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Post by saabman on Sept 5, 2023 15:30:16 GMT -5
Has anyone ever thought that this might be an attraction tool for the outstanding D3 or non-scholarship program athletes to attend and play division one football and still maintain the academic scholarship.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Sept 5, 2023 16:31:25 GMT -5
You are making the same argument that others used to support that it should not be difficult to find sufficient walk-ons to meet the 3.4 GPA, yet it is now lowered. A&T may set their on walk-on GPA requirement, but it does not change the fact that it is on the high side compared to many schools that play football. If it is further lowered in the Spring, then we will have our answer that it is still too high even for A&T's standard. We will eventually find a balance under Coach Brown's regime. Who knows, he may eventually remove this requirement all together like a lot of schools in the future. Right now his contract is probably tied to some kind of GPA promise. Not GPA but APR. The team can’t suffer any single year or multi-year penalties or else, he can be let go without a buyout. gpa is unrelated to apr except "pass or fail". whereas, an athlete who has a 4.0 gpa is looked upon no differently than an athlete who has a 2.7 gpa. if you apply the same 3.0 gpa or higher standard to the general student body, we'd see a "massive" reduction in undergrads at a&t...
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Post by DOOMS on Sept 5, 2023 17:37:24 GMT -5
I doubt it. Standards have risen dramatically in only the past six years or so.
I doubt they pulled the 3.0 out of their a$$. That being said, the whole topic is incredibly foolish imo and has already been proven so.
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Post by saabman on Sept 5, 2023 17:48:50 GMT -5
Non-scholarship players/Walk-on's GPA is not counted when calculating the APR so why is this even a conversation about the GPA of Walk-on's.
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Sept 5, 2023 17:58:49 GMT -5
I doubt it. Standards have risen dramatically in only the past six years or so. I doubt they pulled the 3.0 out of their a$$. That being said, the whole topic is incredibly foolish imo and has already been proven so. Good point. Can anyone believe eight pages devoted to this topic. Blame it on the heat.
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Post by planoaggie on Sept 5, 2023 22:32:50 GMT -5
Coach Brown and/or the Administration made GPA an issue. They could have not even made GPA a requirement for tryouts like lots of high academic colleges. Students that were admitted to A&T last year had an average GPA of 3.8 and we are concerned about the GPA of walk-ons. How did these walk-ons even get admitted into such a high academic institution if their GPAs were poor (joking)?
I suspect that the football team's GPA is at or below the 3.0 level or not enough interest was generated last Spring which is why Coach Brown was comfortable in lowering the walk-on tryout GPA from 3.4 to 3.0. Some on here are unaware that the head coach can ask the Admission Office to waive the standard minimum admission at A&T for scholarship athletes (must satisfy NCAA eligibility requirements which is much lower). Therefore the average student body admission GPA maybe quite different compared to that of any average school team GPA. People constantly interchange the two as though they are the same. Schools with great student-athlete tutoring programs in place have fewer problems with keeping up or exceeding the average GPA of the student body.
In my opinion if coach did not want this debated in the public, then don't list this as a requirement. Just go about your normal business of finding your diamonds in the rough amongst the walk-ons while evaluating if their GPA is acceptable outside the public's eye. The end. Lot less scrutiny by all (me included).
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 6, 2023 6:37:46 GMT -5
That being said, the whole topic is incredibly foolish imo and has already been proven so. This is what makes me wonder if Coach Brown fully understands the magnitude of the week and this rivalry. If they didn't realize that the timing of such an announcement could spark unintentional commentary, they should have. If this meeting was scheduled a week earlier or a week later (and the page font wasn't so big), no one would have likely batted an eye.
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Post by thewinner on Sept 6, 2023 6:57:32 GMT -5
I don't think he understands the magnitude either. Im going to stay quiet..... For now....
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Post by Bornthrilla on Dec 18, 2023 19:47:26 GMT -5
I predict that this requirement will be sub 3.0 this upcoming spring.
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Post by DOOMS on Dec 18, 2023 19:51:10 GMT -5
You got money on that?
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Post by Bornthrilla on Dec 18, 2023 19:55:59 GMT -5
No, but something tells me 2.8 will probably be the sweet spot.
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Post by DOOMS on Dec 18, 2023 20:45:54 GMT -5
I'm thinking 3.2.
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Post by saabman on Dec 18, 2023 22:19:02 GMT -5
3.0 for me .
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Post by A&T-roy on Dec 18, 2023 22:55:15 GMT -5
I think the last one Coach said will stay the same (3.0). Why have walk-ons that don't help with your GPA.
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Post by Trueaggie on Dec 19, 2023 0:25:56 GMT -5
Has anyone ever thought that this might be an attraction tool for the outstanding D3 or non-scholarship program athletes to attend and play division one football and still maintain the academic scholarship. No not at all.
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