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Post by bluehaze on Mar 10, 2021 13:45:35 GMT -5
Has anyone even thought about the fact that moving to a White Conference could have something to do with A&T , HIU and TSU not being considered for some of these projects by Chris Paul and LeBron James ? HBCU programs and Conferences are the enVogue thing with the heavy Focus from the NBA and it's players and the NFL to a smaller degree. I can not help but think that A&T's move to the BS has hindered it's chances of Contracting with Paul , James or anyone else that is interested in the development and exposure of the HBCU Conference's and Institutions footprint. As far as MJ goes I'll pass on that dude homeboy are not . I think we missed the boat by making that BS move . Sigh... N.C. A&T, LIVE NATION URBAN AND CHRIS PAUL FAMILY FOUNDATION PARTNER FOR INTERNSHIP PIPELINEBy Jackie Torok  02/26/2020 College of Arts, Humanities and Social Sciences, College of Business and Economics EAST GREENSBORO, N.C. (Feb. 26, 2020) – North Carolina Agricultural and Technical State University, Live Nation Urban and Piedmont Triad native and Oklahoma City Thunder point guard Chris Paul, through the Chris Paul Family Foundation, have teamed up to establish a formalized internship pipeline between the university and the company. The partnership supports a new course focused on entertainment, media and sports for students in the Willie A. Deese College of Business and Economics and Department of Journalism and Mass Communication in the College of Arts, Humanities, and Social Sciences, which was introduced by Paul and Harvard Business School professor Anita Elberse, Ph.D. The course, Special Topics in Management, mirrors the class Paul and Elberse demonstrated in partnership with the Deese College on the campus to about 200 students in September. “We are grateful for the generosity of Chris Paul and Live Nation Urban in providing these tremendous opportunities for our college,” said Kevin James, Ph.D., Deese College dean. “Our students have been very excited to be part of this experience as they are being introduced to a whole new world of opportunity in an active and engaging way.” Paul – who found out about Elberse from his friend, fellow NBA superstar Dwayne Wade, and took her class in 2016 – said his goal was to make the course a permanent offering at N.C. A&T. “Access through education helps level the playing field and true leadership comes from knowledge,” Paul said. “I’m looking forward to expanding the partnership with N.C. A&T and Live Nation Urban and seeing the future results of our efforts.” “One of my goals for Live Nation Urban has always been to introduce young African American future executives to the live music Industry,” said Shawn Gee, president of Live Nation Urban. “We are disproportionately underrepresented in this space, and it will take programs like these and partners like Chris and N.C. A&T to help change that narrative.” As part of their commitment to introducing these HBCU students and future executives to the live music industry, Live Nation Urban is offering multiple internship opportunities this spring and summer. These include opportunities with some of their festival platforms like Broccoli City Festival in Washington, D.C., and Roots Picnic in Philadelphia to learn the ins and outs of developing and producing large music festivals as well as opportunities at Live Nation Urban in Los Angeles providing first-hand exposure to the industry.  |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Mar 10, 2021 14:42:17 GMT -5
there's this ole saying, "if it ain't broke, then don't fix it"! there is nothing wrong with the course of action to grow that a&t is presently taking (other than joining the bsc). it ain't broke, so don't try to fix it.
dr. martin has led us to a very prosperous point in our history, so now his leadership ain't good enough? growing a university is not predicated on signing a doggone "shoe deal". otherwise, how do you explain uncg's growth? i don't recall them signing a big time "shoe deal" with a celebrity athlete. yet, they've grown more than us (and famu) and their athletics are "running circles" around ours this school year.
a&t didn't become the largest hbcu in the world by "mimicking" what other hbcu's do. if that were true, nccu would be bigger and better than a&t by now since they copy almost everything we do...
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Post by Maxell on Mar 10, 2021 14:59:56 GMT -5
there's this ole saying, "if it ain't broke, then don't fix it"! there is nothing wrong with the course of action to grow that a&t is presently taking (other than joining the bsc). it ain't broke, so don't try to fix it. dr. martin has led us to a very prosperous point in our history, so now his leadership ain't good enough? growing a university is not predicated on signing a doggone "shoe deal". otherwise, how do you explain uncg's growth? i don't recall them signing a big time "shoe deal" with a celebrity athlete. yet, they've grown more than us (and famu) and their athletics are "running circles" around ours this school year. a&t didn't become the largest hbcu in the world by "mimicking" what other hbcu's do. if that were true, nccu would be bigger and better than a&t by now since they copy almost everything we do... I agree but tell me how UNCG's basketball program "slow-walked" us down. Something needs to be changed. Remember, we were the ones playing our home games in the Coliseum years ago, not them. |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Mar 10, 2021 15:06:36 GMT -5
there's this ole saying, "if it ain't broke, then don't fix it"! there is nothing wrong with the course of action to grow that a&t is presently taking (other than joining the bsc). it ain't broke, so don't try to fix it. dr. martin has led us to a very prosperous point in our history, so now his leadership ain't good enough? growing a university is not predicated on signing a doggone "shoe deal". otherwise, how do you explain uncg's growth? i don't recall them signing a big time "shoe deal" with a celebrity athlete. yet, they've grown more than us (and famu) and their athletics are "running circles" around ours this school year. a&t didn't become the largest hbcu in the world by "mimicking" what other hbcu's do. if that were true, nccu would be bigger and better than a&t by now since they copy almost everything we do... I agree but tell me how UNCG's basketball program "slow-walked" us down. Something needs to be changed. Remember, we were the ones playing our home games in the Coliseum years ago, not them. i haven’t followed uncg athletics closely enough to be able to specify exactly what steps they took to grow their program. but as usual, pwc’s normally outspend us in athletics whether it be facilities, support personnel, athletic budget, et cetera. i would “suspect” than uncg has done the same... |
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Post by marchingband1969 on Mar 10, 2021 18:04:43 GMT -5
Fortunately or unfortunately, A&T has always taken a humble approach to marketing of the school, carefully picking and choosing when to market accomplishments, rightfully fearing that the boogey man is right around the corner looking for something bad to happen. But these times require a new bold approach. We are slowly letting UNCG rise from the ashes to be "Greensboro's Team". Make no mistake that the current racial climate plays a part. Their Black chancellor and Black basketball teams and 5,000 Black students are the perfect cloak around what's really happening. Everyday is a fight to remain relevant, so don't sleep. Our niche is the student who wants a quality education AND the HBCU experience, but they need to know that such a thing exists. We're not humble, we're just poor marketers. We do alot right but marketing ain't one of them! |
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Post by saabman on Mar 10, 2021 22:22:49 GMT -5
I agree but tell me how UNCG's basketball program "slow-walked" us down. Something needs to be changed. Remember, we were the ones playing our home games in the Coliseum years ago, not them. i haven’t followed uncg athletics closely enough to be able to specify exactly what steps they took to grow their program. but as usual, pwc’s normally outspend us in athletics whether it be facilities, support personnel, athletic budget, et cetera. i would “suspect” than uncg has done the same... You have to understand that UNCG does not have Football to compete against for scholarship and facility $$ and also you have to go back to the lean years where Basketball basically carried the athletic department . UNCG had no such problems to contend with so it was easier for them to grow and improve their facilities, athletic budget , et cetera. Football can be a cash cow but it can also be a drainer of your cashflow . |
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Post by saabman on Mar 10, 2021 22:39:54 GMT -5
Fortunately or unfortunately, A&T has always taken a humble approach to marketing of the school, carefully picking and choosing when to market accomplishments, rightfully fearing that the boogey man is right around the corner looking for something bad to happen. But these times require a new bold approach. We are slowly letting UNCG rise from the ashes to be "Greensboro's Team". Make no mistake that the current racial climate plays a part. Their Black chancellor and Black basketball teams and 5,000 Black students are the perfect cloak around what's really happening. Everyday is a fight to remain relevant, so don't sleep. Our niche is the student who wants a quality education AND the HBCU experience, but they need to know that such a thing exists. We're not humble, we're just poor marketers. We do alot right but marketing ain't one of them! Maxwell is correct but for some reason we push the quality education but when it comes to pushing and using the phrase "HBCU experience " they always fall short . When I was at WT a lot of te blacks and some of the whites would ask me what we meant by the Black College (HBCU) experience and all of use that had attend HBCUS before WT could say is ; It is something that can't be explained you can describe it but you can't explain it because it's a feeling . |
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Post by AggiePride on Mar 11, 2021 7:33:41 GMT -5
There is room at the table. This is a very good deal for them and can serve as a template for the next type of deal we should be looking for. Does anyone know what type of deal Howard has with UA?
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Post by AggiePride on Mar 11, 2021 8:54:49 GMT -5
And I think saabman raises some valid points. Our AD is a white man in his fifties/sixties and he has been very successful, but does he appeal to LeBrons like FAMU’s AD might? |
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Post by aggie2039 on Mar 11, 2021 9:04:06 GMT -5
And I think saabman raises some valid points. Our AD is a white man in his fifties/sixties and he has been very successful, but does he appeal to LeBrons like FAMU’s AD might? You guys didn’t read the article...FAMU does not have a deal with James they have a deal with Nike. Next year a different Nike athlete will promote FAMU Another notable part of the arrangement is the shoe company’s commitment to enlist a “top-tier Nike asset” each year to promote FAMU—the proposal specifically mentions James, rapper Travis Scott and tennis player Naomi Osaka as examples. www.sportico.com/leagues/college-sports/2021/florida-ams-lebron-nike-deal-features-millions-in-gear-and-star-promotion-1234624451/ |
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Post by AggiePride on Mar 11, 2021 9:08:46 GMT -5
And I think saabman raises some valid points. Our AD is a white man in his fifties/sixties and he has been very successful, but does he appeal to LeBrons like FAMU’s AD might? You guys didn’t read the article...FAMU does not have a deal with James they have a deal with Nike. Next year a different Nike athlete will promote FAMU Another notable part of the arrangement is the shoe company’s commitment to enlist a “top-tier Nike asset” each year to promote FAMU—the proposal specifically mentions James, rapper Travis Scott and tennis player Naomi Osaka as examples. www.sportico.com/leagues/college-sports/2021/florida-ams-lebron-nike-deal-features-millions-in-gear-and-star-promotion-1234624451/I did read the deal. You make way too many assumptions, unless you are over my shoulder please refrain from saying what someone did or did not do. You have different interpretation, which is cool. Lebron is the conduit for the deal. And do you think Lebron , Osaka, or Scottwould allow some entity to use their likeliness without their permission? |
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Post by aggie2039 on Mar 11, 2021 9:41:58 GMT -5
I did read the deal. You make way too many assumptions, unless you are over my shoulder please refrain from saying what someone did or did not do. You have different interpretation, which is cool. Lebron is the conduit for the deal. And do you think Lebron , Osaka, or Scottwould allow some entity to use their likeliness without their permission? Rightttt....ok |
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Post by aggielaw on Mar 11, 2021 12:41:39 GMT -5
UNCG has twice as many students as A&T(More student fees). Also, part of their history is to spend just enough to beat us, but not enough to beat Carolina.
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Post by Maxell on Mar 11, 2021 13:51:58 GMT -5
UNCG has twice as many students as A&T(More student fees). Also, part of their history is to spend just enough to beat us, but not enough to beat Carolina. I never thought about that way, but ... |
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Post by aggielaw on Mar 11, 2021 14:03:55 GMT -5
It has been been going on since the 70's.
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