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Post by aggieblackie2 on May 21, 2020 15:50:13 GMT -5
Why put them mo fo's on a pedestal and glorifying them. Damn Duke, Carolina and ECU did not get this much glorification.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on May 21, 2020 16:27:36 GMT -5
i see i've got a "groupie" following me...
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Post by marchingband1969 on May 21, 2020 17:42:50 GMT -5
Why put them mo fo's on a pedestal and glorifying them. Damn Duke, Carolina and ECU did not get this much glorification. Great point...thanks for reminding me that we have experience playing against some big boys.
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Post by Bornthrilla on May 21, 2020 17:48:21 GMT -5
Are yall seriously worried about competing against another FCS program?
I thought we ended that nonsense after the Jacksonville State victory.
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Post by bseballaggie on May 21, 2020 18:22:11 GMT -5
blackie, a&t deserves all the credit in the world for beating kent state, jsu, unc-c, and ecu, especially the fbs schools. however, that does not change the "FACT" that all 4 of those teams were "low rated" except for jsu which i did not classify as "lowly". if ya don't wanna hear the "truth", then don't read my posts. i dare "ANYBODY" to show me where kent state, unc-c, and ecu had "respectable records" during the seasons that we beat them. in 2018 when we beat ecu they finished the season 3-9. in 2017 when we beat unc-c they finished the season 1-11. in 2016 when we beat kent state they finished the season 3-9.now, if anyone considers those records better than "lowly", especially given that none of those schools are "bcs" schools, then i'd suggest those folks are either "ignorant" of college football or else they must be on that "stuff". since when have 1-11 and 3-9 records not been considered "lowly"? a lot of coaches get "fired" for those kind of records and guess what? all 3 of the coaches of those teams when we played them have since been "fired"! so its a "FACT" that those teams were "lowly" fbs teams when we played them, period. anybody who disputes that needs their friggin' heads examined. now, does it say a lot about a&t football that we beat those teams even though they were not "winning" fbs programs? absolutely it says a lot about a&t football, no other "hbcu" has beaten as many fbs teams during that timeframe than a&t. its a great accomplishment for an hbcu. however, that does not change the "FACT" that kent state, unc-c, and ecu were "weak" fbs teams when we beat them and that's simply the "truth". some people refuse to accept the "truth". but i don't care, i will continue to speak "the truth" no matter whose feelings it hurts. i refuse to sit here and "lie" because of peer pressure... I would argue that those wins, 2018 when we beat ecu they finished the season 3-9. in 2017 when we beat unc-c they finished the season 1-11. in 2016 when we beat kent state they finished the season 3-9 placed us on a equal footing as a lot of those teams that beat your list in those years, which I would argue made us pretty good! The problem with your argument is how you see your cup, is it half empty or half full!
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Post by oleschoolaggie on May 21, 2020 19:43:58 GMT -5
blackie, a&t deserves all the credit in the world for beating kent state, jsu, unc-c, and ecu, especially the fbs schools. however, that does not change the "FACT" that all 4 of those teams were "low rated" except for jsu which i did not classify as "lowly". if ya don't wanna hear the "truth", then don't read my posts. i dare "ANYBODY" to show me where kent state, unc-c, and ecu had "respectable records" during the seasons that we beat them. in 2018 when we beat ecu they finished the season 3-9. in 2017 when we beat unc-c they finished the season 1-11. in 2016 when we beat kent state they finished the season 3-9.now, if anyone considers those records better than "lowly", especially given that none of those schools are "bcs" schools, then i'd suggest those folks are either "ignorant" of college football or else they must be on that "stuff". since when have 1-11 and 3-9 records not been considered "lowly"? a lot of coaches get "fired" for those kind of records and guess what? all 3 of the coaches of those teams when we played them have since been "fired"! so its a "FACT" that those teams were "lowly" fbs teams when we played them, period. anybody who disputes that needs their friggin' heads examined. now, does it say a lot about a&t football that we beat those teams even though they were not "winning" fbs programs? absolutely it says a lot about a&t football, no other "hbcu" has beaten as many fbs teams during that timeframe than a&t. its a great accomplishment for an hbcu. however, that does not change the "FACT" that kent state, unc-c, and ecu were "weak" fbs teams when we beat them and that's simply the "truth". some people refuse to accept the "truth". but i don't care, i will continue to speak "the truth" no matter whose feelings it hurts. i refuse to sit here and "lie" because of peer pressure... I would argue that those wins, 2018 when we beat ecu they finished the season 3-9. in 2017 when we beat unc-c they finished the season 1-11. in 2016 when we beat kent state they finished the season 3-9 placed us on a equal footing as a lot of those teams that beat your list in those years, which I would argue made us pretty good! The problem with your argument is how you see your cup, is it half empty or half full! its not about comparing us to other teams, its more so about how those teams stacked up at the fbs level the seaons we played them. i already stated that we deserved credit for beating those teams despite their records. but that doesn't change the fact that all 3 could be considered "lowly" fbs teams, their records speaks for itself. don't matter who else they beat. that's like saying morgan state should've deserved to go to the cb because they beat us, yet they had a horrible record otherwise. it don't work like that...
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Post by Bornthrilla on May 21, 2020 19:45:21 GMT -5
An FBS school has 85 scholarships. An FCS school has a max of 63.
I dont care if you are facing the worst FBS team of all time; if you beat somebody who has more than 20 scholarships than you do, that is a major accomplishment.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on May 21, 2020 19:50:23 GMT -5
An FBS school has 85 scholarships. An FCS school has a max of 63. I dont care if you are facing the worst FBS team of all time; if you beat somebody who has more than 20 scholarships than you do, that is a major accomplishment. no one said it wasn't a major accomplishment. but someone said those 3 teams were "lowly" fbs teams at the time and they were. you would argue that they weren't lowly fbs teams? despite 1-11 and 3-9 records? that's not "lowly"? if not, then why in the hail did we fire alonzo lee? his record was just as good as unc charlotte's when we beat them...
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Post by Bornthrilla on May 21, 2020 20:34:37 GMT -5
I am late to this thread. What does the records of those previous FBS teams have to do with us playing ND State?
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Post by oleschoolaggie on May 21, 2020 20:40:46 GMT -5
I am late to this thread. What does the records of those previous FBS teams have to do with us playing ND State? nothing. one of the posters said i was putting a&t down for calling kent state, unc charlotte, and ecu "lowly" fbs teams during the seasons we beat them as if i was suppose to say they were "highly regarded" fbs teams during those seasons...
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Post by Bornthrilla on May 21, 2020 20:44:02 GMT -5
Gotcha. I will just say that not many pundits predicted A&T to win those FBS games when they were initially scheduled, so its not really fair to downplay those major upset wins after the fact.
But regardless of our FBS victories, we have proven that we can compete against the top teams in FCS football.
I dont even think that is debatable.
We have as good a chance to beat ND State this Fall as anybody. My money is on us.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on May 21, 2020 20:52:30 GMT -5
Gotcha. I will just say that not many pundits predicted A&T to win those FBS games when they were initially scheduled, so its not really fair to downplay those major upset wins after the fact. you'll have to read the thread from the beginning to understand the context. the upsets "were not" downplayed. i stated that a&t deserved a lot of credit for those wins and that no other hbcu during that time beat 3 fbs teams like we did. however, despite the fact that it was a brilliant accomplishment by a&t, that still doesn't change the fact that they were "lowly" fbs teams. granted, no other hbcu did it which says a lot about our program. but those were still "lowly" fbs teams...
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Post by Bornthrilla on May 21, 2020 21:10:25 GMT -5
But what was the context of bringing up the FBS wins in a thread about ND State?
I don't understand what one has to do with the other.
I would think a closer comp would be the win over Jacksonville State.
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Post by aggieblackie2 on May 21, 2020 21:16:56 GMT -5
OSA, PLEASE QUIT TALKING OUT OF THE SIDE OF YOUR MOUTH AND CONTRADICTING YOURSELF. AS BORNTHRILLA POINTED OUT THEY HAD 22 MORE SCHOLARSHIPS THAN US, PROBABLY BETTER FACILITIES AND MORE MONEY.
I DON'T GIVE A DAMN WHAT THEIR RECORDS WERE THOSE YEARS. THE ONLY ONE I CARED ABOUT WAS OURS. WE WERE ON THEIR SCHEDULES AND WE TOOK CARE OF BUSINESS OSA.
PLEASE QUIT DISRESPECTING OUR FOOTBALL PROGRAM, COACHES AND PLAYERS. THEY WORK HARD AND DESERVE THE RESPECT THAT IS DUE TO THEM.
IN YOUR RESPONSE OSA, YOU AIN'T GOT TO WRITE 14 PARAGRAPHS OF CONTRADICTING, SENSELESS STATEMENTS TO RESPOND TO ME. THANKS.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on May 22, 2020 10:55:21 GMT -5
But what was the context of bringing up the FBS wins in a thread about ND State? I don't understand what one has to do with the other. I would think a closer comp would be the win over Jacksonville State. you know how topics often go off on a tangent. well the following post is what started it and it spun off from there. just because i called kent state, unc charlotte, and ecu "lowly" fbs teams, my "groupie" accused me of putting a&t down. well ya'll can consider 1-11 and 3-9 teams "highly regarded" if ya want, but in my book any team who has a 1-11 or 3-9 record ain't a "highly regarded" team, period... Oleschool - Related to your comment about us losing to a 1-8 Morgan, that was because we weren't in it mentally, like you eluded to at the end of your comments. I expect we'll be well dialed in mentally when we play ndsu. man, ya'll act like i want us to lose to ndsu just because i'm being "honest". clearly i don't want us to lose and nothing would make me happier than for my beliefs to be wrong. but i just call things the way that i see it, not the way that i think folks want to hear. also, let's not forget, a lowly morgan state team beat us "2 years in a row", not just last year. that alone should "humble" some folk. however, you are correct that when our guys are "challenged" by perceived superior competition, they have a tendency to step up to the challenge and stay focused.
however, ndsu ain't no jacksonville state nor a lowly charlotte team nor a lowly ecu team. ain't nothing "lowly" about ndsu who hasn't loss a game in their home dome in several years. don't get me wrong, i do not expect us to embarrass ourselves against them but i also don't expect us to beat them in their home dome. now, i said the same thing about ecu just before we played them and thankfully i was "wrong". well hopefully i'm wrong again, but i'm very concerned about our qb situation though...
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