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Post by aggie2039 on Apr 24, 2023 18:47:03 GMT -5
So 2039, you do know that when some kids come to college, they have never been to a formal banquet and have no idea what a salad fork is. Or that when some kids come to college, they have never been to a press conference or been the subject of a press conference. So it’s your position that the school shouldn’t be required to educate them on that and should instead let them, as a representative of the school figure it out themselves if they haven’t learned it from the community by the time they get to A&T? How in the world does that comport with A&T’s mission statement? Just asking. I don’t believe it’s a college responsibility, professors are there to teach and prep them for corporate America. Community service organizations are responsible to teach kids those skills.
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Post by A&T AGGIE 96 on Apr 24, 2023 18:49:12 GMT -5
Yep, we bored…LOL !!!
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Post by aggiechamp on Apr 24, 2023 19:00:20 GMT -5
I give up! You win!
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Post by DOOMS on Apr 24, 2023 21:19:30 GMT -5
i don't know that coach broadway didn't sign dudes who use slang. but i do know that everybody he signed was not a "choir boy". we've had guys who he signed during his era who were "dismissed" for reasons consistent with "street life" such as allegedly selling drugs or allegedly possessing fire arms. so let's not pretend coach broadway had an all "choir boy" roster. he too took chances on dudes who were not your every day "boy scout"... It appears you misunderstood me. My point is Coach Broadway would not deal with a kid who said “yeah man, you know what I’m sayin’” in initial conversation with him as opposed to “yes coach” or “yes sir.” Whether or not his players were “choir boys” is of no moment whatsoever and not germane to my point. Most every inner city kid I know around here is already taught two things in Pop Warner from age six: be tough and respect your elders. For all the posturing taking place on both sides of this subject I don’t think anybody can deny that youth sports, especially in our communities, are largely set up to instill morals, ethics, discipline, and a healthy dose of common sense in our youth. To repeat myself, give recruits credit. Give our communities credit while you’re at it my friends. If a division I coach is going to contact a recruit somebody is going to prep them. Even if their grammar sucks they’ll be respectful of the coach and his position. They are not going to start the relationship with “yeah man, you know what I’m sayin’.” If they do it’s because they have already chosen to be disrespectful or have not prepared in the least for what may be some of the most important conversations of their young lives, not because of any habitual use of slang. If you’re dealing with a person who has chosen to disrespect your position upon initial contact, good riddance. If you’re dealing with a kid whose coaches, teachers, parents, whoever failed him by not properly preparing him to have an adult-level conversation that could get him free college tuition, let his a$$ go to that dung pile up 85. I’m all for Coach Brown holding everyone to an ELITE standard from the time they hit the door.
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Post by DOOMS on Apr 24, 2023 21:22:19 GMT -5
There appear to be side arguments about Ayantee’s place in educating students.
I don’t know if y’all have seen the stats on the past few incoming classes, but I can tell you I would have NEVER gotten into T. This is not yo mama’s Ayantee we’re talking about. We’re not in the business of remedial education.
Coach Brown appears to understand that.
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Post by A&T-roy on Apr 24, 2023 22:22:05 GMT -5
There appear to be side arguments about Ayantee’s place in educating students. I don’t know if y’all have seen the stats on the past few incoming classes, but I can tell you I would have NEVER gotten into T. This is not yo mama’s Ayantee we’re talking about. We’re not in the business of remedial education. Coach Brown appears to understand that. We still do remedial, but probably not needed as much.
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Post by saabman on Apr 25, 2023 0:18:14 GMT -5
i don't know that coach broadway didn't sign dudes who use slang. but i do know that everybody he signed was not a "choir boy". we've had guys who he signed during his era who were "dismissed" for reasons consistent with "street life" such as allegedly selling drugs or allegedly possessing fire arms. so let's not pretend coach broadway had an all "choir boy" roster. he too took chances on dudes who were not your every day "boy scout"... It appears you misunderstood me. My point is Coach Broadway would not deal with a kid who said “yeah man, you know what I’m sayin’” in initial conversation with him as opposed to “yes coach” or “yes sir.” Whether or not his players were “choir boys” is of no moment whatsoever and not germane to my point. Most every inner city kid I know around here is already taught two things in Pop Warner from age six: be tough and respect your elders. For all the posturing taking place on both sides of this subject I don’t think anybody can deny that youth sports, especially in our communities, are largely set up to instill morals, ethics, discipline, and a healthy dose of common sense in our youth. To repeat myself, give recruits credit. Give our communities credit while you’re at it my friends. If a division I coach is going to contact a recruit somebody is going to prep them. Even if their grammar sucks they’ll be respectful of the coach and his position. They are not going to start the relationship with “yeah man, you know what I’m sayin’.” If they do it’s because they have already chosen to be disrespectful or have not prepared in the least for what may be some of the most important conversations of their young lives, not because of any habitual use of slang. If you’re dealing with a person who has chosen to disrespect your position upon initial contact, good riddance. If you’re dealing with a kid whose coaches, teachers, parents, whoever failed him by not properly preparing him to have an adult-level conversation that could get him free college tuition, let his a$$ go to that dung pile up 85. I’m all for Coach Brown holding everyone to an ELITE standard from the time they hit the door. I agree 100% with all you have stated Cuzo. But there is a little more to it ,because of the complex nature of the recruiting process. That is why good programs have exceptional recruiting staff ,that understand what the program is looking for in there athletes and is not afraid to explain those values and conditions to the athletes and there families when visiting and even beforehand to the athletes HS coaching staff when doing his research on the prospects. All of these situations should be addressed doing the recruitment process before the HC even has a in person conversation with the Prospect . That is one of the reasons behind invited player campus recruiting visits. It not only benefits the prospects but it give the coaching staff a chance to survey and assess the athletes shortcomings..i.e verbal,social and mannerisms when interacting with staff and others. Most of these kids do their research also . Do not think that they have not researched Coach Brown or even got ahold of some of the comments on this board 😂 And must have been prepped for it by their coaches or mentors . Having done this first hand and from experience. I can tell you that the preparation of these young men/women is being done but it is all on the prospects to close the deal or not . And then it is the HC'S responsibility to except the athlete or not it's that simple.
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Post by saabman on Apr 25, 2023 0:51:27 GMT -5
There appear to be side arguments about Ayantee’s place in educating students. I don’t know if y’all have seen the stats on the past few incoming classes, but I can tell you I would have NEVER gotten into T. This is not yo mama’s Ayantee we’re talking about. We’re not in the business of remedial education. Coach Brown appears to understand that. Are we still talking about the use of verbal conversation or academics ? Manners and Conversation can be corrected..i.e speech classes and proper corrections. When I think of remedial education at this level I think of academics. The two should not be confused in this conversation.
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Apr 25, 2023 3:39:31 GMT -5
There appear to be side arguments about Ayantee’s place in educating students. I don’t know if y’all have seen the stats on the past few incoming classes, but I can tell you I would have NEVER gotten into T. This is not yo mama’s Ayantee we’re talking about. We’re not in the business of remedial education. Coach Brown appears to understand that. Are we still talking about the use of verbal conversation or academics ? Manners and Conversation can be corrected..i.e speech classes and proper corrections. When I think of remedial education at this level I think of academics. The two should not be confused in this conversation. A&T is not an institution that does remediation.
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Post by The Professor on Apr 25, 2023 6:52:07 GMT -5
There appear to be side arguments about Ayantee’s place in educating students. I don’t know if y’all have seen the stats on the past few incoming classes, but I can tell you I would have NEVER gotten into T. This is not yo mama’s Ayantee we’re talking about. We’re not in the business of remedial education. Coach Brown appears to understand that. Thanks for reminding them.
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Post by DOOMS on Apr 25, 2023 7:33:47 GMT -5
Most of these kids do their research also . Do not think that they have not researched Coach Brown or even got ahold of some of the comments on this board 😂 And must have been prepped for it by their coaches or mentors . Cuz, see... You straight beat me to it. I woke up this morning and had realized sometime over my sleep that the man put out a tweet telling recruits what not to do when they address him. At that point it's not even a matter of them using slang or whatever, it's a matter of I already done told you how to and how not to talk to me or our staff during our initial conversations. Coach Brown is really showing he's all about total person development from the day a person is even recruited. This should be a fun ride.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Apr 25, 2023 7:47:26 GMT -5
Most of these kids do their research also . Do not think that they have not researched Coach Brown or even got ahold of some of the comments on this board 😂 And must have been prepped for it by their coaches or mentors . Cuz, see... You straight beat me to it. I woke up this morning and had realized sometime over my sleep that the man put out a tweet telling recruits what not to do when they address him. At that point it's not even a matter of them using slang or whatever, it's a matter of I already done told you how to and how not to talk to me or our staff during our initial conversations. Coach Brown is really showing he's all about total person development from the day a person is even recruited. This should be a fun ride. This....he got yall talking and its a public tweet. The recruits have been warned. "Show some respect"
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Post by The Professor on Apr 25, 2023 8:51:31 GMT -5
It's weird to see these comments about a coach setting a standard of what he wants and people question him for it.
And the same people screamed and hollered the past season about A&T football not being disciplined.
Ya'll do realize that discipline doesn't start in Aug right......
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Post by saabman on Apr 25, 2023 9:47:00 GMT -5
Are we still talking about the use of verbal conversation or academics ? Manners and Conversation can be corrected..i.e speech classes and proper corrections. When I think of remedial education at this level I think of academics. The two should not be confused in this conversation. A&T is not an institution that does remediation. Don't read into my post , Read it . Never said they did and if Tee did it has nothing to do with and athletes mannerisms and verbal articulations when addressing others .
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Post by aggie94 on Apr 25, 2023 12:11:10 GMT -5
Ya'll do realize that discipline doesn't start in Aug right...... THAT PART!!!!
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