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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Jan 27, 2020 19:25:38 GMT -5
I have no video
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Jan 27, 2020 19:42:03 GMT -5
11-25 from the FT line....it’s killing us. Mikayla has gotta realize she can get her shot anytime she wants it. Her foot speed makes it difficult for opposition to stay in front of her. Jasmin Walton has the potential to be the Swiss Army knife this team needs now. Her defense was hellacious....her penetration on offense was huge as well. We’re still a work in progress without CC, but it helps to get a W again.
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Post by JayBee on Jan 27, 2020 19:50:12 GMT -5
Does anybody know when CC is coming back?
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Post by da heretic on Jan 27, 2020 19:50:41 GMT -5
At least one practice where all they do is shoot free throws. 11 of 25 don't make no sense.
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Post by marchingband1969 on Jan 27, 2020 22:01:53 GMT -5
37% field goal shooting and 20% free throw shooting will only beat bad teams. We've got to shoot better!
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Post by babybandit on Jan 27, 2020 22:37:53 GMT -5
I was very surprise the ladies were able to come away with a win. I was unable to get the stream but looking at the box score it appears to have been a ugly game. 22-59 37.3% from the floor;3-15 20.0% from 3PT range;11-25 44.0% from the FT line and oh yes 28 TO's.Not going to beat many teams with stat's like those.
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Post by saabman on Jan 29, 2020 7:01:22 GMT -5
I was very surprise the ladies were able to come away with a win. I was unable to get the stream but looking at the box score it appears to have been a ugly game. 22-59 37.3% from the floor;3-15 20.0% from 3PT range;11-25 44.0% from the FT line and oh yes 28 TO's.Not going to beat many teams with stat's like those. Usually when a main player goes down the other players try to overcompensate and start pressing instead of relaxing and letting the game (turnovers) come to them . Coach Rob needs stress the importance of playing relax !
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jan 29, 2020 9:36:57 GMT -5
I was very surprise the ladies were able to come away with a win. I was unable to get the stream but looking at the box score it appears to have been a ugly game. 22-59 37.3% from the floor;3-15 20.0% from 3PT range;11-25 44.0% from the FT line and oh yes 28 TO's.Not going to beat many teams with stat's like those. Usually when a main player goes down the other players try to overcompensate and start pressing instead of relaxing and letting the game (turnovers) come to them . Coach Rob needs stress the importance of playing relax ! nah, they need an "overdose" of ball handling drills while under "pressure". in my coaching days i used to make my kids bring the ball up court in practice against "8 players" instead of 5 to force them to use good ball handling techniques and good decision making. to reduce those turnovers he'll have to drill them to death in every practice... Sent from my SM-G950U using proboards
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Post by saabman on Jan 29, 2020 10:03:19 GMT -5
Usually when a main player goes down the other players try to overcompensate and start pressing instead of relaxing and letting the game (turnovers) come to them . Coach Rob needs stress the importance of playing relax ! nah, they need an "overdose" of ball handling drills while under "pressure". in my coaching days i used to make my kids bring the ball up court in practice against "8 players" instead of 5 to force them to use good ball handling techniques and good decision making. to reduce those turnovers he'll have to drill them to death in every practice... Sent from my SM-G950U using proboards That is what playing relaxed is . Knowing when you see a Zone trap that you do not panic . When a player is stressed they will make mistakes . Ball handling drills should be practiced everyday at the opening practice . Theses ladies are playing tight you can see that in there body language . The ball handles are thinking too much about not making a mistake that they make the mistakes that theyare trying to avoid . They need to relax and let the game come to them . No Player can function properly under stress . Rob has his work cut out for him finding a way to get those ladies to loosen up and cut down on turnovers and free throws .
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Jan 29, 2020 10:54:42 GMT -5
Right on
I always teach my kids never catch the ball and start dribbling against a trap . First read the def and pass fake from a tripple threat position,
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Jan 29, 2020 11:29:30 GMT -5
Zone traps aren't what's causing them to turn the ball over 25-30 times a game. CC being out is not what has them turning the ball over 25-30 times a game. We just do not value ball possession. In half court sets - we throw bad entry passes or flat out throw the ball away when passing on the perimeter. We're a bad passing team. I really don't know how much better it's gonna get. When you're averaging 20+ turnovers a game through the end of January, it's very difficult for a tiger to change stripes in February and March.....
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Post by aggieblackie2 on Jan 29, 2020 11:51:37 GMT -5
Some or most may get mad at me as some always do but I think our problem is coaching. I know coach Rob has a good overall record and has won a couple of championships. He has blown a couple also and to go undefeated in the regular season last year and not win ...
Our girls have had a history of not being consistent in hitting free throws, some have been on the team 3 and 4 years and can't make a simple layup.
He concentrates every year on recruiting big girls and not fast, ball handling guards that can shoot jumpers.
I just think that he is a good coach but not a great coach.
Just saying.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jan 29, 2020 11:53:09 GMT -5
nah, they need an "overdose" of ball handling drills while under "pressure". in my coaching days i used to make my kids bring the ball up court in practice against "8 players" instead of 5 to force them to use good ball handling techniques and good decision making. to reduce those turnovers he'll have to drill them to death in every practice... Sent from my SM-G950U using proboards That is what playing relaxed is . Knowing when you see a Zone trap that you do not panic . When a player is stressed they will make mistakes . Ball handling drills should be practiced everyday at the opening practice . Theses ladies are playing tight you can see that in there body language . The ball handles are thinking too much about not making a mistake that they make the mistakes that theyare trying to avoid . They need to relax and let the game come to them . No Player can function properly under stress . Rob has his work cut out for him finding a way to get those ladies to loosen up and cut down on turnovers and free throws . true, they definitely do "panic" a lot of the times that i've seen them play and that can't be fixed overnight. our wings and post players commit most of our turnovers which tells me they aren't used to handling the ball "under pressure". that's what happens sometimes when recruits exclusively play in the post in high school and then get converted to the perimeter in college. that's why high school coaches should put their post players thru the same perimeter drills as their guards because a lot of high school post players are too small to play post in college. it starts with individual drills/fundamentals followed by group drills/fundamentals. and again, poor ball handling skills are not easy to fix "overnight". as frisco said, a lot of it has to do with "instantaneously" reading the defense, knowing what they're throwing at you and then make a good decision accordingly. its a combination of "individual" ball handling skills in addition to "team" ball handling skills. they have to work on both. i mean, i referee games sometimes and see kids make some of the "dumbest" passes. clearly the opponent is in their passing lane, but they try to pass the ball anyway. a good experienced ball handler will recognize that "instantaneously" and not attempt to make that pass. whereas, inexperienced poor ball handlers "panic" and throw it anyway. man, we should be averaging less than 12 turnovers a game. anything more than that is a major problem...
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Jan 29, 2020 12:18:02 GMT -5
I think everybody has made salient points (OSA, saabman, aggieblackie2).... ....I really do think ab2 has touched on a point that needs to be illuminated further, and that is this team's LEVEL OF FOCUS
----carelessly turning the basketball over in non-high pressure situations ----missing free throws at inordinately high clip
To me, that comes to a lack of focus/detail. For such problems, I do believe it is imperative for the coach to set the groundwork that ATTENTION TO DETAILS is of paramount importance. It doesn't matter if you're Baylor, UConn, A&T, UNC, or Bethune-Cookman......at whatever level you are on the basketball totem pole, you essentially are gonna face teams who are EQUAL TO YOU ON THE TALENT LEVEL.
So why does team A beat team B when they're equal on talent ----- execution/focus to detail/less mistakes - this is what is the separating factor. I do question how meticulous Coach Robinson is when it comes to fine-tuning this team...... Hell, the same thing can be said to Coach Jones with the men's team. The women ain't the only ones clanking FTs.
When you recruit good players, your goal is to make them better or great.....not just maintain them at their current level. When you have a good team on paper, you gotta work on the fine things to make them better/great.
Moreso with the women's team - we've been good for a while.....I do have concerns as to whether we're doing the small things (ie. the fine tuning) to make them a great team. Frankly (and I've said this before), we have too many seniors on this team to be turning over the ball this much. Here it is late January, and the problem still is glaringly apparent....
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Post by marchingband1969 on Jan 29, 2020 14:44:51 GMT -5
Some or most may get mad at me as some always do but I think our problem is coaching. I know coach Rob has a good overall record and has won a couple of championships. He has blown a couple also and to go undefeated in the regular season last year and not win ... Our girls have had a history of not being consistent in hitting free throws, some have been on the team 3 and 4 years and can't make a simple layup. He concentrates every year on recruiting big girls and not fast, ball handling guards that can shoot jumpers. I just think that he is a good coach but not a great coach. Just saying. In all team sports, when the team fails to perform it's always the coach's fault. But I think we have more of a recruiting problem than a coaching problem. I agree with you that we bring in big players that have limited mobility. So although they take up space under the basket, they often get outrebounded by shorter more agile players. And we rarely recruit players that can handle the basketball or consistently hit jumpers or layups. And I do mean "rarely." I've seen lady basketball players that have great ball handling skills and consistently hit jumpers or layups but they aren't at HBCUs. Oh we get one or two ever so often but most of the time we don't. I think our kids may lack some skills but they makeup for it with hussle and determination. I don't care how good your coach is, if you don't have the talent you're only going to go so far. I'd like to see our coach with some better talent around him.
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