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Post by Bornthrilla on Jul 19, 2022 8:25:59 GMT -5
Why do we even have PR department at all? Somebody should tell Todd Simmons his services are no longer needed.
We can handle all of our communication issues with just a chain of emails.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2022 8:52:04 GMT -5
Why do we even have PR department at all? Somebody should tell Todd Simmons his services are no longer needed. We can handle all of our communication issues with just a chain of emails. If it was up to you, Todd Simmons would be issuing press releases for when we run out of chicken on Fried Chicken Fridays.
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Post by DOOMS on Jul 19, 2022 10:04:41 GMT -5
For whatever reason you don't seem to see the need to make a public statement BEFORE allowing things to get out of hand. I don't get it, but it seems to work for you and A&T if not for the students directly involved. I tend to believe none of our "peer" institutions would fail to make a simple statement regarding the issue in order to head it off. There is a large number of things our peer institutions would and are doing quite differently. At some point we'll have to admit we're not their peers. That's the thing; A&T IS communicating with the parties that NEED the information. It's on those parties to follow through on the communication A&T is supplying to these necessary parties. Do we need a statement on CNN or MSNBC about A&T housing? No. I'll relay the message to the five folks that talked to me about the issue that heard nothing, including the young lady headed to that "school" up 85 and her parents.
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Post by A&T AGGIE 96 on Jul 19, 2022 10:53:09 GMT -5
As an Alum I feel NCA&T should hold itself to a higher standard where we can, but imma have to say from what I've seen the criticism of the administration and the university is over the top. Students and parents have complained, it's been on TV, and many people have heard about students that want on campus housing not being able to it. The same has is true for student nationally and locally. More than 400 UNC Charlotte students not guaranteed on-campus housing after applying by deadline, University seeking other options for studentsNow I'm not obsessive about social media and don't know what's trending day to day, but it would be interesting to see if UNC Charlotte students are "dogging" out the school for the housing "crisis" they have going on. Are alumni and parents up in arms and calling for heads? IJS We should be sensitive to the needs of our students, and perhaps the school hasn't been as clear as they need to be on not "guaranteeing" housing for upper classmen...but the facts are the facts. NCA&T provides more beds on average than our peers, and is planning more housing for future growth. That's just the truth, despite what one may be hearing or seeing on social media. I get it, it's a tough spot to be in...you are not from the area, no car, or job, and rely on campus housing to continue your studies...but the University doesn't "owe" you housing, and only guarantees a spot for you during your freshman year. I'm not aware of any school that guarantees a room for every student on demand. When I was a student in the mid 90's we complained about parking, and a lack of housing, etc...and the University was about half the size it is now. Students are always going to complain about parking, housing, financial aid, cafe food, class availability, tuition/fee increases, etc...and that's at every school, not just A&T. The more things change, the more they stay the same. Social media just gives an individual a larger megaphone, but doesn't change the facts. If upper classmen think the university is going to restrict or limit freshmen enrollment in order to "guarantee" space on campus for any upper classmen that request it then they are fooling themselves. Housing is not "guaranteed". It is not something that is "owed" to you.
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Post by DOOMS on Jul 19, 2022 11:07:26 GMT -5
I don't think anybody on this thread is dogging T for not having enough beds. At least as far as I'm concerned the issue is we're not publicizing the fact that we house more students than most and that we're determinedly working on the issue. We should be countering ANY negative press we receive with positive press at or above the level of the negative.
There's a saying: Perception is reality. The current perception is we are damn near the only school on earth where students can't get housing. Now everybody on this forum knows that ain't true and knows that we house more students than most. Why didn't any of the five folks that came to me know that?
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Post by 919aggie on Jul 19, 2022 11:33:42 GMT -5
If we want to be a medium sized university, we should operate as one. I posted a tweet about applications and the conversation around it has been about where are we gona house them...
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jul 19, 2022 11:45:19 GMT -5
Perception is often reality.
A lot of you guys are still missing the basic point here.
It's not a matter of whether or not the criticism on social media is warranted. The chief issue here is that the criticism is real and it is pretty loud and it is having an negative impact on A&T's image.
Just because we might not think that is fair doesn't mean we can just close our eyes, plug our ears and hum to ourselves, pretending the criticism is not really out there.
One of the key benefits of strategic communication (Westcoast I would love to explain this novel concept to you one day), is that better messaging could not only mitigate current issues but also help prevent future problems from arising.
We will be back here next July talking about the same housing shortages, unless we begin to clearly inform the students and public about on our policy and housing capabilities.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2022 11:59:31 GMT -5
Perception is often reality. A lot of you guys are still missing the basic point here. It's not a matter of whether or not the criticism on social media is warranted. The chief issue here is that the criticism is real and it is pretty loud and it is having an negative impact on A&T's image. Just because we might not think that is fair doesn't mean we can just close our eyes, plug our ears and hum to ourselves, pretending the criticism is not really out there. One of the key benefits of strategic communication (Westcoast I would love to explain this novel concept to you one day), is that better messaging could not only mitigate current issues but also help prevent future problems from arising. We will be back here next July talking about the same housing shortages, unless we begin to clearly inform the students and public about on our policy and housing capabilities. I hope you realize that students will complain regardless of how The BOT, Chancellor Martin, or any other Admin communicates this to the public. We're talking about Housing. Housing and Parking have been an issue for over 30 years and will continue to be unless enrollment falls off the cliff. And if that happens, we'll have far greater problems than housing.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Jul 19, 2022 12:53:40 GMT -5
I'll say this Dooms, just because someone has a child going to college dont make them have good sense. They still can be stupid, not research, and be just plain wrong or cause their own issue. LOL.
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Post by Maxell on Jul 19, 2022 13:41:29 GMT -5
... just because someone has a child going to college dont make them have good sense.
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Post by 919aggie on Jul 19, 2022 15:45:32 GMT -5
Now why did we have to be put in it? lol
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2022 16:08:38 GMT -5
Now why did we have to be put in it? lol Aggies Watching:
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Post by DOOMS on Jul 21, 2022 11:01:53 GMT -5
Geez.
No lie. Out of the clear blue I just got an im from a co-worker asking "is A&T having housing issues? Them chil'ren ain't got nowhere to live"
Perception is reality unfortunately. Even if in the grand scheme of things it's not a huge deal.
Somebody help me figure it out. I could not WAIT to move off campus when I was there. Granted, rents appear to have doubled since I was there but the costs are still doable, especially when you look at two and three bedroom apartments. What's the deal? Folk don't have cars? Don't wanna pay for the gas? Can't take public transportation? While I think the administration has failed in getting out of front of the issue, I don't even see the issue. No housing? Get a place off campus with your homie. Why isn't that an option?
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Post by aggiestats on Jul 21, 2022 11:52:25 GMT -5
I think the larger issue is that Greensboro is a college town with limited apartments. Two of three apartment complexes I lived in are now owned by A&T. Also, many of these students will need cosigners for outside apartments. Some of these complexes require three times the rent in income. That's difficult for single parent families.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2022 13:12:56 GMT -5
I think the larger issue is that Greensboro is a college town with limited apartments. Two of three apartment complexes I lived in are now owned by A&T. Also, many of these students will need cosigners for outside apartments. Some of these complexes require three times the rent in income. That's difficult for single parent families. Not to mention, the market rate rent increases are nuts. However, there are a few complexes around Greensboro that will rent to students, especially if they are able to pool their funds together. Also, there haven't been new college apartments built to replace the ones A&T and UNCG purchased.
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