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Post by Bornthrilla on Nov 13, 2019 9:52:32 GMT -5
I think aggie2039's point is that the score shouldn't have mattered because we should have been up by about 3 touchdowns by then.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Nov 13, 2019 9:55:42 GMT -5
I think aggie2039's point is that the score shouldn't have mattered because we should have been up by about 3 touchdowns by then. I know, but the thread was about defense, this drive/play in particular. There is like a gazillion post on how bad our offense played. They drove 90 yards on us one drive.
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Post by aggiedad81 on Nov 13, 2019 10:18:18 GMT -5
our team plays down to teams that are below 500 excluding GHOE I've seen our team play up during big games I think our team played great against duke they came out hard and aggressive we had slow starts against lesser competitive teams such as Morgan state and Csu and it show everybody knows if they can throw against us they have a chance we make up with it in other aspects we have the potential to have one of the top offenses in the fcs if we use our weapons right I love baker I do but sometimes we need to use martin a little more
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Post by aggieforlife10 on Nov 14, 2019 12:36:16 GMT -5
Aggie Monster, Did you watch the entire play? The RB slipped out the backfield and the OLB covered the RB. How can the OLB drop back for the slant and cover the RB at the same time? The real question is what was the coverage? were we in quarters defense? does the OLB have the RB or the CB have that side. Seems like they ran the perfect play for our coverage? The "perfect" play is relative I guess. If it worked then it was the perfect play. My point is that McCain is not wrong in where he is lined up. If he plays closer and gets beat deeper the question will be, "well why didn't he just keep everything in front of him and the sticks?". Based on how it played out it was still the OLB's fault. Its 3rd and 10. Let that damn RB go into the flats for a split second while you cover the slant. He wasn't desciplined. If he catches it in the flats then you can break on him and you STILL have McCain there with everything in front of him to help you out. The OLB reacted to the RB route to soon given the down and distance. He did exactly what the offense expected a undisciplined LB to do. Just play for the sticks and tackle well. Thats the A&T defensive philosophy and the OLB didn't follow it.
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Post by aggieforlife10 on Nov 14, 2019 12:39:09 GMT -5
The "perfect" play is relative I guess. If it worked then it was the perfect play. My point is that McCain is not wrong in where he is lined up. If he plays closer and gets beat deeper the question will be, "well why didn't he just keep everything in front of him and the sticks?". Based on how it played out it was still the OLB's fault. Its 3rd and 10. Let that damn RB go into the flats for a split second while you cover the slant. He wasn't desciplined. If he catches it in the flats then you can break on him and you STILL have McCain there with everything in front of him to help you out. The OLB reacted to the RB route to soon given the down and distance. He did exactly what the offense expected a undisciplined LB to do. Just play for the sticks and tackle well. Thats the A&T defensive philosophy and the OLB didn't follow it. Your wrong. They where in man coverage with one high safety. This is not on the OLB. If you watch the play everybody is locked in on their man. Mac is playing the sticks but he has to drive on the ball and make the stop in front of the first down marker. Got to stop talking about stuff if you don’t know
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Post by Aggie Monster on Nov 14, 2019 13:53:37 GMT -5
Your wrong. They where in man coverage with one high safety. This is not on the OLB. If you watch the play everybody is locked in on their man. Mac is playing the sticks but he has to drive on the ball and make the stop in front of the first down marker. Got to stop talking about stuff if you don’t know Since you know I guess you are right. Still dont excuse the lack of communication between the 2. If he indeed does have man-lock the RB then he should be smart enough to know you still need to play for the first down on 3rd and 10 and not just fly up. But ultimately you are right. If it was man to man its Macs responsibility and he is waaay to far off. No way you can know that by just looking at the play blind, so assuming is what we do here on this board. Are you that LB or on the team?
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Post by Gator on Nov 14, 2019 15:37:50 GMT -5
Morgan was the best 1 - 7 team I've seen. They have size and speed, they picked the right time to put things together.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Nov 15, 2019 12:31:12 GMT -5
Here is a video of the play:
It's looks like Alex Fumbah was at weakside linebacker and he picked up the running back in the flat. That left the middle of the field wide open and of course, Morgan State connected on the slant.
Personally, I hate telling your DB to play to the sticks in that situation because it makes him wait there basically flat-footed until the WR makes his break.
I think if you have a talented corner, it is easier for them to backpedal and re-adjust the WR's route within the first five yards. Plus, you can position yourself better to cut off the inside leverage.
But that's just my opinion.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Nov 15, 2019 13:03:25 GMT -5
Here is a video of the play: It's looks like Alex Fumbah was at weakside linebacker and he picked up the running back in the flat. That left the middle of the field wide open and of course, Morgan State connected on the slant. Personally, I hate telling your DB to play to the sticks in that situation because it makes him wait there basically flat-footed until the WR makes his break. I think if you have a talented corner, it is easier for them to backpedal and re-adjust the WR's route within the first five yards. Plus, you can position yourself better to cut off the inside leverage. But that's just my opinion. Yeah, watching the video something was just off. The LB appears to be in man, like aggieforlife10 said. Looking at the still pic I had no clue, so I was wrong. The video clearly shows Mac was lined up too deep. That and he also didn't appear to be in man himself, which might have been what caused he problem. LB in man, CB in zone? I'm speculating again, but that couldn't have been the call right? For Mac to be in zone and the LB in man?
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Post by trues on Nov 15, 2019 14:31:01 GMT -5
Here is a video of the play: It's looks like Alex Fumbah was at weakside linebacker and he picked up the running back in the flat. That left the middle of the field wide open and of course, Morgan State connected on the slant. Personally, I hate telling your DB to play to the sticks in that situation because it makes him wait there basically flat-footed until the WR makes his break. I think if you have a talented corner, it is easier for them to backpedal and re-adjust the WR's route within the first five yards. Plus, you can position yourself better to cut off the inside leverage. But that's just my opinion. Yeah, watching the video something was just off. The LB appears to be in man, like aggieforlife10 said. Looking at the still pic I had no clue, so I was wrong. The video clearly shows Mac was lined up too deep. That and he also didn't appear to be in man himself, which might have been what caused he problem. LB in man, CB in zone? I'm speculating again, but that couldn't have been the call right? For Mac to be in zone and the LB in man? correct me if I am wrong but it seem like Mccain was going for the ball and not the tackle therefore the receiver just made a simple turn around move to get away from him. Plus he got there late as well.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Nov 15, 2019 15:38:25 GMT -5
Nah, I think he was going for the tackle; he just overran the play a little.
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