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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 8, 2020 15:20:55 GMT -5
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Post by ohsixrain on Oct 9, 2020 11:07:40 GMT -5
Let me switch gears here for a moment and ask a question. If you were a football player and a young lady wanted to get acquainted with you: Would you go over and using today's terms; smash, get some cookie or get some you know what? Or Do you not do anything at all? Now, I get most of us will choose the latter but, I ask of you to think like a 19-22 year old and tell me what would your answer be?
The reason I ask is, that's what these athletes are challenged with. While I get that their scholarship could depend on it but, is that really fair? Are they being deprived of their true college experience by trying to maintain a bubble like environment? My opinion is, it's asking a lot, point blank. There's no need for me to be naïve and act as if they (college students) will not try to be with girls or seek companionship, even during this pandemic just so we alumni can see college football. Now, they are looking into penalizing schools for their students doing what seems to be natural of a normal college student.
We can argue that this isn't normal, speaking of the pandemic but, this is new to them. So, why should we expect them navigate these unchartered waters perfectly? Before you guys jump on my case and beat me up, I just ask to think rationally about what is being asked. Just a question...
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 9, 2020 12:31:31 GMT -5
I have no idea how people are supposed to date during a pandemic. But I'm pretty sure social distancing means staying away from close contact with new people.
If you are saying that it is impossible for young people to social distance then I guess we can just prepare to live in this pandemic for about another decade.
BTW: I still would love to hear just (1) potential solution from you guys. So far, all you guys have done is state the problem and come up with worst cause scenarios.
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Post by ohsixrain on Oct 10, 2020 8:55:55 GMT -5
I think you danced around my question...
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 10, 2020 9:14:09 GMT -5
Q: "Why should we expect them to navigate these unchartered waters perfectly?"
A: I have no idea how people are supposed to date during a pandemic. But I'm pretty sure social distancing means staying away from close contact with new people.
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Not sure what is unclear about that.
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Post by ohsixrain on Oct 10, 2020 15:42:31 GMT -5
Question was...If you were a football player a young lady wanted to acquainted with you: Would you get some cookie or not, as a 19-22 year old..in a nutshell? That's the question that went unanswered.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 10, 2020 16:14:44 GMT -5
I would tell her to wait until the season was over. I wouldn't want to break a major team rule during a pandemic and possibly mess up my entire college football career.
Pretty sure the average football player is not struggling in the romance department. They can understand delayed gratification.
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Post by ohsixrain on Oct 10, 2020 18:08:52 GMT -5
Honesty is all we need...Thrilla. I guess you were never between the ages of 19-22...you skipped those years into adulthood. Secondly, coaches that contract the virus for going home at night to their families. I'm not sure that's fair...
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 10, 2020 19:28:36 GMT -5
I'm desperately trying to understand what point you are attempting to make here.
Not sure why you think it is impossible for students athletes to follow COVID protocols. They are doing it right now.
That is why you are seeing all of these exciting football games on TV today.
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Post by ohsixrain on Oct 10, 2020 21:03:42 GMT -5
We see exciting games with players/teams/coaches testing positive for covid-19. The point is...we are desperately trying to prove a point by playing football when it's unnecessary. The Chiefs and Bears have tested positive, surely the protocols are working.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 10, 2020 22:34:35 GMT -5
So let me just try to make sure I fully understand you here.
Your position is that because we can't guarantee 100 percent negative test results, we shouldn't have had any team sports whatsoever - NBA, WNBA, Major League Soccer, Major League Baseball, NFL, college football and high school football - during this entire pandemic?
Even though half of the sports I just named have already successfully completed their seasons?
And since we are not really close to having a COVID vaccine, you believe we should continue that sports embargo all the way through the spring and summer of 2021 also, right?
Am I stating your position correctly?
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Post by ohsixrain on Oct 11, 2020 9:29:34 GMT -5
No I am saying the politics and political pressure has forced schools to hustle back on the football field chasing a dollar with no regard of the athletes. What is most appalling is you support the position. I just hope you support it out of just selfishness and NOT supporting the person behind the political agenda. See for me, 1 positive test is too many but, I guess for you, isht just happens. As long as it's enough players to take the field, you are fine. Now, comes this huge expectation of 19-22 year olds not to contract this virus or penalties apply. You said yourself a person can contract the virus by just going to the store. So, I was hinting at the bar could be set a little too high. But, we gotta sit here and listen to you speak from a soapbox as if you've never been that age. I think it is disingenuous to believe that a college student will go to college and not want to engage in college student things. It's a huge ask knowing that the state is moving to phase 3 re-opening but, yet the state is spiking.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 11, 2020 10:05:08 GMT -5
What soapbox have I been speaking from? You are inventing conversations in your own head because you cant even figure out what point you want to make now.
When have I ever blamed a kid or any player for testing positive? I emphatize with them. They are just trying to make the most out of a difficult situation and play the sports they love during a pandemic. They are way more courageous and resourceful than some middle aged dudes on a message board whose only solution is to go into total shutdown mode and pray for a miracle.
BTW: You asked me a hypothetical question about social distancing in college and I told you how I would handle it if I were a student athlete. Is that your idea of me being a soapboax? Answering a hypothetical question that you presented to me?
I know how challenging it can be to social distance as a student athlete. That is why I dont freak out like you whenever a team has a positive test. There will be positive test now, in the spring and well after we have a vaccine. People will still be testing positive for COVID in 2022.
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Post by ohsixrain on Oct 11, 2020 10:59:37 GMT -5
So, I guess it's just me. But I have a daughter that participates in sports (cheerleading) and have to listen to the close calls they've had with this virus while knowing that practicing is not necessary. Then, listen to someone speak on such issues with nothing invested. I'm sorry I call that a soapbox.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 11, 2020 11:15:23 GMT -5
But guess what? You daughter is still participating, right? Because that is a calculated risk she is willing to take. Just like members of the football team and coaching staff want to get back out there and play and coach the sport they love - even during this pandemic.
They will follow the safety protocols and social distance as best they can in an attempt to have a season. Why? Because they feel it is a risk worth taking. Evidently, the cheerleading squad feels the same way.
And that is what I've been saying from DAY ONE. Every one is going to make calculated risks for things that are important to them.
Shutting everything down and doing nothing until the virus goes away is not an option.
BTW: I have two kids who participate in youth sports right now. I have a wife who sells real estate and goes out in the world on a daily basis and interacts with new people.
Everyone in the world is dealing with the challenges of this global pandemic. Everyone has something invested.
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