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Post by Agg E. Pride on Dec 30, 2023 16:07:17 GMT -5
Well...
Y'all saw this BS.
Until we find:
Athletic 4's & 5's who can play defense & finish
GUARDS WHO CAN SHOOT
Some depth at 1, 2, & 3
Did I say guards who can shoot?
THIS WILL BE THE NORM!!!
I will give Ross props...I told y'all that if you run the offense through our 3 or 4, we will get a QUIET, YET USEFUL 10-18 from J-Rob. What did we get today? Y'all will learn to listen to a bruvvah one day.
Put this season in the pantry. 4-23 at best.
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Post by aggie75 on Dec 30, 2023 16:34:44 GMT -5
I'm more concerned about how serious Glaspers injury is.
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Post by jbrob on Dec 30, 2023 16:37:35 GMT -5
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Post by VA's Finest on Dec 30, 2023 18:39:20 GMT -5
Yeah he scored the first 8 points and then got lost on the bench til 10 8 minutes left in game.
By the way, there are some opportunities to improve game management from staff. We allowed a 2nd half run go on for too long, I'm assuming trying to get to under 16 media. Once the lead ballooned from like 14 to almost 30 via bad shots by us and consecutive baskets by them you just have to burn the T.O.. We arent experienced enough to play through that. That's where you as the HC have to try and stem them tide.
But I guess the experienced Ross knows that???
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Post by aggiegrad97 on Dec 30, 2023 18:52:40 GMT -5
Chantilly is not his hometown & I know for a fact heβd be highly offended if you said that to him π
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Post by Agg E. Pride on Dec 30, 2023 19:19:16 GMT -5
Yeah he scored the first 8 points and then got lost on the bench til 10 8 minutes left in game. By the way, there are some opportunities to improve game management from staff. We allowed a 2nd half run go on for too long, I'm assuming trying to get to under 16 media. Once the lead ballooned from like 14 to almost 30 via bad shots by us and consecutive baskets by them you just have to burn the T.O.. We arent experienced enough to play through that. That's where you as the HC have to try and stem them tide. But I guess the experienced Ross knows that??? Try 14 first half points then NOTHING in the second half & #7 going 5-14 from the floor with 11 of those shots being BAD ones. π€·π½ββοΈπ€¦πΎββοΈπ‘ Coach needs to HELP HIM understand what constitutes a "good" shot. If he can't understand the difference, send him on...The portal awaits.
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Post by jbrob on Dec 30, 2023 20:34:23 GMT -5
Chantilly is not his hometown & I know for a fact heβd be highly offended if you said that to him π He's never been to Chantilly.
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Post by VA's Finest on Dec 30, 2023 20:38:33 GMT -5
And on 9 attempts, very efficient, high percentage shots in the low post.
It's almost like once we give up a lead and teams extend leads we try to get it all back in 1 shot.
They need to understand there are no 20 point shots in basketball, there are however high quality 2 pt shots and defensive stops.
We gave up way too much ground in the low post, and really don't communicate defensively.
Another thing, there was a hard foul on Glasper going to hole, it took him a couple minutes to get off the ground and a couple additional at FT line before he attempted and made both shots. Officials didn't want to look at the play and that's fine. But after making shot Ross didn't have sub at table to replace Glasper as he was visibly hurt by something. This goes back to the whole game management aspect of an "experienced" coach. Of course Glasper was a liability on the next defensive possession. He subbed out after a GMU score.
We need to better in all aspects. Can deal with us losing as long as there is effort and just good, logical basketball 101 type decisions being made. It's get real tough when what appear to be relatively simple common sense things are occurring like picking the ball after a missed shot coming up the floor. STOP THE BALL,
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Post by planoaggie on Dec 30, 2023 21:08:52 GMT -5
Yeah he scored the first 8 points and then got lost on the bench til 10 8 minutes left in game. By the way, there are some opportunities to improve game management from staff. We allowed a 2nd half run go on for too long, I'm assuming trying to get to under 16 media. Once the lead ballooned from like 14 to almost 30 via bad shots by us and consecutive baskets by them you just have to burn the T.O.. We arent experienced enough to play through that. That's where you as the HC have to try and stem them tide. But I guess the experienced Ross knows that??? Try 14 first half points then NOTHING in the second half & #7 going 5-14 from the floor with 11 of those shots being BAD ones. π€·π½ββοΈπ€¦πΎββοΈπ‘ Coach needs to HELP HIM understand what constitutes a "good" shot. If he can't understand the difference, send him on...The portal awaits. To me I see another Kam which is not a bad thing if the coach develops the player as you suggest. Teach him what are good shot selection. We don't know if Kam would have been receptive to this type of development if he had a different coach. I would not send Glasper packing unless it is clearly determined that the coach worked hard with him in trying to change his shot selection.
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Post by Agg E. Pride on Dec 30, 2023 21:50:06 GMT -5
Try 14 first half points then NOTHING in the second half & #7 going 5-14 from the floor with 11 of those shots being BAD ones. π€·π½ββοΈπ€¦πΎββοΈπ‘ Coach needs to HELP HIM understand what constitutes a "good" shot. If he can't understand the difference, send him on...The portal awaits. To me I see another Kam which is not a bad thing if the coach develops the player as you suggest. Teach him what are good shot selection. We don't know if Kam would have been receptive to this type of development if he had a different coach. I would not send Glasper packing unless it is clearly determined that the coach worked hard with him in trying to change his shot selection. That's the problem...#7 is shaping up to be another Kam, & that ain't good. I'm sorry, brethren...Ross MUST do a roster overhaul for '24-'25! I'm good with him keeping #3 (maybe), Left Jab's son (if he hits the weight room & gets lasik surgery), #10, & Thanos (for a "show & prove" year or hit the portal). These dudes ain't D1 players. Get mad at me if you wish, but whomever evaluated this cast of characters as mid-major D1 players didn't take their medicine that day. Riddle me this... What other D1 programs offered ANY of our guys? Point proven.
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Post by saabman on Dec 30, 2023 22:17:14 GMT -5
The shot that is not stressed enough in basketball in this generation for the guard and forward position is the mid-range and in paint pull up jumper..i.e the two point shots . These kids are trained from pee wee ball,Middle School, HS to college that the three-pointer is the end all shot to get you back into a game quickly ,so that is what they do even when they have time to chip away with easy baskets. The way you stress this lost art is a simple application of sitting their A$$ on the bench and communicating your displeasure of their shots selection. If it continues set them on the bench next to you. He will get the message as you drill him about his shot selection . Losing is one thing but Losing because of stupid shot selection is another.
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Post by planoaggie on Dec 30, 2023 22:35:04 GMT -5
To me I see another Kam which is not a bad thing if the coach develops the player as you suggest. Teach him what are good shot selection. We don't know if Kam would have been receptive to this type of development if he had a different coach. I would not send Glasper packing unless it is clearly determined that the coach worked hard with him in trying to change his shot selection. That's the problem...#7 is shaping up to be another Kam, & that ain't good. I'm sorry, brethren...Ross MUST do a roster overhaul for '24-'25! I'm good with him keeping #3 (maybe), Left Jab's son (if he hits the weight room & gets lasik surgery), #10, & Thanos (for a "show & prove" year or hit the portal). These dudes ain't D1 players. Get mad at me if you wish, but whomever evaluated this cast of characters as mid-major D1 players didn't take their medicine that day. Riddle me this... What other D1 programs offered ANY of our guys? Point proven. These are all Ross's boys except 2-3 players. Ross is not going to drop many of these players. He is going to have to develop most of them if they don't decide to leave on their own. Ross decided on the balance between HS recruits and transfer portal players. Since conference play is about to start we will begin to truly learn how good of a HC Ross is. This is his 2nd go around in the CAA. By the way, so many were so comfortable in getting rid of last year's players so that Coach Ross could build his own team the way he desired. We need to stop blaming these players so quickly. They did not give themselves scholarships.
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Post by Agg E. Pride on Dec 30, 2023 23:10:07 GMT -5
That's the problem...#7 is shaping up to be another Kam, & that ain't good. I'm sorry, brethren...Ross MUST do a roster overhaul for '24-'25! I'm good with him keeping #3 (maybe), Left Jab's son (if he hits the weight room & gets lasik surgery), #10, & Thanos (for a "show & prove" year or hit the portal). These dudes ain't D1 players. Get mad at me if you wish, but whomever evaluated this cast of characters as mid-major D1 players didn't take their medicine that day. Riddle me this... What other D1 programs offered ANY of our guys? Point proven. These are all Ross's boys except 2-3 players. Ross is not going to drop many of these players. He is going to have to develop most of them if they don't decide to leave on their own. Ross decided on the balance between HS recruits and transfer portal players. Since conference play is about to start we will begin to truly learn how good of a HC Ross is. This is his 2nd go around in the CAA. By the way, so many were so comfortable in getting rid of last year's players so Coach Ross could build his own team the way he desired. We need to stop blaming these players so quickly. They did not give themselves scholarships. Then we must eat a 4-26 season & be the laughingstock of D1 basketball for the next 4 years. If "these are Ross' boys" & THIS is indicative of his ability to evaluate, recruit, & sign talent, WE ARE IN TROUBLE.
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Post by planoaggie on Dec 30, 2023 23:35:42 GMT -5
These are all Ross's boys except 2-3 players. Ross is not going to drop many of these players. He is going to have to develop most of them if they don't decide to leave on their own. Ross decided on the balance between HS recruits and transfer portal players. Since conference play is about to start we will begin to truly learn how good of a HC Ross is. This is his 2nd go around in the CAA. By the way, so many were so comfortable in getting rid of last year's players so that Coach Ross could build his own team the way he desired. We need to stop blaming these players so quickly. They did not give themselves scholarships. Then we must eat a 4-26 season & be the laughingstock of D1 basketball for the next 4 years. If "these are Ross' boys" & THIS is indicative of his ability to evaluate, recruit, & sign talent, WE ARE IN TROUBLE. Don't forget about the injuries he is dealing with.
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Post by Agg E. Pride on Dec 30, 2023 23:57:04 GMT -5
Then we must eat a 4-26 season & be the laughingstock of D1 basketball for the next 4 years. If "these are Ross' boys" & THIS is indicative of his ability to evaluate, recruit, & sign talent, WE ARE IN TROUBLE. Don't forget about the injuries he is dealing with. To my knowledge, heβs dealing with two injuries, both of whom are unproven commodities in Division One basketball. Face factsβ¦We ARE NOT GOOD.
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