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Post by blessedaggie84 on Sept 12, 2023 9:18:38 GMT -5
Aggieswag,
Can you explain now the gamezone has stifled growth and attendance? What data can you share so that we (I) can understand? Also what is SC State beating us in and what is the difference between their gamezone and ours?
I agree we need to work on more of the culture for A&T, the game is still a major social place and not at the moment a rabid fanbase from students to alums that are 100% committed to the actual game.
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Post by aggie2039 on Sept 12, 2023 9:26:33 GMT -5
We just had someone shot on campus that was not a student and we are having this conversation....
The GameZone is another layer of protection that keeps attendees safe and allows freedom of movement.
Last thing we need is more people unaffiliated with the school running around confined spaces with guns.
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Post by aggieswag on Sept 12, 2023 10:07:34 GMT -5
We just had someone shot on campus that was not a student and we are having this conversation.... The GameZone is another layer of protection that keeps attendees safe and allows freedom of movement. Last thing we need is more people unaffiliated with the school running around confined spaces with guns. We have always had incidents on campus and we will always have incidents on campus like everyone else. 99.8% of football programs manage to go week in and week out w no incidents this includes HBCUS and not have a gamezone. And does anyone believe that the coverage would be less because someone was shot on laurel st vs inside the cage. No one believes that . I hear your point but where the person got shot on campus is not in the gamezone đđż So the threat still exists gamezone or not. And it exists where I students reside and walk to the game. |
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Post by countryboy on Sept 12, 2023 10:39:37 GMT -5
That threat exists throughout Greensboro. The demographics around campus have changed dramatically and most of the properties are no longer owner occupied but rental property. Personally, I donât believe the game zone has deterred attendance. I really donât miss being harassed by the local non paying food/alcohol begging locals who donât enhance my game day experience.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 12, 2023 10:45:50 GMT -5
One thing that I think would enhance the game day experience would be having multiple food trucks outside the stadium.
Our concession vendor may have negotiated exclusive rights before, but that should only apply to inside the stadium now.
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Post by westcoastaggie on Sept 12, 2023 11:37:01 GMT -5
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 12, 2023 11:50:59 GMT -5
I dont know how I feel about my athletic leadership battling trolls on social media. |
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Post by ALLnAggie on Sept 12, 2023 11:53:34 GMT -5
I still say the gamezone has stifled growth and attendance. We squandered the celebration bowl momentum and 5-6 years of being the best in HBCU football. If we have the largest school we should have the best attendance. But even SC State beats us who also has some sort of a gamezone but not as large and restrictive as ours. But we should be leading attendance. That should be the goal. The appeasement that we are better than others, that donât have the students, resources, success, and history as our program. Because we made the conscious decision to move out of a black conference it is imperative that we build this culture.. If we want to move to FBS we have to build this culture. There is no reason for us to resign that the SWAC schools are the only ones that can do this when we have the same exact audience. This is a choice and we have to make different choices to breed a great home experience that people attend games even if itâs Villanova and Richmond. What attendance data point are you using to compare A&T and SC State? A&Tâs attendance on average is 50% better than SC State. |
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Post by marchingband1969 on Sept 12, 2023 11:56:21 GMT -5
We had a great atmosphere at the game this week. At least 21,000 people in attendance. I would guess 14,000 to 15,000 were A&T fans. How many will return for the next home game, October 7th vs Villanova? Can we target populations in a three hour radius from campus? Marketing questions? As a business coach that helps businesses improve their sales and marketing approach, I can honestly say... our marketing is lousy. It's better today than in the past but it's still lousy! We had great attendance at the NCCU game because of the storylines around the teams playing not the marketing done. NCCU was National Champions, Celebration Bowl Champs that had pimped slapped us on the big stage in Charlotte the previous year. A&T has an expensive new coach with impressive credential and had waited all year for this revenge game against Central. That game marketed itself. If you want to see the true impact of our marketing, look at a game against a non-rivalry opponent... Only the diehard Aggie football fans show up. |
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Post by KidHeartless on Sept 12, 2023 12:02:55 GMT -5
hes right....again
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Post by aggieswag on Sept 12, 2023 12:57:46 GMT -5
Aggieswag, Can you explain now the gamezone has stifled growth and attendance? What data can you share so that we (I) can understand? Also what is SC State beating us in and what is the difference between their gamezone and ours? I agree we need to work on more of the culture for A&T, the game is still a major social place and not at the moment a rabid fanbase from students to alums that are 100% committed to the actual game. The gamezone has stifled grown and it was by design. As you hear the other board members state specifically the goal. Which is to keep the community out as much as possible. Based off of a fear that has never ever happened at an A&T football game, and the gamezone doesnât stop that threat from happening. So if the goal is to keep the community out it baffles me when we see exactly that happen people are surprised. The university decided it could just as much money currently by squeezing us to death and hopefully the students will show. Itâs as basic as looking at things in a quantity economics vs quality economics. Both can achieve the same goal maybe financially. My question is for how long. I disagree with this practice of the game zone because if you are trying to fill stadiums w the masses that philosophy does not make sense. You canât build what we want to build walking around being in fear and exclusive. We will have to market to the masses. The easiest way to do that is to extend the game day experience that allows those of us in the cage to invite and bring people to that experience. But instead cousins that used to come to the game donât come to the game. Those cousins and kids turn into ticket holders. Those friends become ticket holders .. thatâs how you build culture. That sustainability in a world that you have to increase all the time. Right now itâs barely working but we have an old base, and that base and the new base donât have the same flexibility to solidify as they did. Not unless you want to spend an additional $200 to invite a family of four to the game. Our policy is a way - itâs not the only way, and there is no data in the world that suggests itâs beneficial. |
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Post by aggieclt on Sept 12, 2023 13:17:26 GMT -5
I still say the gamezone has stifled growth and attendance. We squandered the celebration bowl momentum and 5-6 years of being the best in HBCU football. If we have the largest school we should have the best attendance. But even SC State beats us who also has some sort of a gamezone but not as large and restrictive as ours. But we should be leading attendance. That should be the goal. The appeasement that we are better than others, that donât have the students, resources, success, and history as our program. Because we made the conscious decision to move out of a black conference it is imperative that we build this culture.. If we want to move to FBS we have to build this culture. There is no reason for us to resign that the SWAC schools are the only ones that can do this when we have the same exact audience. This is a choice and we have to make different choices to breed a great home experience that people attend games even if itâs Villanova and Richmond. Another year/season, same post. |
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Post by Aggie Monster on Sept 12, 2023 13:17:47 GMT -5
We had a great atmosphere at the game this week. At least 21,000 people in attendance. I would guess 14,000 to 15,000 were A&T fans. How many will return for the next home game, October 7th vs Villanova? Can we target populations in a three hour radius from campus? Marketing questions? As a business coach that helps businesses improve their sales and marketing approach, I can honestly say... our marketing is lousy. It's better today than in the past but it's still lousy! We had great attendance at the NCCU game because of the storylines around the teams playing not the marketing done. NCCU was National Champions, Celebration Bowl Champs that had pimped slapped us on the big stage in Charlotte the previous year. A&T has an expensive new coach with impressive credential and had waited all year for this revenge game against Central. That game marketed itself. If you want to see the true impact of our marketing, look at a game against a non-rivalry opponent... Only the diehard Aggie football fans show up. Not according to Oliver. He sales pitching that all A&T games would be like that if they had stayed in the MEAC, LOL |
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Post by A&T AGGIE 96 on Sept 12, 2023 13:20:14 GMT -5
I can see having these conversations for the sake of discussion about the "Game Zone"...but one has to ask "Do we have a problem with attendance"? Don't we generally finish as one of the top FCS schools in attendance? We could always do better, but at what cost. Should there be a "premium" placed on buying a ticket? I think so...If you wanna go to the game, or hang out around the game and other activities you should buy a ticket.
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Post by aggieswag on Sept 12, 2023 17:22:11 GMT -5
I can see having these conversations for the sake of discussion about the "Game Zone"...but one has to ask "Do we have a problem with attendance"? Don't we generally finish as one of the top FCS schools in attendance? We could always do better, but at what cost. Should there be a "premium" placed on buying a ticket? I think so...If you wanna go to the game, or hang out around the game and other activities you should buy a ticket. Yes we emphatically have a problem w attendance. Being 5th or 6th when we have the capacity to be 1st or 2nd is unacceptable in my book. Our competition or comparison is not deleware st itâs univ of Deleware etc.. why be ok w the status quo when we all have seen us do better and when we know we can do better. If this policy was tremendously successful then others would follow suit and do it.. but no one would ever make that decision because the policy does not make sense. |
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