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Post by mthollyaggie98 on Jan 21, 2019 19:29:07 GMT -5
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jan 22, 2019 8:11:34 GMT -5
Great info.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jan 22, 2019 8:46:00 GMT -5
man, i'm utterly shocked that so many of our best players were only recruited by us. i mean, i didn't realize that leslie was one too!
omg, this says a lot about our coaching staffs ability to recognize talent that hardly anybody else does. i mean, there's a long list of some of our best players who fall into that category...
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Post by Aggie Monster on Jan 22, 2019 8:48:20 GMT -5
"A&T was my only offer" has become a theme for a lot of our best players. And we got some people that question our recruiting strategy!!!! Sit back and enjoy recruiting genius is what some of us need to do.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jan 22, 2019 9:06:02 GMT -5
"A&T was my only offer" has become a theme for a lot of our best players. And we got some people that question our recruiting strategy!!!! Sit back and enjoy recruiting genius is what some of us need to do. monster, you're 100% right. let's list some of our players who only got a d1 scholarship from nobody but us and you know who's at the top of the list; cohen parker eliajh bell leslie khris gardin all of these guys except leslie have either broke school records or became all americans, but all of them were all meac players, 2 got drafted to the nfl, and i'm sure i've left quite a few more off of this list that i can't think of at the moment...
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Post by Aggie Monster on Jan 22, 2019 9:35:04 GMT -5
"A&T was my only offer" has become a theme for a lot of our best players. And we got some people that question our recruiting strategy!!!! Sit back and enjoy recruiting genius is what some of us need to do. monster, you're 100% right. let's list some of our players who only got a d1 scholarship from nobody but us and you know who's at the top of the list; cohen parker eliajh bell leslie khris gardin all of these guys except leslie have either broke school records or became all americans, but all of them were all meac players, 2 got drafted to the nfl, and i'm sure i've left quite a few more off of this list that i can't think of at the moment... A couple of our senior d-linemen were only given a FCS offer by us.
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Post by DOOMS on Jan 22, 2019 9:46:15 GMT -5
Nice interview. And Leslie had the confidence to do it from Winston's rec center bathroom.
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Post by bigpeete1 on Jan 22, 2019 9:48:04 GMT -5
One of my favorite Aggies, Good Luck young man you have a bright future
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jan 22, 2019 9:58:06 GMT -5
"A&T was my only offer" has become a theme for a lot of our best players. And we got some people that question our recruiting strategy!!!! Sit back and enjoy recruiting genius is what some of us need to do. Double edged sword. I dont want our coaches to become so comfortable in their ability to identify undervalued talent that they subconsciously stop giving full effort on recruiting highly-coveted players. I think at the level our program is now, we can do both. Let's still find those diamonds in the rough ... but lets also steal a few jewels from the royal vault.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jan 22, 2019 10:01:13 GMT -5
hard to believe that leslie didn't get any d1 offers from nobody other than us. maybe it was the injury he spoke about in the video that scared coaches away. otherwise, even stevie wonder can see that this dude can flatout "ball". to me, he was our best "go to" receiver until bell got healthy, especially in the ecu game...
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Jan 22, 2019 10:25:18 GMT -5
I've never been one to read all of the recruiting websites. Just think about it for a second. Dudes are 16-17-18 years old. Some are taller, shorter, faster, slower, muscular, or fatter than others. But seriously, at such a young age, these dudes ARE FAR FROM BEING FINISHED PRODUCTS. Some come from places where football is an afterthought. Some come from places where the coaching they got in high school may not have been up to snuff. Some may have come from places where weight rooms/weight training programs were suboptimal or lacking altogether. Some get higher profiles because they know "the system."
I've just never been fixated on who's a 5-star, 4-star, 3-star or 2-star athlete on whatever recruiting website people go to to gather such information.....
On day 1, when you hit the college campus, I want to see a recruit who can learn on the fly. I want to see a recruit know how to block properly or can be taught easily on how to block properly. Can a wide receiver be taught the proper footwork on how to run a proper slant or corner route? Do they have the dedication or desire to be better? Do they study film and take criticism? Do they show up to practice on time? Do they show up to class on time? Are they good teammates and encourage their fellow team members to do better?
It may sound corny, but these are things a recruiting website can't tell you. You may hear about things, but until they hit a college campus, prognosticating how a future recruit will do is a crapshoot to me.
We've had some great coaches over this past decade who can identify talent, coach them up during the off-season, prepare them well during game weeks, and prepare them well for a potential spot at the next level. Again, I'm not one to dissect why someone's a 2-star vs a 5-star. I just want to see these dudes mentally and physically prepared to help this team win week in and week out.....as well as represent our school with class.
I don't know how the experts judge who has the best recruiting classes.......but the past 10 years have proven one thing - we know what we're doing. Whatever formula we have (which likely isn't the same recruiting formula Alabama, Clemson, UNC, or even ECU has)...I don't recommend changing much of anything. It's clearly working beyond anyone's initial expectations....
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Post by Aggie Monster on Jan 22, 2019 10:45:31 GMT -5
I've never been one to read all of the recruiting websites. Just think about it for a second. Dudes are 16-17-18 years old. Some are taller, shorter, faster, slower, muscular, or fatter than others. But seriously, at such a young age, these dudes ARE FAR FROM BEING FINISHED PRODUCTS. Some come from places where football is an afterthought. Some come from places where the coaching they got in high school may not have been up to snuff. Some may have come from places where weight rooms/weight training programs were suboptimal or lacking altogether. Some get higher profiles because they know "the system." I've just never been fixated on who's a 5-star, 4-star, 3-star or 2-star athlete on whatever recruiting website people go to to gather such information..... On day 1, when you hit the college campus, I want to see a recruit who can learn on the fly. I want to see a recruit know how to block properly or can be taught easily on how to block properly. Can a wide receiver be taught the proper footwork on how to run a proper slant or corner route? Do they have the dedication or desire to be better? Do they study film and take criticism? Do they show up to practice on time? Do they show up to class on time? Are they good teammates and encourage their fellow team members to do better? It may sound corny, but these are things a recruiting website can't tell you. You may hear about things, but until they hit a college campus, prognosticating how a future recruit will do will is a crapshoot to me. We've had some great coaches over this past decade who can identify talent, coach them up during the off-season, prepare them well during game weeks, and prepare them well for a potential spot at the next level. Again, I'm not one to dissect why someone's a 2-star vs a 5-star. I just want to see these dudes mentally and physically prepared to help this team win week in and week out.....as well as represent our school with class. I don't know how the experts judge who has the best recruiting classes.......but the past 10 years have proven one thing - we know what we're doing. Whatever formula we have (which likely isn't the same recruiting formula Alabama, Clemson, UNC, or even ECU have)...I don't recommend changing much of anything. It's clearly working beyond anyone's initial expectations.... Exactly, I'm going to say this and I hope EVERYONE on this board reads it. THIS IS WHERE STARS COME FROM...... You ready! It will blow your mind(well maybe not because its simple). Stars come from offers. That's it. You get more offers, you get more stars. A coach does homework and looks at you or "finds" you and they offer you. "Whoa, your now a 3 star athlete". 8 more FBS schools notice and offer, guess what? You are now a 4 star athlete. Have you ever seen a 4 star recruit with no offers? Nope. Stars come from offers. So if you can beat the bushes(like our staff) does and find talent that no one else has offered its not that you are ignoring star rankings. You are really doing your homework. All 3,4,5 star athletes will have other offers. All the recruiting sites do is count offers. That's it. As you accumulate 5 offers, then 8 offers, then 15 offers, then 20 offers and finally the “RATING EXPERTS” will slap a 3 star rating on you and one or two give you 4 stars!! Meanwhile, it took 8 offers for them to even take notice because the COLLEGES take notice first and then the stars come. So trust that your coaches know more than the other coaches and the websites to be able to find these gems. They find guys that lazy staffs didn't even look at. They don't rely on others to find their kids. Our staff is good, very good.
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Jan 22, 2019 11:12:22 GMT -5
I dont think Thrilla is disputing any of the above. I hope we do continue to find and development a Parker, Cohen, Lesslie, etc. The difference now is we got street credit on the field as well as developing players to excel at the next level.
That said we can offer a guy that has a offer from ECU, App State or even a local ACC school and provide that recruit qualified reasons why they need to be an Aggie. I get the concern by many that the recruiting staff takes the approach we have arrived and we misses out on those FBS recruits and miss all the hidden gem recruits cause we focused somewhere else..
It just has to be a health mix of both.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Jan 22, 2019 21:34:41 GMT -5
I dont think Thrilla is disputing any of the above. I hope we do continue to find and development a Parker, Cohen, Lesslie, etc. The difference now is we got street credit on the field as well as developing players to excel at the next level. That said we can offer a guy that has a offer from ECU, App State or even a local ACC school and provide that recruit qualified reasons why they need to be an Aggie. I get the concern by many that the recruiting staff takes the approach we have arrived and we misses out on those FBS recruits and miss all the hidden gem recruits cause we focused somewhere else.. It just has to be a health mix of both. We are offering those type guys. It also means that we shouldn't have to JUST because those schools did. Trust our coaches. Its OK to suggest a player you think is worthy or even b*tch about it if you want to, but dont create any notion that these coaches are slipping somehow or are not on the TIPPY TOP of their game when it comes to recruiting right now. 3 out of 4 Celebration Bowls says otherwise.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jan 23, 2019 10:54:01 GMT -5
also you've got to consider that its "easier" to sign a kid that no one else is recruiting, so you don't waste your time barking up the wrong tree in that case. whereas when you go after kids who errrrbody is recruiting, you're less likely to sign those kids and the recruiting time you invested in those kids could've been spent elsewhere.
so i don't know how they do it, but our coaches always seem to find "hidden talent" that nobody else wants and then we turn them into "all americans". hey, i agree that we should shoot for the "stars", but we get a much better return on our investment when we find "hidden talent"...
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