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Post by Bornthrilla on Dec 4, 2023 21:48:12 GMT -5
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Post by jbrob on Dec 4, 2023 22:08:26 GMT -5
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Post by aggie2039 on Dec 5, 2023 14:47:47 GMT -5
www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/39047353/ncaa-proposes-rule-let-schools-athletes-enter-nil-dealsNCAA president Charlie Baker proposed rule changes Tuesday that would allow Division I schools for the first time to pay their athletes in ways that are not tied to educational resources. Baker shared the proposed changes in a letter sent to member schools. If Division I schools choose to adopt the rules, they would be allowed to enter into name, image and likeness deals directly with their athletes. The new rules would also create a new subdivision of Division I schools that would be allowed to create its own set of rules for recruiting, transfers, roster size and a wide range of other policies. To be a part of that subdivision, each school would have to put millions of dollars each year into a trust fund for athletes. Baker, who is expected to speak in more detail about the proposal during a public appearance Wednesday in Las Vegas, has privately floated the idea to college sports leaders during the past several weeks. Some high-profile athletic directors, such as Ohio State's Gene Smith, showed public support for the idea Tuesday. "I am 100% supportive of your efforts," Smith said Baker in a post on X (formerly Twitter) on Tuesday. "Intercollegiate Athletics needs the proactive and forward thinking you are providing. Thank you for this letter!" Schools in the new, highest-paying subdivision would be required to set aside a minimum of $30,000 per athlete for at least half of their athletes on an annual basis. That money is ostensibly to help athletes continue educational pursuits during the summer or after their careers, but there would be no requirements for how they spend it. Schools could choose to provide more money to each athlete or provide money to more of their athletes. It would also be left up to individual schools to decide when they share that money with athletes. The NCAA doesn't intend to require that an athlete finish his or her degree before they get access to that money.
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Post by aggie2039 on Dec 5, 2023 14:51:46 GMT -5
Here is the breakdown from the article:
The new subdivision would do the following: Schools may opt in or out to the new subdivision. New subdivision has strict minimum standrard rooted in athlete investment. Members may create their own NIL deals with their own athletes. Members may directly compensate athletes through a trust fund. Members are required to distribute to athletes "thousands of dollars in additional educationally related funds without limitation." No cap on the amount of funding that a program can provide an athlete. Entry into the subdivision requires a minimum $30,000 per year per athlete investment into the "enhanced education trust fund" for at least half of the school's countable athletes. Schools determine when the athletes receive the amount, which will total $120,000 for four-year athletes. Schools must abide by Title IX framework, 50% of the investment must be directed towards women athletes. NCAA will be over the subdivision and the members will compete against other members in Division 1. (Current CFP models and national championship selections methods are unaltered). Schools in the new subdivision have control of decision-making regarding schoolarship limits and countable coaches. Major conference programs can increase the limits or do away with them altogether.
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Post by saabman on Dec 5, 2023 19:02:24 GMT -5
That is one boneheaded decision that will force low resource institutions like HBCU's and some FCS programs at the D1 level to remove themselves from the D1 platform and back to D2 . This is the NCAA D1 form of Gingrification . π π€£ π
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Post by jbrob on Dec 11, 2023 18:07:04 GMT -5
Georgia Southern is raising money for NIL.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Dec 11, 2023 22:09:39 GMT -5
"anytime" that athletic success is predicated on "funding and resources", hbcu's will be at a big "disadvantage". this is an "arms race" that hbcu's should not want to get tangled up in...
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Post by Bornthrilla on Dec 11, 2023 22:15:41 GMT -5
"anytime" that athletic success is predicated on "funding and resources", hbcu's will be at a big "disadvantage". this is an "arms race" that hbcu's should not want to get tangled up in... That might just be the reality of college football moving forward though.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Dec 11, 2023 22:34:01 GMT -5
"anytime" that athletic success is predicated on "funding and resources", hbcu's will be at a big "disadvantage". this is an "arms race" that hbcu's should not want to get tangled up in... That might just be the reality of college football moving forward though. all i know is that if i'm an fcs powerhouse like ndsu or sdsu and bcs schools were offering some of my guys 6 figure nil agreements, i'd wish any of my guys who accepted the offers the very best in the future. meanwhile, its "next man up" syndrome as far as i'd be concerned. now if ndsu alums felt that they could match or exceed those 6 figure nil agreements, i'd tell them to "knock themselves out". but i ain't personally losing no doggone sleep over nil agreements cuz money don't exactly grow on trees. that's an "arms race" that i wouldn't want no part of. i believe that lucrative nil agreements will only be offered to the "very best" football players. i do not expect it to have a major impact on fcs schools unless you have potential nfl 1st round draft picks on your roster...
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Post by aggiechampd on Dec 11, 2023 22:45:07 GMT -5
"anytime" that athletic success is predicated on "funding and resources", hbcu's will be at a big "disadvantage". this is an "arms race" that hbcu's should not want to get tangled up in... If that's the case...we should just cancel athletics...LOL This is pretty much the future of college athletics...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Dec 12, 2023 15:18:06 GMT -5
"anytime" that athletic success is predicated on "funding and resources", hbcu's will be at a big "disadvantage". this is an "arms race" that hbcu's should not want to get tangled up in... If that's the case...we should just cancel athletics...LOL This is pretty much the future of college athletics... its the future for "big time" bcs programs. i promise you, there will not be a "nil arms race" among fcs schools. all of the "high bid nil agreements" will come from schools that have "deep pockets". that's why ndsu loses top players to bcs teams, bcs teams have "deep pockets". "typical" fcs schools come nowhere remotely close to offering 6 figure nils. besides, not everybody on a college football team gets a nil agreement anyway, not even the majority. much less do they get "6 figures". if i'm coach brown, nil agreements would be the "least" of my worries. more than 80% of college football players don't have nil agreements and i don't see a "trickle down" effect hitting fcs schools except the cream of the crop like sdsu or ndsu cuz they have to fight off bcs schools from stealing their top players...
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Post by aggie2039 on Dec 12, 2023 22:20:25 GMT -5
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Post by aggie2039 on Dec 12, 2023 22:23:27 GMT -5
Average Funding per NIL Collective by Group: Average per Collective * # Total Funding Football Men's BB Other Sports Power 5 Schools 69 $ 9,815,217 $ 6,467,391 $ 2,309,783 $ 1,038,043 Group of 5 Schools 49 $ 2,559,184 $ 1,282,653 $ 938,265 $ 338,265 FCS & other D1 Schools 92 $ 728,804 $ 381,522 $ 233,152 $ 114,130 Totals 210 62% 27% 11%
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Post by DOOMS on Dec 13, 2023 7:00:42 GMT -5
I'm not sure it makes a difference. I have but one example, but I have a homey whose son is a db at Montana State. They have an NIL collective where amongst other things they sell paraphernalia with the player's likeness and the money goes into a pot for them. I bought a sweatshirt with his kid on it. The kid is considering the portal anyways. He literally has no problem with the school, is a two-year starter, and he's getting money. It's just that the portal is there and it's tempting to see what else is out there.
At the end of the day I guess it's nice to make sure kids have enough money so they can catch a movie or fill up the tank and get a fresh cut, but beyond that we should probably leave the big money to the big boys.
Side NIL story, I read where the nation's top qb recruit is considering flipping from Georgia to Nebraska. He already moved from Arizona to Georgia in preparation to enter UGA right after bowl season. But his uncle is Nebraska's o-line coach and just got a 500,000 dollar per year raise. It's obvious as hell why he got the raise, and obvious as hell where the kid will be playing. But I assume that'll be the new norm.
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Post by saabman on Dec 13, 2023 12:06:06 GMT -5
I'm not sure it makes a difference. I have but one example, but I have a homey whose son is a db at Montana State. They have an NIL collective where amongst other things they sell paraphernalia with the player's likeness and the money goes into a pot for them. I bought a sweatshirt with his kid on it. The kid is considering the portal anyways. He literally has no problem with the school, is a two-year starter, and he's getting money. It's just that the portal is there and it's tempting to see what else is out there. At the end of the day I guess it's nice to make sure kids have enough money so they can catch a movie or fill up the tank and get a fresh cut, but beyond that we should probably leave the big money to the big boys. Side NIL story, I read where the nation's top qb recruit is considering flipping from Georgia to Nebraska. He already moved from Arizona to Georgia in preparation to enter UGA right after bowl season. But his uncle is Nebraska's o-line coach and just got a 500,000 dollar per year raise. It's obvious as hell why he got the raise, and obvious as hell where the kid will be playing. But I assume that'll be the new norm. This >s SMU all over again but this time it's Legal π π€£ π
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