get me wrong, I love what we're doing in the WNIT and prefer it over nothing.
Let's go!
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Post by 919aggie on Mar 26, 2024 22:52:53 GMT -5
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Post by planoaggie on Mar 26, 2024 23:55:16 GMT -5
what's the chances of an hbcu winning an ncaa "d1" national championship in modern day ncaa basketball? matter fact, what's the chances of an hbcu advancing beyond the 2nd round of the "d1" ncaa national basketball championship tournament? in modern day ncaa basketball? our chances are virtually "zero" cuz no hbcu's on either the men's nor women's side have done so. for that reason, i've been a long time advocate of there being an equivalent of the fcs playoffs at the d1 level in basketball cuz most low to mid-major schools have almost no chance of making the ncaa d1 2nd or 3rd rounds, much less the sweet 16 or final 4. so for "me", the wnit more less represents an fcs playoffs version of d1 basketball whereby low to mid-major schools have a far better chance of "advancing" to the later the rounds. so give me the wnit or nit for men all day every day. and if either our wbb or mbb teams make the "big dance", give me a 16 seed and put me in the "play-in games" where i have a legit chance to "win" a doggone game like our men did against liberty several years ago. and look at our women's team? this is not the first time that we've advanced to the 3rd round of the wnit, we also did it when coach bibbs was our head coach and all of her wnit wins came "on the road". nobody wants to go to the "big dance" just to get blown out and sent home without a taste of victory. that's why i rather take a 16 seed and play in the "first 4" games if we make the "big dance". otherwise, give me the wnit/nit where i have a fighting chance to "win" some games and maybe even a championship... If I was the HC of A&T men or women basketball team and won the regular season championship and/or CAA Tournament Championship, I would always choose the NCAA automatic bid. No questions asked. My kids do not play down to competition by choice. I would bet that none of players would choose to skip the NCAA tournament. Now if the AD or Chancellor overrule me so be it. Let them worry about the money issue. I will focus on the best development and competition for my kids and building the strongest program possible. If A&T had received an at-large NCAA invite, my answer would be see the above. If the selection committee thought enough to pick us to go to the big dance over other schools then my goal as a coach is to prove them right. Roll the ball out and let's get it on. To date, I am not aware of any automatic bid or at-large bid teams (HBCU included) that have turned down an NCAA invitation (basketball only). That is like running away from competition to me because you are not guaranteed a win. Now if my team does not receive an invite to the NCAA, I will not be embarrassed to accept the next highest level of competition (men or women) like our women team did. If I am the HC, then competition drives me and not money. I will leave that up to administrators. I believe some of us confuse these roles when stating what you think is best for the university versus the coach/team. They are not necessarily the same. Until you give me 1 to 3 examples of basketball teams that turned down NCAA March Madness invitation, I don't see why we are discussing playing in these lower level tournaments just because they may yield higher monetary profits. To my knowledge no HBCU conferences ran away from higher competition. I love to learn, so if I am in error please take the opportunity to educate me on my mistakes. |
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Post by aggieforlife on Mar 27, 2024 1:28:00 GMT -5
This game vs Troy will be our hardest test this team has 5 Double figure scores one is from Charlotte. WE HAVE to PLAY IN THE 60s to win point blank.
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Post by westcoastaggie on Mar 27, 2024 9:15:17 GMT -5
This game vs Troy will be our hardest test this team has 5 Double figure scores one is from Charlotte. WE HAVE to PLAY IN THE 60s to win point blank. I don't know if these ladies have the shooting legs at this point of the season. The shots just look off and it's probably because they are tired. And that makes sense; they aren't used to playing this deep into March. It's a stamina builder and learning experience either way. |
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Post by planoaggie on Mar 27, 2024 10:26:40 GMT -5
This game vs Troy will be our hardest test this team has 5 Double figure scores one is from Charlotte. WE HAVE to PLAY IN THE 60s to win point blank. I don't know if these ladies have the shooting legs at this point of the season. The shots just look off and it's probably because they are tired. And that makes sense; they aren't used to playing this deep into March. It's a stamina builder and learning experience either way. This is an unacceptable excuse, tired legs. Just like Troy, it is our coach's job to get the women in shape for the duration of the entire season including the post-season. Any team playing this late in the season can use that excuse. If the coach determines their legs are weaken, then coach the team and tell them to stop taking so many freaking 3-pt shots and slow the tempo down. As a fan, yes I pay attention to stats. As a coach, I do not mess with their mental toughness. We will work on whatever it takes to win. |
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Post by saabman on Mar 27, 2024 10:58:38 GMT -5
This game vs Troy will be our hardest test this team has 5 Double figure scores one is from Charlotte. WE HAVE to PLAY IN THE 60s to win point blank. I don't know if these ladies have the shooting legs at this point of the season. The shots just look off and it's probably because they are tired. And that makes sense; they aren't used to playing this deep into March. It's a stamina builder and learning experience either way. Please stop with the conditioning excuses. Anyone that played at this level should know that these are fine-tuned and conditioned athletes. I'm not buying into this their legs are tired they are out of condition excuse. If a player shot is off it could be just as much mental as it is physical. At this point it's not the physical conditioning that is the problem but it is the mental conditioning and execution. That is where proper coaching comes into play. Coach Rob has to prepare them mentally the rest will take care of itself. |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Mar 27, 2024 10:59:50 GMT -5
what's the chances of an hbcu winning an ncaa "d1" national championship in modern day ncaa basketball? matter fact, what's the chances of an hbcu advancing beyond the 2nd round of the "d1" ncaa national basketball championship tournament? in modern day ncaa basketball? our chances are virtually "zero" cuz no hbcu's on either the men's nor women's side have done so. for that reason, i've been a long time advocate of there being an equivalent of the fcs playoffs at the d1 level in basketball cuz most low to mid-major schools have almost no chance of making the ncaa d1 2nd or 3rd rounds, much less the sweet 16 or final 4. so for "me", the wnit more less represents an fcs playoffs version of d1 basketball whereby low to mid-major schools have a far better chance of "advancing" to the later the rounds. so give me the wnit or nit for men all day every day. and if either our wbb or mbb teams make the "big dance", give me a 16 seed and put me in the "play-in games" where i have a legit chance to "win" a doggone game like our men did against liberty several years ago. and look at our women's team? this is not the first time that we've advanced to the 3rd round of the wnit, we also did it when coach bibbs was our head coach and all of her wnit wins came "on the road". nobody wants to go to the "big dance" just to get blown out and sent home without a taste of victory. that's why i rather take a 16 seed and play in the "first 4" games if we make the "big dance". otherwise, give me the wnit/nit where i have a fighting chance to "win" some games and maybe even a championship...  who said they shouldn't choose the autobid? |
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Post by planoaggie on Mar 27, 2024 11:41:43 GMT -5
If I was the HC of A&T men or women basketball team and won the regular season championship and/or CAA Tournament Championship, I would always choose the NCAA automatic bid. who said they shouldn't choose the autobid? You are when you suggest that the NCAA should go to an FCS platform for basketball. The CAA will no longer have an automatic bid to the big dance if they elect to be a FCS basketball conference. You can't have it both ways. North Dakota State or South Dakota State do not get invited to the FBS playoffs. I understand the separation for football, but the gap is not as large for other sports. We just need to overhaul the transfer portal and NIL rules because they are destroying the mid-level and low-level development and competition in my opinion. It will take time to come up with an acceptable solution. |
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