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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 4, 2023 20:15:24 GMT -5
That's still kinda high in my opinion.
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Post by Maxell on Sept 4, 2023 21:49:10 GMT -5
That's still kinda high in my opinion. FYI, Colorado had to lower their GPA standards in order to get those transfers down to the NCAA minimum which is a 2.3 GPA. The alumni were raising hell out here(until 2 days ago) LOL
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Post by planoaggie on Sept 4, 2023 22:17:27 GMT -5
That's still kinda high in my opinion. Yes, I agree that this is still high based on my past research on this topic earlier this year, but this is probably the best Coach Brown can do in negotiation with our Administration currently. I don't know this for sure, but suspect he could not change it himself without Administration approval.
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Post by westcoastaggie on Sept 4, 2023 22:28:27 GMT -5
FCS limit is 63 ,FBS is 85 . I heard Broadway say at one time that his formula was 40 full scholarships and the remaining 23 split in half for a total of 86 scholarships . One other fact. FBS is limited to 85 full scholarships with a max of 25 incoming scholarships per year while FCS is limited to 63 equivalent scholarships with a max of 30 incoming equivalent scholarships per year. I did not know about the incoming discrepancy. See below link. www.hachiesports.org/crunching-numbers#:~:text=Scholarship%20Count%3A%20FCS%20schools%20have,can%20be%20put%20on%20scholarship. Note: According to the article, the FCS can only have 85 total players on scholarships (full + partial) at one time. There is our answer. If the coach hits his 85 scholarships every year and he carries ~100 players a year, then there are ~15 walk-ons on the team at any time. Spread out over 4 years, the coach adds ~4 walk-ons per year. Out of ~100 players, you can't boost the team GPA up that much with 4 new walk-ons. Mathematics and the NCAA rules make it impractical or unlikely. Yes. FCS is 63 scholarship equivalents over 85 players. 86 to the 120 max are considered walk-ons, PWO, tryout, practice dummy, whatever. Plus, IIRC, only the 85 scholarship players count towards APR. If I remember correctly, Coach Broadway had specific players on the team that were academic scholarship kids. This seems to be a continuation of that situation especially since APR penalties return in 2024!
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Post by westcoastaggie on Sept 4, 2023 22:32:21 GMT -5
As I understand it, Curtis Deloatch wasn’t even interested in playing football when he came to T. The defensive coordinator searched him out on campus and asked him to come out. I commented a couple wasted pages ago on how the requirement is bound to be relaxed in cases like that 😂 I’m pretty sure Miles was an engineering major and I’m thinking he was at T on an academic scholarship. If so, we can safely assume he was over 3.4. He was an engineering major and not to call my brother out but he wouldn't of made the team with that requirement. Wallace had a PWO to be a kicker. Hell I was an engineering major and a scholar athlete 4 times, had one of the highest GPAs on the team and I wouldn't of made it at 3.4. Julian Alford, an engineering major/WR had one of the high gpas on the team along with our full back trey and a few others. This a move to raise the teams GPA.. 3.4 IS HIGH !!! Have we seen the weighted GPAs of kids enrolling in A&T nowadays? This isn't our A&T. it's a new day in Aggieland and these incoming freshman, especially out of state kids, are coming in with 4.0+ GPAs and 1200+ on the SAT. It's not out the realm of possibility that freshmen enrolling, especially Honors kids, can't carry a 3.0. Not to mention, during his presser today, Coach Brown mentioned a 3.0 GPA requirement to walk on, seemingly lowering it from the 3.4 back in the spring.
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Post by planoaggie on Sept 4, 2023 23:23:28 GMT -5
He was an engineering major and not to call my brother out but he wouldn't of made the team with that requirement. Wallace had a PWO to be a kicker. Hell I was an engineering major and a scholar athlete 4 times, had one of the highest GPAs on the team and I wouldn't of made it at 3.4. Julian Alford, an engineering major/WR had one of the high gpas on the team along with our full back trey and a few others. This a move to raise the teams GPA.. 3.4 IS HIGH !!! Have we seen the weighted GPAs of kids enrolling in A&T nowadays? This isn't our A&T. it's a new day in Aggieland and these incoming freshman, especially out of state kids, are coming in with 4.0+ GPAs and 1200+ on the SAT. It's not out the realm of possibility that freshmen enrolling, especially Honors kids, can't carry a 3.0. Not to mention, during his presser today, Coach Brown mentioned a 3.0 GPA requirement to walk on, seemingly lowering it from the 3.4 back in the spring. You are making the same argument that others used to support that it should not be difficult to find sufficient walk-ons to meet the 3.4 GPA, yet it is now lowered. A&T may set their own walk-on GPA requirement, but it does not change the fact that it is on the high side compared to many schools that play football. If it is further lowered in the Spring, then we will have our answer that it is still too high even for A&T's standard. We will eventually find a balance under Coach Brown's regime. Who knows, he may eventually remove this requirement all together like a lot of schools in the future. Right now his contract is probably tied to some kind of GPA promise.
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Post by westcoastaggie on Sept 5, 2023 6:09:11 GMT -5
Have we seen the weighted GPAs of kids enrolling in A&T nowadays? This isn't our A&T. it's a new day in Aggieland and these incoming freshman, especially out of state kids, are coming in with 4.0+ GPAs and 1200+ on the SAT. It's not out the realm of possibility that freshmen enrolling, especially Honors kids, can't carry a 3.0. Not to mention, during his presser today, Coach Brown mentioned a 3.0 GPA requirement to walk on, seemingly lowering it from the 3.4 back in the spring. You are making the same argument that others used to support that it should not be difficult to find sufficient walk-ons to meet the 3.4 GPA, yet it is now lowered. A&T may set their on walk-on GPA requirement, but it does not change the fact that it is on the high side compared to many schools that play football. If it is further lowered in the Spring, then we will have our answer that it is still too high even for A&T's standard. We will eventually find a balance under Coach Brown's regime. Who knows, he may eventually remove this requirement all together like a lot of schools in the future. Right now his contract is probably tied to some kind of GPA promise. Not GPA but APR. The team can’t suffer any single year or multi-year penalties or else, he can be let go without a buyout.
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Post by Maxell on Sept 5, 2023 10:36:08 GMT -5
Isn't APR only tracking scholarship players?
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Post by AggieMac on Sept 5, 2023 10:41:49 GMT -5
Coach Brown said it himself this week that walk-ons should be an added benefit to the teams overall GPA point blank. That's it. He stated that maybe 2-3 players could potentially help the team down the road in some capacity, either on scout team or in the kicking game, so that should tell everyone that this is only for supplement, not need...
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Post by planoaggie on Sept 5, 2023 11:20:37 GMT -5
You are making the same argument that others used to support that it should not be difficult to find sufficient walk-ons to meet the 3.4 GPA, yet it is now lowered. A&T may set their own walk-on GPA requirement, but it does not change the fact that it is on the high side compared to many schools that play football. If it is further lowered in the Spring, then we will have our answer that it is still too high even for A&T's standard. We will eventually find a balance under Coach Brown's regime. Who knows, he may eventually remove this requirement all together like a lot of schools in the future. Right now his contract is probably tied to some kind of GPA promise. Not GPA but APR. The team can’t suffer any single year or multi-year penalties or else, he can be let go without a buyout. I only focused on GPA because that is the term Coach Brown refers to in his ads or speeches as a requirement for players. You are taking his communicated word (GPA) and applying it towards APR because you know the negative impact it can have on the program. Any interest player is looking at GPA. As to which word is used in his contract that I don’t know and apologize if I misspoke, but in sticking with the forum topic the walk-on GPA requirement has been lowered from 3.4 to 3.0.
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Post by planoaggie on Sept 5, 2023 11:23:08 GMT -5
Isn't APR only tracking scholarship players? Good question. I don't know.
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Post by DOOMS on Sept 5, 2023 11:23:45 GMT -5
If one is forced to guess (and we're forced to guess) the GPA requirement might've led to lower walk-on numbers than expected and/or needed, and therefore they lowered the GPA requirement in hopes of additional numbers.
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Post by planoaggie on Sept 5, 2023 11:51:51 GMT -5
Coach Brown said it himself this week that walk-ons should be an added benefit to the teams overall GPA point blank. That's it. He stated that maybe 2-3 players could potentially help the team down the road in some capacity, either on scout team or in the kicking game, so that should tell everyone that this is only for supplement, not need... Coach Brown reset the walk-on requirements to find a few players he felt may help the team this season or possibly in the future. Within those requirements was that a player must have a minimum GPA of 3.0. No posts within the last 24 hours mentioned team positional needs as though that was a current problem. People are just lending their "opinions" as to whether a 3.0 GPA is still too high for walk-on tryouts. Make no mistake, Coach Brown remains in charge of that decision.
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Post by planoaggie on Sept 5, 2023 12:12:47 GMT -5
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Post by DOOMS on Sept 5, 2023 14:08:17 GMT -5
One word.
ELITE
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