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Post by aggiegrad97 on Jun 19, 2023 14:23:21 GMT -5
don't think i've ever seen a new aggie mbb head coach come in and "completely" clean house like coach ross has. maybe the existence of the transfer portal had a lot to do with that, but i don't recall that ever happening since i've been an aggie. i'm quite sure that we've had some turnover whenever we hired a new head coach in the past, but i don't recall a new coach rebuilding an "entire roster" from scratch. i mean, "everything" is new. all new players, all new coaches, and a brand new system/philosophy. just about every early season we go thru "growing pains" to incorporate new players even though our entire roster did not turnover. yet, we still had to learn the new players (and vice versa) in order to form a new team identity. well, this season we will have "growing pains" on steroids cuz none of our new roster have played together as a team before and none of them have ever played under coach ross's system before. clearly coach ross must take total "ownership" of this year's roster cuz just about all of our expected returning players won't be returning. i like that the new roster has a "defensive foundation", so i expect to see a pretty doggone good defensive team. but i think we're awfully "young and inexperienced", it'll take a while for this team to win more games than they lose... It’s more common place in the transfer portal era where you can get rid of & rebuild all in the same month, so it didn’t exist before for any program even outside of A&T. It’s pretty cemented in college fb & basketball that if a new coach comes in, a lot of the players are gonna be finding a new home too |
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Post by planoaggie on Jun 19, 2023 16:31:43 GMT -5
We lost 14 out of 17 players amounting to a little over 82%. I have never seen this happen in any sport at any school unless there was something major that occurred (like the SMU death penalty, physical or mental misconduct). This is not normal even during the transfer portal era. We got a lot of work to do.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jun 19, 2023 16:43:53 GMT -5
don't think i've ever seen a new aggie mbb head coach come in and "completely" clean house like coach ross has. maybe the existence of the transfer portal had a lot to do with that, I think that's it. This is a new age. |
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jun 19, 2023 16:45:20 GMT -5
Aggieblackie did say that we didn't have many D1 players on the roster. Maybe Coach Ross agrees.
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Post by aggieman70 on Jun 19, 2023 16:54:04 GMT -5
We lost 14 out of 17 players amounting to a little over 82%. I have never seen this happen in any sport unless there was something major that occurred. This is not normal even during the transfer portal era. We got a lot of work to do. Didn’t we loose a ton of WBB players when Coach Bibbs replaced Coach Roundtree? |
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Post by planoaggie on Jun 19, 2023 22:40:29 GMT -5
We lost 14 out of 17 players amounting to a little over 82%. I have never seen this happen in any sport at any school unless there was something major that occurred (like the SMU death penalty, physical or mental misconduct). This is not normal even during the transfer portal era. We got a lot of work to do. Can we name a time or school that a team lost 82 out 100 football players after one season. Jackson State lost 24 players to the portal after Deion left. Look at loss from other football schools. This is not common or normal (11 to 12 scholarships to offer in 1 season out of a total of 13) and it can't be blamed solely on the tranfer portal. We failed to address these situations (search/hiring of a head coach, communication,loss of players) appropriately and in a timely manner, but hopefully we have the right person in place to right the ship, albeit rather slowly. If an A&T WBB team suffered a loss of players at that magnitude, there had to be a major problem with the program (players, coaches, administrators, etc). UNC WBB program had some time of team misconduct going on to where Coach Sylvia Hatchel (top coach nationally) was fired. Only 4 players transferred after that season. |
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Post by planoaggie on Jun 20, 2023 0:07:15 GMT -5
We lost 14 out of 17 players amounting to a little over 82%. I have never seen this happen in any sport unless there was something major that occurred (like the SMU death penalty, physical or mental misconduct). This is not normal even during the transfer portal era. We got a lot of work to do. Didn’t we loose a ton of WBB players when Coach Bibbs replaced Coach Roundtree? Good memory. The 2004-05 WBB team lost 9 out of 13 players (69%). That was a high level of lost. 7 Freshmen were added to the team the following season. The 4 returning players were lead contributors in 2004-05. Still, not a loss of 82% and if Robinson does not return then we are talking about 88% loss (15 our of 17). Note: Corrected the year to 2004-05 and not 2003-04 as stated in my original post. |
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Post by DECKS on Jun 20, 2023 0:55:41 GMT -5
Didn’t we loose a ton of WBB players when Coach Bibbs replaced Coach Roundtree? Good memory. The 2003-04 WBB team lost 9 out of 13 players (69%). 7 Freshmen were added to the team the following season. The 4 returning players were lead contributors in 2003-04. Still, not a loss of 82% and if Robinson does not return then we are talking about 88% loss. I think this is a high risk approach. Very likely we'll be picked to finish last in the CAA. |
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Post by planoaggie on Jun 20, 2023 4:59:47 GMT -5
Good memory. The 2004-05 WBB team lost 9 out of 13 players (69%). That was a high level of lost. 7 Freshmen were added to the team the following season. The 4 returning players were lead contributors in 2004-05. Still, not a loss of 82% and if Robinson does not return then we are talking about 88% loss (15 our of 17). I think this is a high risk approach. Very likely we'll be picked to finish last in the CAA. I hesitate to call the loss of players an approach because it makes it sound like this was a planned or intentional move by Coach Ross or A&T. Some of the players graduated while others left before Ross was hired as the new head coach, but a few players (Dukes, Morrice, Johnson, and Elliott) did leave on his watch. I understand what you meant (loosing so many players at once makes it a high risk or unlikely that the team will be successful next season), but some will take it as you blaming Ross for all of these players lost. Coach Bibbs WBB team went 9-19 in 2005-06 after suffering so many player loss. It has been awhile now since we read those earlier posts that mentioned "it should not be difficult to find 5 to 7 new talented players, therefore I am okay with certain players leaving." Well it snowballed into us needing to replace more than 10 players. I was not a fan of us losing so many players. This is too much change for a new coach to overcome right away and be successful. Note: Corrected the year to 2004-05 and not 2003-04 as stated in my original post. |
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Post by saabman on Jun 20, 2023 10:27:08 GMT -5
We lost 14 out of 17 players amounting to a little over 82%. I have never seen this happen in any sport at any school unless there was something major that occurred (like the SMU death penalty, physical or mental misconduct). This is not normal even during the transfer portal era. We got a lot of work to do. LSU basketball team not to long ago . fansided.com/2022/04/02/lsu-basketball-transfer-portal/ |
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Post by saabman on Jun 20, 2023 10:52:33 GMT -5
Good memory. The 2003-04 WBB team lost 9 out of 13 players (69%). 7 Freshmen were added to the team the following season. The 4 returning players were lead contributors in 2003-04. Still, not a loss of 82% and if Robinson does not return then we are talking about 88% loss. I think this is a high risk approach. Very likely we'll be picked to finish last in the CAA. As we should be , New Coach ,rebuilding team last would be the right call . But we don't have to stay or finish their. |
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Post by A&T AGGIE 96 on Jun 20, 2023 11:04:47 GMT -5
I think this is a high risk approach. Very likely we'll be picked to finish last in the CAA. As we should be , New Coach ,rebuilding team last would be the right call . But we don't have to stay or finish their. ^^^what he said^^^ Our teams were picked to finish close to last in all sports as I recall this year in the CAA. How the team develops and finishes the season is what matters in the end. |
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Post by planoaggie on Jun 20, 2023 11:21:53 GMT -5
We lost 14 out of 17 players amounting to a little over 82%. I have never seen this happen in any sport at any school unless there was something major that occurred (like the SMU death penalty, physical or mental misconduct). This is not normal even during the transfer portal era. We got a lot of work to do. LSU basketball team not to long ago . fansided.com/2022/04/02/lsu-basketball-transfer-portal/Yes, I vaguely remember this happening and the article commented on how rare it is to lose basically your "entire team". They went from 22-12 to 14-19 (2-16 conf) in year 2022-23 with 8 transfers, 5 Freshmen, and some older walk-ons. Our team current makeup is quite different. |
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Post by planoaggie on Jun 21, 2023 9:58:55 GMT -5
I still do not see Tyrese Elliott's name in the transfer portal. Plenty of time has elapsed to where his name should have appeared by now. I suspect that he missed the transfer portal deadline of May 11th to officially enter the transfer portal and is using social media to get his name out there to the coaches that he is available to recruit. Whatever the reason for his name now showing in the transfer portal, we can conclude from his post that he is no longer part of A&T MBB team.
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Post by aggiegrad97 on Jun 21, 2023 11:30:10 GMT -5
I still do not see Tyrese Elliott's name in the transfer portal. Plenty of time has elapsed to where his name should have appeared by now. I suspect that he missed the transfer portal deadline of May 11th to officially enter the transfer portal and is using social media to get his name out there to the coaches that he is available to recruit. Whatever the reason for his name now showing in the transfer portal, we can conclude from his post that he is no longer part of A&T MBB team. He deleted the Instagram post |
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