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Post by AggieGroove on Dec 3, 2023 15:38:56 GMT -5
12 noon tip today
80-40, Louisville, Final
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Post by VA's Finest on Dec 3, 2023 15:57:08 GMT -5
Went to the game, ladies played hard. Hoping to find out about status of Nyah Willis, seemed to have a nasty right arm injury, left game and did not return.
Tough to match up when they have size at all 5 positions on the floor and all five can knock down 3 ball.
We competed and represented N.C. A&T well because that's what Aggies Do. Also, there were a handful of us in the house. Respect to those who posted.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Dec 3, 2023 16:03:55 GMT -5
Three straight losses by the best team we have that competes in the CAA (Bowling is still in the MEAC).
A&T athletics are not in a good place right now.
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Post by bluehaze on Dec 3, 2023 16:27:17 GMT -5
Track & Field Indoor and Outdoor for the Men and Women were Top 4 Finishes last year.
Let’s see how Coach Johnson does this year with a full recruiting class after the defections when Coach Ross left.
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Post by DECKS on Dec 4, 2023 7:08:41 GMT -5
Three straight losses by the best team we have that competes in the CAA (Bowling is still in the MEAC). A&T athletics are not in a good place right now. This is kinda typical for Coach Rob. Usually a slow starter with one or two good performances. I still believe they will win CAA. |
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Post by VA's Finest on Dec 4, 2023 7:15:17 GMT -5
I believe WBB has a legit shot to win next 4 contest and sit at 7-4, schedule lightens a bit. Then everyone will be back on the train again. I like what I see from the Ladies, they play extremely hard, and value each possession, to the final horn. Looking forward to the next few months.
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Post by marchingband1969 on Dec 4, 2023 9:46:47 GMT -5
Hey, let's not get down on our Lady Aggies and Coach Rob. The season just got started. Folks, we're not a Power 5 program with all the talent, and resources they have, yet we can play competitively against a few of them. As we get into "our conference" this team will show you what talent, hard work and good coaching will give you. So, pay no attention to a lost in a money game out of conference. Coach Rob will have them ready come CAA tipoff.
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Post by planoaggie on Dec 4, 2023 11:02:40 GMT -5
You do pay attention to these OOC or P5/G5 games. Winning against them help you in seeding when it comes to the March Madness tournament. Additionally, these games help the team workout issues that may come up later in CAA play against tough opponents. Been through it done that mentality. These games give others in the CAA how tough a conference opponent may be to winn a championship. If you saw that a WBB CAA team took down 2-3 P5 school, would you still say those games mean nothing? No, you would probably say that the championship will go through them, but they have to earn it because no one is going to give it to them.
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Post by westcoastaggie on Dec 4, 2023 11:26:29 GMT -5
You do pay attention to these OOC or P5/G5 games. Winning against them help you in seeding when it comes to the March Madness tournament. Additionally, these games help the team workout issues that may come up later in CAA play against tough opponents. Been through it done that mentality. These games give others in the CAA how tough a conference opponent may be to winn a championship. If you saw that a WBB CAA team took down 2-3 P5 school, would you still say those games mean nothing? No, you would probably say that the championship will go through them, but they have to earn it because no one is going to give it to them. For us to ultimately get a decent seed (12 - 14 seed), we have to win finish top 2 in the CAA regular season and win the tournament. If we don't do that, we're doomed to see a Louisville-type team in the first round, or worse, get South Carolina. |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Dec 4, 2023 13:59:50 GMT -5
You do pay attention to these OOC or P5/G5 games. Winning against them help you in seeding when it comes to the March Madness tournament. Additionally, these games help the team workout issues that may come up later in CAA play against tough opponents. Been through it done that mentality. These games give others in the CAA how tough a conference opponent may be to winn a championship. If you saw that a WBB CAA team took down 2-3 P5 school, would you still say those games mean nothing? No, you would probably say that the championship will go through them, but they have to earn it because no one is going to give it to them. seedings are "meaningless" for lowmajor schools, absolutely "meaningless". i keep hearing folk proclaiming how important march madness "seedings" are as if it makes a difference with the outcome. 16 seed, 15 seed, 14 seed, don't really matter cuz the outcome will be the same... |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Dec 4, 2023 14:04:44 GMT -5
btw, i'm not worried about our lady aggies. it is very difficult to win games "on the road" against superior opponents (P5), much less top 20 ranked opponents like louisville. it is true that coach rob coached teams often get off to a slow start, but he usually brings them on strong when conference play starts against non-P5 opponents...
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Post by planoaggie on Dec 4, 2023 16:46:47 GMT -5
You do pay attention to these OOC or P5/G5 games. Winning against them help you in seeding when it comes to the March Madness tournament. Additionally, these games help the team workout issues that may come up later in CAA play against tough opponents. Been through it done that mentality. These games give others in the CAA how tough a conference opponent may be to winn a championship. If you saw that a WBB CAA team took down 2-3 P5 school, would you still say those games mean nothing? No, you would probably say that the championship will go through them, but they have to earn it because no one is going to give it to them. seedings are "meaningless" for lowmajor schools, absolutely "meaningless". i keep hearing folk proclaiming how important march madness "seedings" are as if it makes a difference with the outcome. 16 seed, 15 seed, 14 seed, don't really matter cuz the outcome will be the same... It does make a difference. You are correct that the overall percentage of the lower seeded team winning is much lower than the other seeds, but upsets have occurred on both the women and men sides. Statistics have shown atleast on the men's side that the 15th seed has more upsets than the 16th seed and the 14th seed more upsets than the 15th seeds and so forth. Therefore, a good correlation exist even if the outcome typically ends up in a lost. I rather be a 13th or 14th seeded team versus a 15th or 16th seeded team. Your odds of winning increases. |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Dec 4, 2023 19:52:13 GMT -5
seedings are "meaningless" for lowmajor schools, absolutely "meaningless". i keep hearing folk proclaiming how important march madness "seedings" are as if it makes a difference with the outcome. 16 seed, 15 seed, 14 seed, don't really matter cuz the outcome will be the same... It does make a difference. You are correct that the overall percentage of the lower seeded team winning is much lower than the other seeds, but upsets have occurred on both the women and men sides. Statistics have shown atleast on the men's side that the 15th seed has more upsets than the 16th seed and the 14th seed more upsets than the 15th seeds and so forth. Therefore, a good correlation exist even if the outcome typically ends up in a lost. I rather be a 13th or 14th seeded team versus a 15th or 16th seeded team. Your odds of winning increases. in the modern era of march madness (since '85) when the ncaa expanded march madness to 64 teams, there have been exactly "zero" hbcu's that have won a women's d1 march madness game and the one team that did win a game was a "16 seed" (howard in 2022) over another "16 seed" (uiw) but it was a "play-in game" known nowadays as the "first 4". prior to '85, cheyney (coached by the legendary vivian stringer) actually made it to the ncaa d1 women's "final 4" in 1982 as a "2 seed" but technically cheyney was still a "d2" school at the time. cheyney also made a deep run in '84 as a "3 seed", winning 3 games and making it to the regional finals. the only other hbcu women's team to win a march madness game was an unseeded scsu team in '83 over la salle. but these games were played prior to '85, known as the pre-modern era. so when you look at "history", there has been no benefit whatsoever to d1 women's hbcu basketball teams if seeded higher than 16th, they all " LOSS" in the first round. hbcu's are far better off as a 16 seed playing in the "first 4" where games are "winnable". that's how a&t's men won their "only" ncaa march madness game. so i'd much rather be seeded 16th where there's a good chance of actually "winning" a march madness game against a comparable opponent rather than a 15 or 14 or 13 seed that is essentially "guaranteed" to lose... |
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Post by planoaggie on Dec 4, 2023 20:08:39 GMT -5
Sorry, I was not looking at HBCU women's history since we now play in the CAA. If we are beating up these teams, I would hope the committee seeds us accordingly, especially if we upset some P5 teams. If we lose then we lose, but don't cheat us on our seeding. Competitiveness or strength of the conference fluctuates slightly. You still must play the game and that is all that matters, but don't take the opportunity away like FSU in football on some rigged system.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Dec 5, 2023 12:34:44 GMT -5
Sorry, I was not looking at HBCU women's history since we now play in the CAA. If we are beating up these teams, I would hope the committee seeds us accordingly, especially if we upset some P5 teams. If we lose then we lose, but don't cheat us on our seeding. Competitiveness or strength of the conference fluctuates slightly. You still must play the game and that is all that matters, but don't take the opportunity away like FSU in football on some rigged system. i rather experience "winning" in the march madness tournament. sure, we "occasionally" beat p5 teams, but "NONE" of the p5 teams we beat are "ranked". a 15, 14, or 13 seed is gonna play a "ranked" team in the first round. the best way "not" to play a ranked team during march madness is be seeded #1 or #2, or #16. we celebrated "big time" when our men's team beat liberty in a "first 4" play-in game and we got "national tv" exposure to boot. feels good to actually win a doggone march madness game, even if its a play-in game. i'll say it right now, there's less than a 1% chance (essentially "zero") of an hbcu advancing beyond the 2nd round of march madness. sometimes folk have to be "realistic" about their competitiveness, but i suppose its okay to "keep hope alive"... |
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