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Post by Bornthrilla on Dec 11, 2021 9:18:55 GMT -5
We are use to that Beautiful Homecoming Queen but now the Homecoming Queen is Super Fat turn to Big Shirley and Ugly. My lord. lol
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Post by lobengula on Dec 11, 2021 12:41:36 GMT -5
I am not disloyal but also realistic. A confluence of things happened that turned this year into a lost season. We had lesser talent than the hype made us believe and we had injuries and players that for whatever reason simply did not perform. Martin was expected to be a POY candidate and be the catalyst for our offense, he was hurt and ineffective. Zach Leslie was a nonfactor and was our best wideout. Most importantly, the QB simply was not that good, he was slow with his reads and made mistakes at critical junctures (like the pick against Monmouth late in the 3rd quarter). Lastly, our secondary was horrible, and every team exploited that. We were slow as a team. It was evident in the Furman game when their TE took a short crossing route 87 yards to the house. I don't think the weight room was our problem it was team speed. In fact, we probably played Kennesaw State tougher than anyone in the Big South (they smashed everyone else by 3-4 touchdowns. including Monmouth) Our fanbase was spoiled because we had better players like Cohen, Parker, Bell, Raynard, Ghardin, Carter, Johnson. McCain. Unfortunately, most programs not named Alabama go through cycles where the talent base catches up. Unless we can recruit better players this is the tip of the iceberg. So we need to hope the unfounded theory of the BS move as a positive for recruitment is true! Disloyalty is when you pull a conference switch surreptitiously without even the thought of the preferences and concerns of the fans. alumni, students and stakeholders. It is for this reason that I questioned the motives of the AD do he really appreciate the ethos of A&T in an existential sense. We have a history of standing up against injustice despite who disagree. The BOT erred egregiously in this move. I think this move has really hurt us with the pain being remarkable as we view the Celebration Bowl next weekend. The arguments concerning travel lost time from the classroom was and still remains frivolous as a rationale for justification of the move. Matter of fact the idea should have been tabled pending input from all concerned parties. That this did not happen is the cause for all of the dismay being expressed. Basically this was a corporate take over of the Culture. The rational for the move does not consider the fact that we are in a mobile culture with cell phones basically having the world in your hand. So the student athletes could have used WIFI for their classroom assignments. I remember when my grandson was a freshman and we were on the road to Morgan State and something came up about homework raised by his Grand Mother. We had to stop and go into a Micky D for him to complete the assignment. I raise this because some of this buses have WIFI capability so this argument is and remains moot. It is my opinion that this BOT move was deliberate under the guise of elevat ion of A&T as an academic institution to benefit others in their growth. Quite frankly I've met Coach Washington he is in my opinion a good man. The fact that the AD forced the Strength Coach out speaks volumes which some here do not wish to discuss is telling as well. A&T is a community of scholars rather than hoodlums and this must be address moving forward if we are to reclaim our shine. As I think about Coach Hornsby Howell, Coach Jefferies this thug mentality is an insult to their memories. I might even put Ellis Corbett in the mix who I butted heads with in the day. Finally we may have to rethink our shituation and return to the MEAC because to linger there is to be like the Dry Bones in the Valley. Quite honestly I think that this was a well thought out move to prevent the return to activism by A&T. See Howard University student protests. Recall that SNCC was birthed at Shaw University our Mother. Now while certain individuals will disagree with their closed minds quite frankly I do not give a ******. If we are honest this move was predicate on the termination of Coach Thompson years ago. Perhaps it was because he was more popular than Martin? Certain folk in high places are fake despite the fact that they possess credentials. In fact the Peter Principle comes into play here which is why the Department of Political Science was absolved which is more relevant now in these turbulent times when our survival as a people is at stake.
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Post by aggie2039 on Dec 11, 2021 12:55:36 GMT -5
Weird!
Athletics takes a back seat to academics, being the black MIT does more for the culture than playing in a HBCU football conference
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Post by Maxell on Dec 11, 2021 12:58:50 GMT -5
We had better start winning quick. My brain is about to explode! LOL
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Post by Aggie77 on Dec 11, 2021 18:04:09 GMT -5
Unfortunately, if it’s true next season is the last year of his contract, it may be tough to get beyond next season if they isn’t at least a winning season. But if HBCU/Celebration titles are automatic contract extenders, then he may have three years left anyway. I think his immediate future is tied less to wins/loses and more to the intangibles (on/off field discipline, grade success, etc). My biggest intangible is how we look in the wins and loses. Next year we will probably have 5 OOC games, hopefully he can get a cupcake. With NCCU 9/3, NDSU 9/10, his cupcake can’t be before 9/17. A money game is probably in the mix and Norfolk 11/5, he has to win 3 and go at least 4-2 in conference. Next year we should have CSU, Hampton Campbell at home, with Monmouth, RMU and GW on the road. 7-4 will be an improvement, but I don’t think 4-2 will win the conference. 7-4 is a job saver. Though in a new conference a lack of improvement will bring great doubt. 9-2. If this whole thing is about a playoff bid, nothing less will get us there. 9-2 as a minimum job saver? That’s a pretty rigorous corrective action plan goal! I don’t think that’s an achievable goal next year. We aren’t gonna be a playoff team next year.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Dec 11, 2021 18:50:17 GMT -5
no they didn't because we didn't leave the ciaa for a "pwc" conference. its a "slap in the face" to "ALL" hbcu's for a&t to withdraw its support from hbcu's and give it to pwc's. we didn't do that when we left the ciaa for the meac and that's the difference... So then it should also be a slap in the face when our students leave a HBCU and go work for Fortune 500 companies right? Because they going to work for white people right? Since we have such issues with white people , maybe we shouldn't be on a white owned TV channel , or wear uniforms from a white owned company or take money from white owned businesses. Since we are an HBCU and only should do business with Black people that's a "false equivalence", but i expect "false equivalences" from folk like you because you have no "factual" comeback...
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Post by The Professor on Dec 11, 2021 19:16:02 GMT -5
So then it should also be a slap in the face when our students leave a HBCU and go work for Fortune 500 companies right? Because they going to work for white people right? Since we have such issues with white people , maybe we shouldn't be on a white owned TV channel , or wear uniforms from a white owned company or take money from white owned businesses. Since we are an HBCU and only should do business with Black people that's a "false equivalence", but i expect "false equivalences" from folk like you because you have no "factual" comeback... It's not false. You don't want to compete against PWIs in a non HBCU football conference. My point is , if u don't wanna compete against PWIs because it henders our Blackness and is a slap in the face to our culture, Why compete against PWIs in any sport? Why have non Black owned companies at our career fair? Why accept monies from non Black companies? If u want to go back to seperate but equal just say that. Don't hide behind us going to a PWI conference and competing against white people , When we do it in every thing else. Academics included
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Dec 11, 2021 19:25:46 GMT -5
that's a "false equivalence", but i expect "false equivalences" from folk like you because you have no "factual" comeback... It's not false. You don't want to compete against PWIs in a non HBCU football conference. My point is , if u don't wanna compete against PWIs because it henders our Blackness and is a slap in the face to our culture, Why compete against PWIs in any sport? Why have non Black owned companies at our career fair? Why accept monies from non Black companies? If u want to go back to seperate but equal just say that. Don't hide behind us going to a PWI conference and competing against white people , When we do it in every thing else. Academics included i don't know who you're talkin' bout! i personally have "NEVER" said those things, those are your words not mine... please feel free to post "ANYTHING" that shows that i said those things? go ahead, have at it!! you have my permission...
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Post by The Professor on Dec 11, 2021 19:47:32 GMT -5
It's not false. You don't want to compete against PWIs in a non HBCU football conference. My point is , if u don't wanna compete against PWIs because it henders our Blackness and is a slap in the face to our culture, Why compete against PWIs in any sport? Why have non Black owned companies at our career fair? Why accept monies from non Black companies? If u want to go back to seperate but equal just say that. Don't hide behind us going to a PWI conference and competing against white people , When we do it in every thing else. Academics included i don't know who you're talkin' bout! i personally have "NEVER" said those things, those are your words not mine... please feel free to post "ANYTHING" that shows that i said those things? go ahead, have at it!! you have my permission... Everytime u rant about leaving the MEAC , that's the underlying point. Your fear of competition with PWIs. FAMU and BCU left too. Never seen you complain on any site that your on. Their backstabbing of the MEAC is ok because atleast they went to another HBCU conference 🙄
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Dec 11, 2021 19:55:17 GMT -5
i don't know who you're talkin' bout! i personally have "NEVER" said those things, those are your words not mine... please feel free to post "ANYTHING" that shows that i said those things? go ahead, have at it!! you have my permission... Everytime u rant about leaving the MEAC , that's the underlying point. Your fear of competition with PWIs. FAMU and BCU left too. Never seen you complain on any site that your on. Their backstabbing of the MEAC is ok because atleast they went to another HBCU conference 🙄 so where is your "evidence"? oh, i get it. couldn't find anything, huh? why am i not surprised? so as usual, you move the goal posts and make shyt up! yep, that's what you do. i should expect no less...
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Post by aggieforlife on Dec 11, 2021 20:26:28 GMT -5
I hear your arguments on us accepting monies from non Black Companies but on the flip side Chinese or Japan people will not due Business with Black folks or Communitys Jews will not due Business with Black Communities.India culture will not due Business with Black Communities. I have said it once we are the only Race that give our Best to the other side of all Cultures Black Women goes to Asain for nails and toes who spend the most on Tide and BMW or Foreign Cars one Word African Americans Race.We are the Number one HBCu in Country but we are part of The Big South let that sink in BIg South it does not even Sound Right. WE HAVE been had and every one will be in their feelings after the CB Game make my words we are Dead Man walking going Foward. WE HAVE THE TOP Engineering Program now Big South Top Track Program now Big South Largest HBCU in Nation Now Big South...One of the Best Apr in Sports now Big South..We have been PImp Hood Wink and now Picking Cotton for The Big South..We will never be reverent again ...
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Post by Bornthrilla on Dec 11, 2021 20:29:30 GMT -5
Some of yall can not be college educated. Aint no way.
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Post by The Professor on Dec 11, 2021 20:44:06 GMT -5
Everytime u rant about leaving the MEAC , that's the underlying point. Your fear of competition with PWIs. FAMU and BCU left too. Never seen you complain on any site that your on. Their backstabbing of the MEAC is ok because atleast they went to another HBCU conference 🙄 so where is your "evidence"? oh, i get it. couldn't find anything, huh? why am i not surprised? so as usual, you move the goal posts and make shyt up! yep, that's what you do. i should expect no less... Lol of course. You don't complain about WSSU, SSU, FAMU or BCU who all left the MEAC. Yet you constantly and constantly rake A&T and Hampton over for the coals for their decisions. Says it all without u saying it
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Dec 11, 2021 20:57:30 GMT -5
Lol of course. You don't complain about WSSU, SSU, FAMU or BCU who all left the MEAC. Yet you constantly and constantly rake A&T and Hampton over for the coals for their decisions. Says it all without u saying it prove that i "EVER" raked hampton over the coals for their decisions. post the post where i've said that on "ANY" message board? dude, i have to call a spade a spade. you're a flatout "liar"!! tired of you lying on me. that's why you can't post "anything" that supports your accusations. i'm still waiting for you to post your other accusations. look, if you can't be "truthful", then don't quote me...
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Post by aggie2039 on Dec 11, 2021 20:59:15 GMT -5
Some of yall can not be college educated. Aint no way. Or adults…
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