oleschoolaggie
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 21, 2021 14:01:17 GMT -5
now, before i judge this kid i must say that the only video of him that i have seen is his junior year hudl highlights. so don't shoot the messenger, i just "call it the way that i see it". and based on his junior year hudl highlights "ONLY", several things stood out to me. 1 - he never made a basket beyond 10 feet from the basket, (mostly layups or put backs) 2 - no dunks, (i expected to see at least a couple) 3 - on film did not demonstrate any perimeter skills (doesn't mean he can't) again, these observations are based "solely" on his junior year hudl highlights. based "solely" on his junior year hudl highlights, he appears to project as an undersized post player at the d1 level. he will need to work on his "perimeter game" to have impact at the d1 level... I have to agree to disagree because the kid played with in the system at Grimsley , he should not be penalized for doing as his coach asked , and up until the North Carolina High School All Star game I would have agreed but after his performance in that game against four and five star players heading for P5 programs this kid deserves better than he's getting . The kid can ball . I personally hope that he gets a scholarship from someone because I'm not a believer in this preferred walk on BS . And definitely I'm not a fan of Jones and his coaching Style . again, i tried to make it very clear that my comments were based "solely" on his junior year hudl highlights, nothing more, nothing less. by no means am i judging him based on anything other than that because that's all i have seen of him with my own eyes. so i stand behind my comments relative to his junior year hudl highlights "ONLY". since apparently you have seen him play a lot more than i have, perhaps you know more about his game than i do. again, i'm just judging him based on what "i personally" have seen which is why i qualified my statements... |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 21, 2021 14:06:32 GMT -5
now, before i judge this kid i must say that the only video of him that i have seen is his junior year hudl highlights. so don't shoot the messenger, i just "call it the way that i see it". and based on his junior year hudl highlights "ONLY", several things stood out to me. 1 - he never made a basket beyond 10 feet from the basket, (mostly layups or put backs) 2 - no dunks, (i expected to see at least a couple) 3 - on film did not demonstrate any perimeter skills (doesn't mean he can't) again, these observations are based "solely" on his junior year hudl highlights. based "solely" on his junior year hudl highlights, he appears to project as an undersized post player at the d1 level. he will need to work on his "perimeter game" to have impact at the d1 level... Can't disagree with anything stated based on the criterial you established. I will say he doesn't seem to try and do more than he is capable of. Problem I see is that this is supposed to be a "highlight" of him at his best. There was just not anything that jumps off the page for me and only solidifies that a 6'4" post player is not a commodity. All that said, I have never seen him in live action so maybe there is more to him than the hudl highlights. yes, i agree... |
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Post by saabman on Jul 21, 2021 14:37:12 GMT -5
I have to agree to disagree because the kid played with in the system at Grimsley , he should not be penalized for doing as his coach asked , and up until the North Carolina High School All Star game I would have agreed but after his performance in that game against four and five star players heading for P5 programs this kid deserves better than he's getting . The kid can ball . I personally hope that he gets a scholarship from someone because I'm not a believer in this preferred walk on BS . And definitely I'm not a fan of Jones and his coaching Style . again, i tried to make it very clear that my comments were based "solely" on his junior year hudl highlights, nothing more, nothing less. by no means am i judging him based on anything other than that because that's all i have seen of him with my own eyes. so i stand behind my comments relative to his junior year hudl highlights "ONLY". since apparently you have seen him play a lot more than i have, perhaps you know more about his game than i do. again, i'm just judging him based on what "i personally" have seen which is why i qualified my statements... As you should. That is why I agreed but yet I disagreed. Yes I have seen the youngman play a number of times and as we all know things can change drastically in a year as far as in a players development . The things that stands out for me is the level of competition at the high school level and then to put up 20 point and 10 or more rebounds in the North Carolina All Star game against P5 recruits should not be over looked based on his Jr season. OSA you don't have to qualify your statement with me because I know that you not only have a eye for the game but a working knowledge of the game . But I also know that you know that a player can change his entire game in a year's time when it comes to physical growth and size , footwork, basketball fundamentals and so on . Also because a player doesn't dunk that dose not mean that he can . |
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Post by planoaggie on Jul 22, 2021 18:36:06 GMT -5
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Post by Aggie One on Jul 22, 2021 18:50:35 GMT -5
There won't be a new updated basketball roster released for 2021-22 until practice begins in mid-September (Wednesday, Sept. 16). I refer you back to the East-West postgame interview with Cooper from page 6 of this thread. Decisions will also still need be made regarding possible redshirting for any any incoming freshmen. Coming to A&T as a preferred walk-on but will listen to serious offers if they should come his way before August. He can best be described right now as a "tweener" but projects primarily as a blue collar small forward/sixth man at the next level. The kid could prove to be an asset in Jones system of switching defenses/transition offense. |
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Post by planoaggie on Jul 22, 2021 20:28:54 GMT -5
They just updated the roster this week. Last week, they had none of the transfers or freshmen listed on the men's basketball website. I thought PWOs had preference or special permission from the coach to tryout versus regular WOs. The video only states that he will be attending A&T and trying out for the team. Did I miss something or don't exactly understand recruiting terminology? My apologies if I did.
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Post by saabman on Jul 22, 2021 21:48:58 GMT -5
They just updated the roster this week. Last week, they had none of the transfers or freshmen listed on the men's basketball website. I thought PWOs had preference or special permission from the coach to tryout versus regular WOs. The video only states that he will be attending A&T and trying out for the team. Did I miss something or don't exactly understand recruiting terminology? My apologies if I did. PWO are just a word used for a glorified WO LOL. They receive no scholarship Athletic financial aid or resources, they are basically paying there own way ( unless they can get a Academic scholarship or assistance ) in the hopes of getting an Athletic Scholarship one day. I would tell my clients and there kids that an offer of a PWO is the last thing your kids want to hear, unless your child really wants to compete for their institutions. In my opinion if and athlete is good enough to get a PWO offer He/She are good enough to get a scholarship and know less then a partial / academic . There are schools out there prep school , JC , D2 , 1 ,3 and NAIA, but some kids just get overlooked . |
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Post by planoaggie on Jul 23, 2021 0:30:11 GMT -5
Thank you for the additional clarification. I agree with your other comments about a D1 PWO possibly having the ability to earn a full or partial scholarship elsewhere.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 23, 2021 12:52:23 GMT -5
just my opinion, but assuming coach offered him pwo status, then i think that’s the right way to go. the reason i feel that way is because “nobody” over looks a kid who averages a “double-double” particularly at a school like grimsley. sometimes guys like this are “late bloomers” at the d1 level, but you’d never know whether he’ll become a “late bloomer” or not unless you give him a chance and pwo status does exactly that without any risk of using a coveted scholarship...
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Post by planoaggie on Jul 23, 2021 16:50:56 GMT -5
just my opinion, but assuming coach offered him pwo status, then i think that’s the right way to go. the reason i feel that way is because “nobody” over looks a kid who averages a “double-double” particularly at a school like grimsley. sometimes guys like this are “late bloomers” at the d1 level, but you’d never know whether he’ll become a “late bloomer” or not unless you give him a chance and pwo status does exactly that without any risk of using a coveted scholarship... I agree with your comments as well if looking at it from the coach's point of view, but from his video it sounds like he maybe okay accepting an offer from other schools at multiple levels. |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 23, 2021 17:13:56 GMT -5
just my opinion, but assuming coach offered him pwo status, then i think that’s the right way to go. the reason i feel that way is because “nobody” over looks a kid who averages a “double-double” particularly at a school like grimsley. sometimes guys like this are “late bloomers” at the d1 level, but you’d never know whether he’ll become a “late bloomer” or not unless you give him a chance and pwo status does exactly that without any risk of using a coveted scholarship... I agree with your comments as well if looking at it from the coach's point of view, but from his video it sounds like he maybe okay accepting an offer from other schools at multiple levels. yeah, i got the same impression from him in the video as you did. but "apparently" coach is willing to take that risk. i can only assume he has good reason to do so given the class he just signed... |
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