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Post by trues on Sept 20, 2023 3:19:43 GMT -5
I wonder how much of this talk would be going on if we were winning. Exactly its so easy to kick a man down when he is already down.
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Post by KidHeartless on Sept 20, 2023 5:32:17 GMT -5
Let em air their concerns out I say. Find out why they feel what they feel. And use it to make sure the coming generations are taken care of....within the rules of course.
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Post by saabman on Sept 20, 2023 6:30:37 GMT -5
Those funds are not connected to Athletics . Yes, that is common knowledge. But itās been mentioned in this debate about the lack of housing (even though we house more than the average university) and those funds support housing, infrastructure etc. And that $2.1 billion could make a lot of things happen for the Academic institution (our first mission) as a whole. That is why the funds are not hear marked for athletics.
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Post by aggieswag on Sept 20, 2023 6:32:21 GMT -5
They have right to be upset - itās their perspective. Those alumni are just like us .. except people keep calling them uninformed- when actually they are more informed on our athletic dept than anyone on the board. They lived it day in and day out. Also if you helped build something and sit and watch it get imploded to rubble you would feel some type of way to. Especially when the reasons cited were flat out false. - the move did not create extra cash, created less exposure by far, and we travel further away now than we did before - and it was not a move up- like McCain said .. itās still FCS outside the top 5 itās all about the same. I personally hate to hear things like āwe moved upā āwe came from a lesser conferenceā all that is hog wash. For people who want to feel superior over others but there is no truth to any of those statements. The MEAC Presidents are terrible - well letās see - FAMU became the 1st HBCU to enter the top 100 schools , Morgan state is about to reach R1 status , Deleware State purchased a pwi and is not far behind, NCCU is right there with them and is ranked right below us .. there were some that had some issues but the MEAC did not implode like or football program did when we moved. The only people that are having adverse effects on the move is us.. FAMU is good and so is the MEAC. Meanwhile we will probably go 0-11.. We made this bed now we have to lay in it.
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Post by DOOMS on Sept 20, 2023 6:41:50 GMT -5
We clearly moved to a more difficult conference. And I'm still wondering where all the talk about extra cash stems.
Outside of that imo swag is totally and completely on pernt. In all honesty we're the ones who are uninformed as far as the athletic department is concerned.
At some point the athletic department is going to have to do that difficult thing, man up, contact its alumni who bled and sweated for the program, and flat out explain the move wasn't about athletics. They ain't got to like it, but the school has hidden behind the explanation far too long.
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Post by westcoastaggie on Sept 20, 2023 6:53:19 GMT -5
It is true about the scholarship players having to pay for a lot of the housing. No one really gets a full ride. They have to pay cost difference if they don't want to stay in Cooper. IMHO, the school should increase the value of the room and board vouchers for athletes so they donāt need a loan to stay in any on-campus dorm or apartment. These are the little things that will help recruit athletes to compete in the CAA compared to the MEAC. Iām fairly confident that our new peers pay for any form of student housing and may even provide funding - via FCOA - to help pay for off-campus housing.
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Post by aggie2039 on Sept 20, 2023 6:54:40 GMT -5
The school already explained in town hall meetings and had a meeting with the Hall of Fame.
Regardless of how many meetings some will never accept it. The does not owe them anything more than what was already stated. Yes these guys played ball but doesnāt mean their feet have to be kissed and massaged. They got a degree, whether or not they majored in something that yields dividends is on them.
Either people support the university or they donāt not going to beg or explain to people that have a soda straw view of the world.
Mac has no idea what he is talking about, he is using emotion vs logic. Him saying the CAA isnāt a step up in competition is blatantly a lie and a statement made by the uninformed. Campbell bust NCCU head to the white meat last year. The HBCU national champion. Richmond kicked our chest in with a true freshman QBā¦Morgan just lost to Towson, Howard just lost to Hampton again.
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Post by westcoastaggie on Sept 20, 2023 6:54:47 GMT -5
Let em air their concerns out I say. Find out why they feel what they feel. And use it to make sure the coming generations are taken care of....within the rules of course. EXACTLY, especially if the AD, Chancellor, and BOT have FBS aspirations. They also need to speed up the timeline for upgrades -within reason - and get more aggressive in fundraising.
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Post by westcoastaggie on Sept 20, 2023 6:55:50 GMT -5
The school already explained in town hall meetings and had a meeting with the Hall of Fame. Regardless of how many meetings some will never accept it. The does not owe them anything more than what was already stated. Yes these guys played ball but doesnāt mean their feet have to be kissed and massaged. They got a degree, whether or not they majored in something that yields dividends is on them. No. However, the school will need them to donate money just as all other alumni. Coach Brown is facilitating this relationship.
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Post by aggie2039 on Sept 20, 2023 6:57:33 GMT -5
The school already explained in town hall meetings and had a meeting with the Hall of Fame. Regardless of how many meetings some will never accept it. The does not owe them anything more than what was already stated. Yes these guys played ball but doesnāt mean their feet have to be kissed and massaged. They got a degree, whether or not they majored in something that yields dividends is on them. No. However, the school will need them to donate money just as all other alumni. Coach Brown is facilitating this relationship. The biggest donors to the program arenāt athletes.
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Post by aggie2039 on Sept 20, 2023 7:03:31 GMT -5
Furthermore, that same undisciplined crew got their tail kicked for two seasons in the BSC.
2 years in a row, the BSC conf 3rd place team beat the HBCU National championšš
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Post by A&T AGGIE 96 on Sept 20, 2023 7:50:18 GMT -5
Let em air their concerns out I say. Find out why they feel what they feel. And use it to make sure the coming generations are taken care of....within the rules of course. I have no problems with anyone voicing concerns. We do that all the time on this board. My issue is with the misinformation. As former athletes, I would think they would make it a point to be in the know about changes in athletics. These guys are saying stuff that any halfway informed person would know is wrong...make you wonder where they get this stuff from....oh, off the internet.
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Post by aggieswag on Sept 20, 2023 7:55:42 GMT -5
I hate to break it to you .. but the only move up is to FBS. The CAA has tougher competition but itās not a move up. Yes Richmond kicked us in the chest but the whole reason we were playing them is because just a week prior NCCU beat us worse and was a better team than Richmond.
I have tried to follow the reasons why we moved conferences. If it wasnāt for money, if it wasnāt for better exposure, if it wasnāt for travel distance, if it wasnāt for the R1 status or academics then what was it for?? Someone please enlighten me. I must have missed the real memo.
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Post by westcoastaggie on Sept 20, 2023 8:28:22 GMT -5
No. However, the school will need them to donate money just as all other alumni. Coach Brown is facilitating this relationship. The biggest donors to the program arenāt athletes. Be that as it may, they still want former athletes giving back.
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Post by westcoastaggie on Sept 20, 2023 8:29:07 GMT -5
I hate to break it to you .. but the only move up is to FBS. The CAA has tougher competition but itās not a move up. Yes Richmond kicked us in the chest but the whole reason we were playing them is because just a week prior NCCU beat us worse and was a better team than Richmond. I have tried to follow the reasons why we moved conferences. If it wasnāt for money, if it wasnāt for better exposure, if it wasnāt for travel distance, if it wasnāt for the R1 status or academics then what was it for?? Someone please enlighten me. I must have missed the real memo. They didnāt want to be in the MEAC anymore.
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