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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2022 15:03:38 GMT -5
We also had 6 home games this year. We should have a buffer as a result of the extra home game. But, that's something for the AD to worry about. If we win, I hope we submitted a bid.
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Post by VA's Finest on Nov 14, 2022 15:34:17 GMT -5
The only way to even come close to breaking even financially in the playoffs is to not host, where your only expense is travel for team.
Wherever the Aggies are playing I will be!!!
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Post by saabman on Nov 14, 2022 19:02:49 GMT -5
The only way to even come close to breaking even financially in the playoffs is to not host, where your only expense is travel for team. Wherever the Aggies are playing I will be!!! The NCAA covers travel , meals and lodging for the visiting teams.
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Post by VA's Finest on Nov 14, 2022 19:14:00 GMT -5
That's why traveling is only way to really break even
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Post by Bornthrilla on Nov 14, 2022 19:16:35 GMT -5
If the goal is just to save money, we are not really serious about competing for a FCS title.
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Post by aggieswag on Nov 14, 2022 20:00:34 GMT -5
If the goal is just to save money, we are not really serious about competing for a FCS title. Exactly the mindset has to change. There are residuals incomes and benefits to hosting a game that is not necessarily counted in revenue. Just like the Celebration Bowl paid out a million but we we ended up with 25x that amount in exposure, increase attendance etc… Saying you don’t want to lose money says to recruits and the fcs world is you are not serious about being competitive at this level. You give your team/program the best chance to win. Ex. Coastal Carolina annihilated us twice at their home, when they came to us undefeated and ranked #2 in the country we gave them the game and they won by one point. It’s a major difference saving a few dollars should not play into the factor of hosting a game. Idc if it’s 5 people on the stands or 5K it’s worth it. “Scared money don’t make no money”
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2022 22:18:32 GMT -5
The only way to even come close to breaking even financially in the playoffs is to not host, where your only expense is travel for team. Wherever the Aggies are playing I will be!!! The NCAA covers travel , meals and lodging for the visiting teams. For the specific traveling party. They won't reimburse us for Band travel, SGA travel, or any admins that aren't part of the official part of the approved travel party.
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Post by saabman on Nov 15, 2022 0:35:03 GMT -5
If the goal is just to save money, we are not really serious about competing for a FCS title. Exactly the mindset has to change. There are residuals incomes and benefits to hosting a game that is not necessarily counted in revenue. Just like the Celebration Bowl paid out a million but we we ended up with 25x that amount in exposure, increase attendance etc… Saying you don’t want to lose money says to recruits and the fcs world is you are not serious about being competitive at this level. You give your team/program the best chance to win. Ex. Coastal Carolina annihilated us twice at their home, when they came to us undefeated and ranked #2 in the country we gave them the game and they won by one point. It’s a major difference saving a few dollars should not play into the factor of hosting a game. Idc if it’s 5 people on the stands or 5K it’s worth it. “Scared money don’t make no money” But common sense reasoning dose . Don't let vanity Cloud your judgment .
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Post by VA's Finest on Nov 15, 2022 2:01:27 GMT -5
Disclaimer : I like either option, CB or FCS playoffs. Winning CB was awesome experience each time and potentially winning a national title would also be awesome.
I harken back to the reason we are no longer participating in CB and it has a lot to do with timing.
We participated in CB because we were members of the MEAC. We no longer compete in CB because we are members of the BS soon to be CAA. When we competed in the 4 CB we won them all garnering black college national champion title. In the minds of BCF fans we were the cream of the crop and some wondered how would HBCU national champion fare in FCS playoffs.
Now bring in the actual reasoning for us joining the BS and ultimately CAA. From the outside it clearly appeared to be a move associated with football, but around here we continously hear about how are Chancellor has aspirations of becoming the first R1 HBCU institution.
Football has absolutely nothing to do with our academic status but surrounding ourselves with other R1 institutions certainly gives us a better footing. The MEAC was not a viable vehicle for Martin to reach his goal but the BS and CAA provides like institutions that share the same academic aspirations or are already there we can exchange with.
Leaving the CB agreement in the MEAC and reentering the FCS playoff format was simply a byproduct of T joining the BS and eventually the CAA. Not saying we don't want to compete and won't put our best foot forward because I believe we will but competing in the FCS playoffs is not at the forefront of our move, becoming the first R1 HBCU was and is.
I guess I'm just trying to say if Martin felt staying in MEAC would help T obtain R1 status, we would be in CB this year and going forward. Clearly he felt and convinced the BOT otherwise and saw the BS and CAA as conduits to desired goal.
*** I believe this was not a move based on football but instead academics, football being put in playoff realm is simply a byproduct***
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Post by saabman on Nov 15, 2022 9:01:33 GMT -5
Disclaimer : I like either option, CB or FCS playoffs. Winning CB was awesome experience each time and potentially winning a national title would also be awesome. I harken back to the reason we are no longer participating in CB and it has a lot to do with timing. We participated in CB because we were members of the MEAC. We no longer compete in CB because we are members of the BS soon to be CAA. When we competed in the 4 CB we won them all garnering black college national champion title. In the minds of BCF fans we were the cream of the crop and some wondered how would HBCU national champion fare in FCS playoffs. Now bring in the actual reasoning for us joining the BS and ultimately CAA. From the outside it clearly appeared to be a move associated with football, but around here we continously hear about how are Chancellor has aspirations of becoming the first R1 HBCU institution. Football has absolutely nothing to do with our academic status but surrounding ourselves with other R1 institutions certainly gives us a better footing. The MEAC was not a viable vehicle for Martin to reach his goal but the BS and CAA provides like institutions that share the same academic aspirations or are already there we can exchange with. Leaving the CB agreement in the MEAC and reentering the FCS playoff format was simply a byproduct of T joining the BS and eventually the CAA. Not saying we don't want to compete and won't put our best foot forward because I believe we will but competing in the FCS playoffs is not at the forefront of our move, becoming the first R1 HBCU was and is. I guess I'm just trying to say if Martin felt staying in MEAC would help T obtain R1 status, we would be in CB this year and going forward. Clearly he felt and convinced the BOT otherwise and saw the BS and CAA as conduits to desired goal. *** I believe this was not a move based on football but instead academics, football being put in playoff realm is simply a byproduct*** I agree with everything you have stated 👍 but the Big S***it being that they have No Carnegie R1 or R2 rated institutions . And the R2 rated institutions A&T , Hampton and Kennesaw ( which was a football only member so they shouldn't count) are no longer in the conference . The MEAC had more R2 rated institutions then the Big S***it even after the A&T and Hamptons move , now they have none . So the like minded institutions conversation when pertaining to the Big S***it has always left me VEXED. Outside of the limited travel costs excuse 😆 the move to the Big s*** was a waste of time and money that could be used to upgrade our program, because we didn't need the big s*** to move to the CAA institutionally .
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Post by aggieswag on Nov 15, 2022 10:03:37 GMT -5
Disclaimer : I like either option, CB or FCS playoffs. Winning CB was awesome experience each time and potentially winning a national title would also be awesome. I harken back to the reason we are no longer participating in CB and it has a lot to do with timing. We participated in CB because we were members of the MEAC. We no longer compete in CB because we are members of the BS soon to be CAA. When we competed in the 4 CB we won them all garnering black college national champion title. In the minds of BCF fans we were the cream of the crop and some wondered how would HBCU national champion fare in FCS playoffs. Now bring in the actual reasoning for us joining the BS and ultimately CAA. From the outside it clearly appeared to be a move associated with football, but around here we continously hear about how are Chancellor has aspirations of becoming the first R1 HBCU institution. Football has absolutely nothing to do with our academic status but surrounding ourselves with other R1 institutions certainly gives us a better footing. The MEAC was not a viable vehicle for Martin to reach his goal but the BS and CAA provides like institutions that share the same academic aspirations or are already there we can exchange with. Leaving the CB agreement in the MEAC and reentering the FCS playoff format was simply a byproduct of T joining the BS and eventually the CAA. Not saying we don't want to compete and won't put our best foot forward because I believe we will but competing in the FCS playoffs is not at the forefront of our move, becoming the first R1 HBCU was and is. I guess I'm just trying to say if Martin felt staying in MEAC would help T obtain R1 status, we would be in CB this year and going forward. Clearly he felt and convinced the BOT otherwise and saw the BS and CAA as conduits to desired goal. *** I believe this was not a move based on football but instead academics, football being put in playoff realm is simply a byproduct*** I agree with everything you have stated 👍 but the Big S***it being that they have No Carnegie R1 or R2 rated institutions . And the R2 rated institutions A&T , Hampton and Kennesaw ( which was a football only member so they shouldn't count) are no longer in the conference . The MEAC had more R2 rated institutions then the Big S***it even after the A&T and Hamptons move , now they have none . So the like minded institutions conversation when pertaining to the Big S***it has always left me VEXED. Outside of the limited travel costs excuse 😆 the move to the Big s*** was a waste of time and money that could be used to upgrade our program, because we didn't need the big s*** to move to the CAA institutionally . And we didn’t need to move to the CAA to become a R1 institution. It’s a way it’s not the only way. The verdict is still out whether this experiment will be worth it. Right now our fans and students not feeling it. Being validated by PWIs is how this is perceived - and I think they were hoping a different perception. Maybe that will change but I’m not optimistic about the capacity we would need to make them interested. If we are all jealous of what’s about to happen in December and we are - imagine what recruits think? Future students? While are friends down 40 will get a million plus dollars, 2 million in viewership and We are having a conversation about going to Elon. And that’s supposed to be better 💁🏿 Having said that Chancellor has proved me wrong before so I will wait and see.
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Post by aggie2039 on Nov 15, 2022 10:10:49 GMT -5
Please close this thread before we go further off base, the wackos are starting to come out....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2022 10:13:46 GMT -5
I agree with everything you have stated 👍 but the Big S***it being that they have No Carnegie R1 or R2 rated institutions . And the R2 rated institutions A&T , Hampton and Kennesaw ( which was a football only member so they shouldn't count) are no longer in the conference . The MEAC had more R2 rated institutions then the Big S***it even after the A&T and Hamptons move , now they have none . So the like minded institutions conversation when pertaining to the Big S***it has always left me VEXED. Outside of the limited travel costs excuse 😆 the move to the Big s*** was a waste of time and money that could be used to upgrade our program, because we didn't need the big s*** to move to the CAA institutionally . And we didn’t need to move to the CAA to become a R1 institution. It’s a way it’s not the only way. The verdict is still out whether this experiment will be worth it. Right now our fans and students not feeling it. Being validated by PWIs is how this is perceived - and I think they were hoping a different perception. Maybe that will change but I’m not optimistic about the capacity we would need to make them interested. If we are all jealous of what’s about to happen in December and we are - imagine what recruits think? Future students? While are friends down 40 will get a million plus dollars, 2 million in viewership and We are having a conversation about going to Elon. And that’s supposed to be better 💁🏿 Having said that Chancellor has proved me wrong before so I will wait and see. Our Football attendance average actually increased slightly compared to 2021. We can’t say the fanbase and students didn’t like it when actual behaviors and revenue generated from ticket sales hadn’t changed.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Nov 15, 2022 10:15:52 GMT -5
2021 was the year with the COVID restrictions. Not sure that is a great comparison.
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Post by marchingband1969 on Nov 15, 2022 10:40:47 GMT -5
We are 4 days away from a conference Championship Football game and a potential trip to the FCS playoffs and we're rehashing past decisions. Let's take care of our business first and debate conference decisions over an adult beverage in January.
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