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Post by Maxell on Mar 25, 2024 20:49:49 GMT -5
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Post by Maxell on Mar 25, 2024 20:56:56 GMT -5
Like being the last CAA team dancing. I don't, need those teams to win... improve conference strength. We can get 2 in the NCAA tournament. The NCAA is a pipedream until the team is ready. I actually like this much better than the Drexel or the Jackson State experience. It's fun the first time, but not fun again until you are good enough to get a 12 seed. |
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Post by westcoastaggie on Mar 25, 2024 21:02:09 GMT -5
I don't, need those teams to win... improve conference strength. We can get 2 in the NCAA tournament. The NCAA is a pipedream until the team is ready. I actually like this much better than the Drexel or the Jackson State experience. It's fun the first time, but not fun again until you are good enough to get a 12 seed. We're building our WBB program amongst alumni, fans, and students through this. I am loving the multiple tournament formats also. |
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Post by planoaggie on Mar 25, 2024 21:23:20 GMT -5
I don't, need those teams to win... improve conference strength. We can get 2 in the NCAA tournament. The NCAA is a pipedream until the team is ready. I actually like this much better than the Drexel or the Jackson State experience. It's fun the first time, but not fun again until you are good enough to get a 12 seed. How do you think a team from the CAA will achieve a 12th seed if the overall strength of the conference does not get better? |
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Post by planoaggie on Mar 25, 2024 21:28:02 GMT -5
The NCAA is a pipedream until the team is ready. I actually like this much better than the Drexel or the Jackson State experience. It's fun the first time, but not fun again until you are good enough to get a 12 seed. We're building our WBB program amongst alumni, fans, and students through this. I am loving the multiple tournament formats also. What multiple tournament formats are you referring to? NCAA and WNIT? CAA and NCAA or WNIT? I am confused. |
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Post by Maxell on Mar 25, 2024 21:32:13 GMT -5
We're building our WBB program amongst alumni, fans, and students through this. I am loving the multiple tournament formats also. What multiple tournament formats are you referring to? NCAA and WNIT? CAA and NCAA or WNIT? I am confused. NCAA, WBIT, WNIT |
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Post by A&T-roy on Mar 25, 2024 21:47:57 GMT -5
Monmouth loss to Duquesne 65-69 in OT. Monmouth gave the game away by missing FTs with a 5 pt lead in Regulation. #Smh |
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Post by planoaggie on Mar 25, 2024 22:30:36 GMT -5
What multiple tournament formats are you referring to? NCAA and WNIT? CAA and NCAA or WNIT? I am confused. NCAA, WBIT, WNIT Thanks. Yes, the WBIT was introduced this year. This does give us more opportunity to play past the CAA Tournament, but the conference strength still needs to get better to place more teams in the upper tier tournaments (NCAA and WBIT). |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Mar 26, 2024 11:28:22 GMT -5
Thanks. Yes, the WBIT was introduced this year. This does give us more opportunity to play past the CAA Tournament, but the conference strength still needs to get better to place more teams in the upper tier tournaments (NCAA and WBIT). what's the chances of an hbcu winning an ncaa "d1" national championship in modern day ncaa basketball? matter fact, what's the chances of an hbcu advancing beyond the 2nd round of the "d1" ncaa national basketball championship tournament? in modern day ncaa basketball? our chances are virtually "zero" cuz no hbcu's on either the men's nor women's side have done so. for that reason, i've been a long time advocate of there being an equivalent of the fcs playoffs at the d1 level in basketball cuz most low to mid-major schools have almost no chance of making the ncaa d1 2nd or 3rd rounds, much less the sweet 16 or final 4. so for "me", the wnit more less represents an fcs playoffs version of d1 basketball whereby low to mid-major schools have a far better chance of "advancing" to the later the rounds. so give me the wnit or nit for men all day every day. and if either our wbb or mbb teams make the "big dance", give me a 16 seed and put me in the "play-in games" where i have a legit chance to "win" a doggone game like our men did against liberty several years ago. and look at our women's team? this is not the first time that we've advanced to the 3rd round of the wnit, we also did it when coach bibbs was our head coach and all of her wnit wins came "on the road". nobody wants to go to the "big dance" just to get blown out and sent home without a taste of victory. that's why i rather take a 16 seed and play in the "first 4" games if we make the "big dance". otherwise, give me the wnit/nit where i have a fighting chance to "win" some games and maybe even a championship... |
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Post by A&T AGGIE 96 on Mar 26, 2024 12:05:06 GMT -5
Thanks. Yes, the WBIT was introduced this year. This does give us more opportunity to play past the CAA Tournament, but the conference strength still needs to get better to place more teams in the upper tier tournaments (NCAA and WBIT). what's the chances of an hbcu winning an ncaa "d1" national championship in modern day ncaa basketball? matter fact, what's the chances of an hbcu advancing beyond the 2nd round of the "d1" ncaa national basketball championship tournament? in modern day ncaa basketball? our chances are virtually "zero" cuz no hbcu's on either the men's nor women's side have done so. for that reason, i've been a long time advocate of there being an equivalent of the fcs playoffs at the d1 level in basketball cuz most low to mid-major schools have almost no chance of making the ncaa d1 2nd or 3rd rounds, much less the sweet 16 or final 4. so for "me", the wnit more less represents an fcs playoffs version of d1 basketball whereby low to mid-major schools have a far better chance of "advancing" to the later the rounds. so give me the wnit or nit for men all day every day. and if either our wbb or mbb teams make the "big dance", give me a 16 seed and put me in the "play-in games" where i have a legit chance to "win" a doggone game like our men did against liberty several years ago. and look at our women's team? this is not the first time that we've advanced to the 3rd round of the wnit, we also did it when coach bibbs was our head coach and all of her wnit wins came "on the road". nobody wants to go to the "big dance" just to get blown out and sent home without a taste of victory. that's why i rather take a 16 seed and play in the "first 4" games if we make the "big dance". otherwise, give me the wnit/nit where i have a fighting chance to "win" some games and maybe even a championship... Oleschool got a point in stating the deck is really stacked against the smaller programs in NCAA basketball. You have some Cinderella stories, but for the most part the P5 got it locked down. The tournaments outside of the NCAA offer a more level playing field…home court advantage, etc. We stand a much better chance in many of the other Olympic sports and in football at our level (FCS), compared to basketball. They gonna make sure the smaller schools and conferences have bad seeds and long travel times. |
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Post by captaggie on Mar 26, 2024 12:29:32 GMT -5
I agree OSA. Other than getting a "unit", I dont place a lot of emphasis on the big dance (other than the tournament championship).
How do you get a 12 seed? IMO, the CAA will need to upgrade the performance (talent, budget, quality wins) of its top-tier teams. That's a coordinated, multi-year effort. The tournament champ needs to win that first game in the next two years. Need WBIT win(s) soon. Our deep run in the WNIT is good (a Friday win is great). OOC wins are important too. The conference needs to analyze the five teams post-season performance to determine areas of improvement.
Much like poll standings, you need to build momentum and consistency.
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Post by natedizzle on Mar 26, 2024 13:49:41 GMT -5
I agree OSA. Other than getting a "unit", I dont place a lot of emphasis on the big dance (other than the tournament championship). How do you get a 12 seed? IMO, the CAA will need to upgrade the performance (talent, budget, quality wins) of its top-tier teams. That's a coordinated, multi-year effort. The tournament champ needs to win that first game in the next two years. Need WBIT win(s) soon. Our deep run in the WNIT is good (a Friday win is great). OOC wins are important too. The conference needs to analyze the five teams post-season performance to determine areas of improvement. Much like poll standings, you need to build momentum and consistency. Building momentum and consistency is the hard part. You develop players and they leave. You find a winning coach and he will be bought out from under you. |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Mar 26, 2024 14:57:03 GMT -5
I agree OSA. Other than getting a "unit", I dont place a lot of emphasis on the big dance (other than the tournament championship). How do you get a 12 seed? IMO, the CAA will need to upgrade the performance (talent, budget, quality wins) of its top-tier teams. That's a coordinated, multi-year effort. The tournament champ needs to win that first game in the next two years. Need WBIT win(s) soon. Our deep run in the WNIT is good (a Friday win is great). OOC wins are important too. The conference needs to analyze the five teams post-season performance to determine areas of improvement. Much like poll standings, you need to build momentum and consistency. i agree except for the part in "bold". i'm of the belief that individual conferences have no control over individual college athletic programs relative to "success or failure". i said the same thing when we were in the meac. no conference whether hbcu or pwc can improve the performances of individual member schools. i look at the schools that left the acc (maryland) and the big east (rutgers, bc, syracuse, miami, louisville) and their programs are no better off in their new conferences than they were in their original conferences, some are "worse off". conference hopping at the p5 level isn't done to improve athletic program performances, instead its done to acquire "more money" than they were getting in their previous conference. so in other words, i'm saying that there ain't nothing the caa conference itself can do to collectively improve the performances of its member schools. none of our programs are any better now than we were when we were in the meac. matter fact, some of our programs are "worse off" than when we were in the meac (i.e., football, men's basketball, track/field). besides, "to me", even if we got as high as a 12 seed at the big dance, we still very likely would "lose" our 1st round game. and even if we won a 1st round game, the chances of winning a 2nd round game is almost "zero". of the teams left in the sweet 16, "none" of them are 12 seeds or higher. the highest seed left is nc state which is an 11 seed but they also won the acc tournament championship. other than nc state, the next highest seed is clemson who was a 6 seed. the rest are 1 and 2 seeds sprinkled with a couple of 4 and 5 seeds. i mean, we've gotta be "realistic" about this thing. the days of a vcu, george mason, or unc charlotte in the final 4 are a very unlikely "rarity". i don't see anyway that an individual conference like the caa can change that... |
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Post by saabman on Mar 26, 2024 15:07:59 GMT -5
I don't, need those teams to win... improve conference strength. We can get 2 in the NCAA tournament. The NCAA is a pipedream until the team is ready. I actually like this much better than the Drexel or the Jackson State experience. It's fun the first time, but not fun again until you are good enough to get a 12 seed. You want a 12th seed. Play a challenging P5 out of conference schedule and win and add that to the CAA championship . Until you can do that consistently a 16 seed is the best you're going to do. Personally for me I like playing in these other out of season tournaments. Because we continue to get National exposure and in saying that may catch the eye of some upper tier recruits. But in the end you have to win. |
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Post by marchingband1969 on Mar 26, 2024 16:45:16 GMT -5
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