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Post by DOOMS on Feb 15, 2022 14:49:42 GMT -5
i wanna know what a&t will do if one of our teams gets treated the same way at presbyterian or any other bsc school as howard did. So do I. "Running away" or "avoiding the issue" doesn't answer that question. But far more important than what we'll do is what will the conference do and what will Presbyterian do? If they do anything less than expel the students in question if they find the allegations true, then I would expect that we would make a "public" statement and also a "private" statement to the conference and to Presby. What that statement would be I don't know, but I suspect it would lead them to know they'd be at strong risk of losing their largest school and never seeing another hbcu enter their ranks if things didn't improve dramatically, and quickly. I don't know that we can hold the whole school responsible for the actions of a few dumb racist hicks. That being typed, if the school fails to hold the dumb racist hicks responsible, then we don't have much choice.
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Post by saabman on Feb 15, 2022 16:06:05 GMT -5
i wanna know what a&t will do if one of our teams gets treated the same way at presbyterian or any other bsc school as howard did. So do I. "Running away" or "avoiding the issue" doesn't answer that question. But far more important than what we'll do is what will the conference do and what will Presbyterian do? If they do anything less than expel the students in question if they find the allegations true, then I would expect that we would make a "public" statement and also a "private" statement to the conference and to Presby. What that statement would be I don't know, but I suspect it would lead them to know they'd be at strong risk of losing their largest school and never seeing another hbcu enter their ranks if things didn't improve dramatically, and quickly. I don't know that we can hold the whole school responsible for the actions of a few dumb racist hicks. That being typed, if the school fails to hold the dumb racist hicks responsible, then we don't have much choice. Interesting point . What should our reaction be if the parties involved turn out not to be enrolled students but just a group of RN hicks hanging out on campus that day .
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Post by DOOMS on Feb 15, 2022 16:19:23 GMT -5
The conference and the school should make sure campus police are contacted immediately to insure that doesn't happen EVER again. If it's a first time occurrence (maybe, maybe not, but it's the first time it's been reported so we pretty much have to treat it as such) then the preparation against it happening in the future should start conference-wide from this point. Whether that happens or not remains to be seen.
Is the proper response to just leave the conference? Or leave and say we're leaving because we're avoiding any issues that could arise seeing as how Howard was treated? Or to stay and directly address the commissioner "angry Black man" style and tell him what he's "gone" do? Or to stay and rationally explain the concern and offer constructive suggestions regarding conference-wide policies that should be enacted to ensure the safety of opponents and their supporters and send a strong message to riff-raff that such behavior won't be tolerated and will be dealt with to the fullest extent possible whther said riff-raff is an enrolled student or just some local? I know my preference.
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Post by marchingband1969 on Feb 15, 2022 18:48:29 GMT -5
Before we start picketing the Big South Headquarters and boycotting the tournament, let's wait to get more facts about the incident. I'm not saying Presbyterian students are above such racist actions but let's wait to see if the racists were students. And if they were students, they asses have got to be punished.
During our last game against Appalachian State in Boone several years ago, I parked on a side street near campus. Some RNs were hanging out on a porch, barbecuing and shouted some racist comments at me and my travel partner. They looked like they could have been students but I couldn't tell.
Let's see if Presbyterian University makes a serious effort to investigate and punish the offenders.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Feb 16, 2022 13:29:12 GMT -5
according to the "washington post" article, presbyterian stated that they were "presbyterian students" who did the taunting. see page 2 of this thread...
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Post by saabman on Feb 16, 2022 14:46:57 GMT -5
Before we start picketing the Big South Headquarters and boycotting the tournament, let's wait to get more facts about the incident. I'm not saying Presbyterian students are above such racist actions but let's wait to see if the racists were students. And if they were students, they asses have got to be punished. During our last game against Appalachian State in Boone several years ago, I parked on a side street near campus. Some RNs were hanging out on a porch, barbecuing and shouted some racist comments at me and my travel partner. They looked like they could have been students but I couldn't tell. Let's see if Presbyterian University makes a serious effort to investigate and punish the offenders. Like what we did or did not do investigating after the GW game ?? Are we still investigating that incident what did we sweep it under the rug ?
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Post by The Professor on Feb 16, 2022 16:04:51 GMT -5
What action do you suggest OSA? lol, you don't wanna know. cuz i'd suggest that we pull outta the bsc and rejoin the meac. that's the action that i'd suggest. problem solved... Lol any reason to go back to the MEAC 😆
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Feb 16, 2022 18:47:42 GMT -5
lol, you don't wanna know. cuz i'd suggest that we pull outta the bsc and rejoin the meac. that's the action that i'd suggest. problem solved... Lol any reason to go back to the MEAC 😆 for "me", that's true, "very true" indeed...
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Post by DOOMS on Feb 17, 2022 15:17:09 GMT -5
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Feb 17, 2022 15:32:04 GMT -5
based on pc's statement, i wonder what the "consequences" will be? i really feel bad for howard's ladies given how the ahmaud arbery situation jumped off. ya never know, those dudes could've been "armed".
that's a very scary situation, especially for young ladies, cuz ya never know what dudes like that are capable of doing...
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Post by DOOMS on Feb 17, 2022 16:04:29 GMT -5
I thought it was interesting that the letter from PC came from the AD and the "Chairperson of the Diversity & Inclusion Advisory Council," who of course is a Black faculty member. I also realized their basketball and baseball coaches are Black. They all need to be putting pressure on the administration to find the responsible parties and expel them, period. Anything less is a slap in the face of the minorities they appear to be actively recruiting, and the ones on faculty and staff.
It's already taking a little too long imo. It's made NBC news at this point, and there has yet to be an ultimate resolution beyond "we're sorry some of our supposed religious-minded students suck."
The offenders may have been key athletes, and that could be part of the problem.
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Post by DOOMS on May 13, 2022 9:24:53 GMT -5
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Post by aggie94 on May 13, 2022 9:38:10 GMT -5
They should certainly be commended. Absolutely no place for it any circumstance, but especially towards women.
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Post by Maxell on May 13, 2022 9:59:02 GMT -5
They took very definitive action against every party, which showed the depth of the investigation. Much more thorough than if they had conducted an internal investigation.
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Post by Bornthrilla on May 13, 2022 10:00:02 GMT -5
That's what I call dropping the hammer. Kudos to the Presbyterian College administration.
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