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Post by Aggie One on Dec 21, 2023 22:11:05 GMT -5
Coles revealed that his once-lively recruitment slowed considerably when the transfer portal opened on Dec. 4, with rosters filling to the point that a few schools from which he held offers didn’t accept his commitment. This happens more times that you would imagine. An offer by itself means very little these days. There are generic offers just to let a player know that a school is interested in them ... and then there are "committable offers" that include how much money you are receiving from the school and specific things like that. Anytime you hear of a player with bigtime FBS offers suddenly end up at a FCS program, 99 percent of the time it was because the kid did not actually receive a committable offer. Personally, I think this scenario has become the norm since the implementation of what has now become a unlimited transfer portal with little to no restrictions. The high value quotient of portal transfers has replaced the recruiting and development of high school athletes as a first priority. It has become most FBS and now a good number of FCS coaches first option rather than a last resort thereby reducing the number of available D-1 scholarship opportunities for those excellent athletes who may be just outside that coveted 4 or 5-star recruit grouping. It's not really a reflection on that individual recruit's abilities but rather these big name FBS programs simply aren't going to put a lot of time or effort into the development of 17- or 18-year-old kids over 2-3 years when there is ready made pool of 21–23-year-old grown men out there that have already gone through all that physical and sometimes mental maturation process.
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Post by planoaggie on Dec 22, 2023 6:54:01 GMT -5
Where is the evidence that the linemen tend to wait longer than skill position players in signing? This makes no since to me. These OL and DL players (families) think no different than the other positions. They want to go to their top choice or best offer (NIL a factor as well). Why would these transfer linemen not want to get an early start at their next school like the skill players?
So if we did not sign any or no linemen early then that is a direct reflection on how well we are doing in attracting these specific players "in the eyes of those players." No shame, join the rest of the crowd. No one is saying that Coach Brown won't land some good linemen later, but don't try to tell me that the "Grand Opening" was a great success when you missed one of your top targeted goal "for that day." The business still may endup being a success.
Give Coach Brown all his props for what he did in other key needed positions, but his midterm grade as of today is a C+ to B- for me. An A is still possible, so no panic. As I mentioned before, all or most coaches do a great job in "offering" kids to fulfill critical team needs. I am about that "signing (NLI)" and the earlier you convince kids to sign with you the better recruiter you are in my opinion. Just like how you rank a car salesman or realtor.
The signing season is young which we all understand, but there are more tests to improve that grade which I am rooting that he can.
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Post by westcoastaggie on Dec 22, 2023 7:56:43 GMT -5
Where is the evidence that the linemen tend to wait longer than skill position players in signing? This makes no since to me. These OL and DL players (families) think no different than the other positions. They want to go to their top choice or best offer (NIL a factor as well). Why would these transfer linemen not want to get an early start at their next school like the skill players? So if we did not sign any or no linemen early then that is a direct reflection on how well we are doing in attracting these specific players "in the eyes of those players." No shame, join the rest of the crowd. No one is saying that Coach Brown won't land some good linemen later, but don't try to tell me that the "Grand Opening" was a great success when you missed one of your top targeted goal "for that day." The business still may endup being a success. Give Coach Brown all his props for what he did in other key needed positions, but his midterm grade as of today is a C+ to B- for me. An A is still possible, so no panic. As I mentioned before, all or most coaches do a great job in "offering" kids to fulfill critical team needs. I am about that "signing (NLI)" and the earlier you convince kids to sign with you the better recruiter you are in my opinion. Just like how you rank a car salesman or realtor. The signing season is young which we all understand, but there are more tests to improve that grade which I am rooting that he can. Someone posted a list of the remaining offers that are out there. He is offering a lot of 300lb+ Defensive Tackles. The odds are good that we’ll land at least 2 of them. But, it is bewildering that we didn’t get any of those targets to sign on Wednesday.
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Post by DECKS on Dec 22, 2023 9:05:53 GMT -5
Today is the last early signing day for high school kids.
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Post by A&T AGGIE 96 on Dec 22, 2023 10:42:07 GMT -5
Where is the evidence that the linemen tend to wait longer than skill position players in signing? This makes no since to me. These OL and DL players (families) think no different than the other positions. They want to go to their top choice or best offer (NIL a factor as well). Why would these transfer linemen not want to get an early start at their next school like the skill players? So if we did not sign any or no linemen early then that is a direct reflection on how well we are doing in attracting these specific players "in the eyes of those players." No shame, join the rest of the crowd. No one is saying that Coach Brown won't land some good linemen later, but don't try to tell me that the "Grand Opening" was a great success when you missed one of your top targeted goal "for that day." The business still may endup being a success. Give Coach Brown all his props for what he did in other key needed positions, but his midterm grade as of today is a C+ to B- for me. An A is still possible, so no panic. As I mentioned before, all or most coaches do a great job in "offering" kids to fulfill critical team needs. I am about that "signing (NLI)" and the earlier you convince kids to sign with you the better recruiter you are in my opinion. Just like how you rank a car salesman or realtor. The signing season is young which we all understand, but there are more tests to improve that grade which I am rooting that he can. Someone posted a list of the remaining offers that are out there. He is offering a lot of 300lb+ Defensive Tackles. The odds are good that we’ll land at least 2 of them. But, it is bewildering that we didn’t get any of those targets to sign on Wednesday. It would have been great to get some of those kids to sign on the dotted line, but in this new era that we live in I don't find it shocking that highly sought after recruits are taking their time and weighing all their options before making a final decision. Is it the smartest move...maybe, maybe not...but only the players know what their goals are. Do they want to go to a program where they can get immediate playing time...are they looking for coaches that can take them to the next level. Do they want to get closer to home...do they want to get far away from home? This rebuild will take time, and it's only the beginning.
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Post by Aggie One on Dec 22, 2023 13:01:20 GMT -5
A 6-5 300 OL transfer from Marshall.
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Post by bseballaggie on Dec 22, 2023 13:19:38 GMT -5
As of yesterday, these guys whom we offered had not signed with anyone Zayy 6'5 255 James Gillispie 6'3 310 Demetrius Baldwin Jr Big Baby Dumezil 6'2 290 Tristan Haddock 6'6 285 RJ Adams 6'4 320 Keenan Hatcher 6'3 315 Keon Webb 6'6 300 Ray Qwoun Taylor 6'3 270 Amory Hills 6'6 335 Chinazo Obobi 6'5 300Timmothy Hammonds 6'6 315 Eric Aldridge Jodie Freeman 6'6 340 Dwayne Bryant 6'3 280 J Don JUCO Xavier McIver 6'3 290 Nate Carson 6'6 265
One Down.
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Post by planoaggie on Dec 22, 2023 14:24:02 GMT -5
Someone posted a list of the remaining offers that are out there. He is offering a lot of 300lb+ Defensive Tackles. The odds are good that we’ll land at least 2 of them. But, it is bewildering that we didn’t get any of those targets to sign on Wednesday. It would have been great to get some of those kids to sign on the dotted line, but in this new era that we live in I don't find it shocking that highly sought after recruits are taking their time and weighing all their options before making a final decision. Is it the smartest move...maybe, maybe not...but only the players know what their goals are. Do they want to go to a program where they can get immediate playing time...are they looking for coaches that can take them to the next level. Do they want to get closer to home...do they want to get far away from home? This rebuild will take time, and it's only the beginning. That was not my point. Nothing has changed in such away that some kids sign early and some kids sign late when they are more comfortable. I was saying that "for all the linemen that wanted to sign early" and that being a A&T high priority we should be a little concern (not panic) why we could not sign one. That is a surprise for me. Would you not be surprised if he did not sign one single QB during early signing day? If we had major needs identified by the head coach himself, then we want to see players signed early for those needed positions. That is why I said there is no evidence out there that linemen prefer to wait late in the recruiting process to sign versus any other position. That reflects on the coaches abilities to persuade these kids to sign early or find the players that want to sign early. I want them enrolling in the spring semester like Alabama, Georgia, etc if they have the grades. I do understand your points and agree with a lot of them, but a lot of kids are making their choice early as well and we took advantage of that and did not make excuses that kids have lots of options to wait. So if it worked for other positions then why did it not work for linemen. Is not linemen (defense) suppose to be his strong suit? Again, he can earn a grade of A because there is quite a bit of time left, therefore I am not too hard on Coach Brown and his staff right now on recruiting. Now we move on and rate his performance on the late signers (2nd semester grade) and then give him an overall grade for the entire recruiting process. I know some make a big deal about signing a coach a grade in now instead of waiting until the end of recruiting but that is not real life. Kids get mid semester grades or updates on their progress all the time, adults get performance evaluation periodically before bonuses or raises or being fired. As already stated by many, he has a lot of good linemen targeted but we need to sign them in the near future. Good luck to Coach Brown and his staff. 🙏👍
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Post by DECKS on Dec 22, 2023 14:31:16 GMT -5
I'll be surprised if one of the high school kids doesn't commit today.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Dec 22, 2023 14:33:01 GMT -5
A 6-5 300 OL transfer from Marshall. i've got only one word. mattes!!!
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Post by aggieswag on Dec 22, 2023 19:59:13 GMT -5
All I know is FAMU is on 🔥 I think kids are mostly looking for exposure 2nd to NIL but very few are getting lucrative deals.. exposure is where we used to have an advantage and now the conversation goes something like this
Kid - do I have a chance to play on national tv at your school.
Us - there is a chance we will have to play a non conference game to do it our conference has its own streaming network. We are not allowed to use ESPN or other networks that have linear tv coverage nationally ..
Kid - what about the celebration bowl that’s one of the biggest bowls of the year
Us - although we are an HBCU our conference does not participate in that
Kid - well who does the CAA use
Us - FloSports
Kid - who
Us - FloSports it’s an up and coming platform. Right now we are the only conference that uses it but we’re hoping others will leave ESPN and come over
Kid - let me call you back
There are those who will hate this post, but I believe it’s a reality.
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Post by aggie2039 on Dec 22, 2023 20:07:46 GMT -5
All I know is FAMU is on 🔥 I think kids are mostly looking for exposure 2nd to NIL but very few are getting lucrative deals.. exposure is where we used to have an advantage and now the conversation goes something like this Kid - do I have a chance to play on national tv at your school. Us - there is a chance we will have to play a non conference game to do it our conference has its own streaming network. We are not allowed to use ESPN or other networks that have linear tv coverage nationally .. Kid - what about the celebration bowl that’s one of the biggest bowls of the year Us - although we are an HBCU our conference does not participate in that Kid - well who does the CAA use Us - FloSports Kid - who Us - FloSports it’s an up and coming platform. Right now we are the only conference that uses it but we’re hoping others will leave ESPN and come over Kid - let me call you back There are those who will hate this post, but I believe it’s a reality. FAMU like JSU is transfer heavy at every position. FAMU recruits any kid, this current staff is looking for "student" athletes. FAMU is looking for athletes not students. We are recruiting players with CAA, SOCON and FBS offers...those players do not care about the celebration bowl. Furthermore, the game is not as big as you make it out to be. Our staff is not offering the same kinds of players. Apples and oranges! True, it was us and Washington brought in a bunch of guys that quit the team or never made it to campus because of grades. every recruit in the 2023 class actually showed up in the summer. I haven't any of the 2023 recruits post that they are in the portal either. Quit your crying and complaining.
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Post by aggieswag on Dec 22, 2023 20:15:33 GMT -5
All I see is 3 stars and above from players that are making commitments that we are over here making excuses of why we can’t get. Exposure is a big deal whether you want to believe it or not. And right now NC A&T and Hampton have the least exposure of all HBCUS. That’s just facts and facts are stubborn things. You may believe that fact has no impact on a players decision but I believe otherwise.
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Post by aggie2039 on Dec 22, 2023 20:17:17 GMT -5
All I see is 3 stars and above from players that are making commitments that we are over here making excuses of why we can’t get. Exposure is a big deal whether you want to believe it or not. And right now NC A&T and Hampton have the least exposure of all HBCUS. That’s just facts and facts are stubborn things. You may believe that fact has no impact on a players decision but I believe otherwise. Yes commitments to FAMU that are transfers... Where are the 3 star commits for the MEAC schools? FAMU will recruit anyone, even if they cant spell FAMU will take them. herosports.com/2023-top-fcs-recruiting-classes-bzbz/The 2023 #1 recruiting class is from the CAA not HBCU conference. The 2024 #1 class is from the WAC, please stop the madness. The #2 is Campbell again.. 247sports.com/Season/2024-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/?utm_source=247Sports&utm_medium=ExternalEmbed&utm_campaign=TeamRankings2023 High School Recruits + Transfers 1. Campbell Overall D1 rank: No. 92 2. Jackson State Overall D1 rank: No. 125 3. Cal Poly Overall D1 rank: No. 128 4. Portland State Overall D1 rank: No. 130 5. Austin Peay Overall D1 rank: No. 131 6. Princeton Overall D1 rank: No. 133 7. Florida A&M Overall D1 rank: No. 135 8. Western Carolina Overall D1 rank: No. 136 9. Harvard Overall D1 rank: No. 139 10. Houston Christian Overall D1 rank: No. 141
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Post by thewinner on Dec 22, 2023 20:20:16 GMT -5
Coach indicated that we have another commit. I'm hoping this one is a DT
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